Jeff Sessions is not a social justice warrior ... but what is social justice?

[KingOrfeo]

Of course not you believe everything they have to say even though none of it is true. Starting with the fact that blacks are less likely to be shot than a white person in the same circumstances.

I repeat, what are you referring to? Please be specific as to statements and dates and sources.

 

[Conager]

As was the Kennedy family buying Chicago to buy the election, as was the hanging chads chess match buying the election, as was...etc.

Political dirty tricks to steal elections is nothing new and both sides do it.

The rest of it... is like retards in pubs arguing about who has more/better nukes.

I think a full discussion of Fermi's tits and the ratio of her tits to her ass (one example) would make a much better topic for the Political Forum Founding Fathers when they are on the GB .

Concur.

 

[Conager]

I repeat, what are you referring to? Please be specific as to statements and dates and sources.

or you could just shut the fuck up

 

[KingOrfeo]

or you could just shut the fuck up

Please be specific as to statements and dates and sources. Or else shut the fuck up.

 

[phrodeau]

Please be specific as to statements and dates and sources. Or else shut the fuck up.

It's because blacks are harder to see unless they smile or open their eyes.

 

[CNYCarol]

Social Justice is pure BS.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Social Justice is pure BS.

It is at any rate something a great many people much smarter than you take very seriously indeed.

 

[Conager]

It's because blacks are harder to see unless they smile or open their eyes.

How would you know? I'll ask you again do you personally interact with any blacks in the course of your day either personally or professionally?

Or are these things just convenient tropes for virtue signaling for you?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It is at any rate something a great many people much smarter than you take very seriously indeed.

A great many people much stupider than her take it very seriously too because the former know they can manipulate the latter for political power and the wealth that follows it.

They are worse than the Capitalists.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Then you were wrong. Ehrlichman plainly admitted it was declared on blacks.

Then why are most of the drug war victims WHITE????

There once was a racist fuck......that's all you've got.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

What I am stating is that Nixon invented the drug war to politically marginalize and criminalize black people. Reagan, not the most enlightened human being continued the drug war and racial divisiveness. Ford and Carter did nothing negative or positive. Bill Clinton felt that he needed to move the Dems left for the party to survive. He and Hilary were at least aware enough to realize that there are at least 2 classes of black people. Those who feel disenfranchised and resort to criminal behavior for a variety of reasons and middle class working people who use the Dems as an avenue of upward mobility. They might have genuinely thought that they were doing the right thing for upwardly mobile black people who live in dangerous neighborhoods. Since their crime bill, there has been additional awareness as result research and publication. Activists are now aware that intentionally criminalizing black people is a continuation of Jim Crow. Obama, tried to end the drug war but he does not have the necessary gravitas with the right-wing soldiers many of who wear police uniforms. In fact, any effort by Obama in this regard was responded to by doubling down on stupid.

Now, I’m going to ask you a question. I’m sure that you’re knowledgeable enough to know in comparison to other countries we have a staggering prison population. I am also going to assume that you’re aware the black and Hispanic people dis-proportionally make up that population. Do you believe that black and brown people are genetically predisposed to commit criminal behavior or do you believe that there are other reasons for them to dis-proportionally commit crimes?

Now, go change your diaper, you stink

 

[Conager]

There's another word I can't stand disenfranchised.

Life is not a franchise you buy into. We all have opportunities to take advantage of. some of us do better than others taking advantage of those opportunities many of us missed opportunities because we're not paying attention or because we don't have the drive or determination to capitalize on those opportunities we have life is what you make it and there is no amount of money that's ever going to make certain groups of people feel enfranchised.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Social Justice is pure BS.

The next time you see Jesus Christ, ask Him what happened to the just society He promised 2,000 years ago. P.E.T.

“Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets. (Matthew 7:12)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_society

The idea of a just society first gained modern attention when philosophers such as John Stuart Mill asked, "What is a 'just society'?" Their writings covered several different perspectives including allowing individuals to live their lives as long as they didn't infringe on the rights to others, to the idea that the resources of society should be distributed to all, including those most deserving first.

Social justice is the fair and just relation between the individual and society. This is measured by the explicit and tacit terms for the distribution of wealth, opportunities for personal activity and social privileges. In Western as well as in older Asian cultures, the concept of social justice has often referred to the process of ensuring that individuals fulfill their societal roles and receive what was their due from society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

 

[BotanyBoy]

The next time you see Jesus Christ, ask Him what happened to the just society He promised 2,000 years ago. P.E.T.

“Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets. (Matthew 7:12)

That's not social justice you fucking moron.

You even gave the REAL definition.....'give us free shit'

Social justice is the fair and just relation between the individual and society. This is measured by the explicit and tacit terms for the distribution of wealth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

 

[Conager]

That's not social justice you fucking moron.

It's often the very same liberals that denigrate religion of All Sorts who insist that we believe their version of the Bible that they don't believe in. Not aiming that specifically at HardRom because I think his comments on religion are fairly tempered and I think he's got a pretty broad base of knowledge about religions in general. I think not believing is perfectly reasonable and logical but one can do so without being disrespectful to those that do.

At no point did Jesus say take subsistance from one person at the threat of a Roman spear and give to another person.

Voting for plunder is NOT Christian charity.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Then why are most of the drug war victims WHITE????

Because it was also a war on hippies, and most hippies were white, and Nixon and Ehrlichman were quite capable of viewing non-hippie whites as acceptable collateral damage.

 

[KingOrfeo]

At no point did Jesus say take subsistance from one person at the threat of a Roman spear and give to another person.

He did say Caesar has a right to your taxes -- and, without reference to how Caesar plans to spend them.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Social justice is not charity. That is different. Social justice is receiving your due portion. And if deprived of your due portion, laws that will correct that.

Does a CEO really work harder than the poor slob on the production floor? What about the black kid who busts his ass to get out of the projects but encounters a boss who thinks that crime has a racial aspect and denies him a job, just in case? This is what social justice is about. Not welfare or handouts. Affirmative action to correct generations of discrimination, yes.

If you work hard, you deserve your share. If deprived of your share it is an injustice.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

What I am stating is that Nixon invented the drug war to politically marginalize and criminalize black people. Reagan, not the most enlightened human being continued the drug war and racial divisiveness. Ford and Carter did nothing negative or positive. Bill Clinton felt that he needed to move the Dems left for the party to survive. He and Hilary were at least aware enough to realize that there are at least 2 classes of black people. Those who feel disenfranchised and resort to criminal behavior for a variety of reasons and middle class working people who use the Dems as an avenue of upward mobility. They might have genuinely thought that they were doing the right thing for upwardly mobile black people who live in dangerous neighborhoods. Since their crime bill, there has been additional awareness as result research and publication. Activists are now aware that intentionally criminalizing black people is a continuation of Jim Crow. Obama, tried to end the drug war but he does not have the necessary gravitas with the right-wing soldiers many of who wear police uniforms. In fact, any effort by Obama in this regard was responded to by doubling down on stupid.

Now, I’m going to ask you a question. I’m sure that you’re knowledgeable enough to know in comparison to other countries we have a staggering prison population. I am also going to assume that you’re aware the black and Hispanic people dis-proportionally make up that population. Do you believe that black and brown people are genetically predisposed to commit criminal behavior or do you believe that there are other reasons for them to dis-proportionally commit crimes?

Now, go change your diaper, you stink

I do not believe that blacks or Hispanics are genetically disposed to commit criminal behavior. I don't believe anyone other than a true sociopath would be genetically predisposed to commit crime. Neither do I believe the disproportionate prison population is a direct function of a government campaign initiated by Richard Nixon and, least of all, by John Fucking Ehrlichman. I think the most casual research would show that the overwhelming majority of all races within our prison population come from dramatically disadvantaged backgrounds of poverty and/or dysfunctional families.

But like most bleeding heart liberals, you have the equation backwards. Because minorities disproportionately commit crime you conclude that the criminalization of behaviors such as robbery, assault and illegal drug use constitute a race war conducted by the criminal justice system.

I will grant you that 200 years of government sanctioned slavery in North America followed by another century of government imposed segregation is NOT an easy burden to overcome. But that particular crime does not and should not serve as an indictment against normal criminal sanctions generally as being tantamount to criminalization of black people.

It is simply a damnable lie which the more you get black people to believe it only serves to increase the likelihood that they, too, will become the next victims of it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I do not believe that blacks or Hispanics are genetically disposed to commit criminal behavior.

You mean all those lectures by Ishmael, AJ and Conager weren't true?

 

[BotanyBoy]

At no point did Jesus say take subsistance from one person at the threat of a Roman spear and give to another person.

Voting for plunder is NOT Christian charity.

They all have impossible time understanding the difference between consent and force.

Because it was also a war on hippies, and most hippies were white, and Nixon and Ehrlichman were quite capable of viewing non-hippie whites as acceptable collateral damage.

So what you're saying is that as an applied law, it wasn't a war on black people....but a war on drugs.....that just happened to be supported by a couple of racist the better part of 50 years ago?

Do I have that right???

Do you not see the profound fucking difference between the two and how intellectually dishonest it is to call the war on drugs a war on black people?

Or are we already backpedaling to maintain 'the narrative' ?

Only a social justice warrior would be dumb enough to think the war on drugs was about any other color than green.

 

[contrifan32]

Social justice is not charity. That is different. Social justice is receiving your due portion. And if deprived of your due portion, laws that will correct that.

Does a CEO really work harder than the poor slob on the production floor? What about the black kid who busts his ass to get out of the projects but encounters a boss who thinks that crime has a racial aspect and denies him a job, just in case? This is what social justice is about. Not welfare or handouts. Affirmative action to correct generations of discrimination, yes.

If you work hard, you deserve your share. If deprived of your share it is an injustice.

LOL, your share of what!?

 

[KingOrfeo]

So what you're saying is that as an applied law, it wasn't a war on black people....but a war on drugs.....

No, it was a war on black people and hippies. That's how and why it started. And it kept going because of cultural backlash and political/institutional inertia.

 

[water505]

Social justice is not charity. That is different. Social justice is receiving your due portion. And if deprived of your due portion, laws that will correct that.

Does a CEO really work harder than the poor slob on the production floor? What about the black kid who busts his ass to get out of the projects but encounters a boss who thinks that crime has a racial aspect and denies him a job, just in case? This is what social justice is about. Not welfare or handouts. Affirmative action to correct generations of discrimination, yes.

If you work hard, you deserve your share. If deprived of your share it is an injustice.

Pure Commie crapola. Exactly what is your "due portion" and "your share" and who sets the standards?

Supply and demand determines individual salaries, not how much physical effort a job requires. Slobs, as you describe them, are a dime a dozen. CEO's are not and demand a higher salary. If your slob wants to earn more money he has to make himself more valuable. Life isn't fair. Some people are more intelligent, have a stronger work ethic, and have innate skills others lack. Nothing is going to change that.

Following you logic a baseball player with a .350 BA who hits 50 home runs every year would be paid the same as someone who bats .125 and hits 2 home runs. After all, they both work hard, don't they?

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, it was a war on black people and hippies.

Then why are the out here locking up conservative hillbilly asian, white and latino pot farmers by truck load EVERY summer as well?

My neighbor is Hmong and libertarian as it gets, practical Anarchist, they canned him. He's not black or a hippie...how's that happen?

You have NO evidence that the war on drugs only applies to black people and hippies and decades of evidence that it is in fact not a war on black people and hippeis but a war on anyone fucking with big $$'s profit margins.

That's how and why it started.

No that's the opinion of a racist who was there when it was revived.

And it kept going because of cultural backlash and political/institutional inertia.

The war on drugs is all about the money.

From hundreds of billions in government funding to controlling the market. Big pharma doesn't want to share....they got their own private goon squad the FDA taking out the legal competition for them in courts, Democrats getting them more guaranteed funding and Republicans beating and jailing anyone who steps on their turf with their arsenal of LEA's. The US government is the biggest, most ruthless drug cartel that's ever existed bar none.

Total government control over an entire industry, the war on drugs is socialism at it's finest....just behind Jim Crow. Yaaaaaay government!