To clarify the success of the Obamaconomy

[Conager]

Let's just further clarify that this happened under a Republican controlled Senate, Republican controlled House, Republicans controlling 30 governor's offices (now 33), Republican controlling 30+ state legislatures and with a conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

But yeah, go ahead with your "under Obama" bullshit.

All true, but surely Obama gets credit for the raw unemployment benefit-seeking number going down and the stock market going up, correct?

 

[RobDownSouth]

How about allowing consumers to decide what they do and don't want included in their policy?

How about not forcing those with healthy lifestyles and good habits to subsidize those with no insurance and poor choices?

How about not penalizing people who have made employment choices that include generous health insurance?

You know- like it was before that abomination was passed without anyone who voted for it reading one word of it?

Yeah the old way was soooo much better, unhealthy kids would just shuffle off the mortal coil because their parents couldn't afford insurance.

And let's not forget you bragged about not insuring your family for 10+ years. One of the main reasons, one suspects, why your wife ditched you and took the kids and now lives with a guy who can be a better provider than you ever were.

But hai, you saved a lot of money though, right? Right?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

How about allowing consumers to decide what they do and don't want included in their policy?

Sure. And then what happens:

- When the market adjusts to make sick people unable to afford either the fees under a fee for service model or the premiums in a pre-ACA model?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

All true, but surely Obama gets credit for the raw unemployment benefit-seeking number going down and the stock market going up, correct?

How about we look at the public policies that directly impact each of those phenomenon and then look at to whom we owe the credit or blame based on the policies they advocate?

 

[RobDownSouth]

How about we look at the public policies that directly impact each of those phenomenon and then look at to whom we owe the credit or blame based on the policies they advocate?

Good luck with that. Connie just wants someone he can play "Blame Teh Negro President" with so he can curry favor with his mancrush AJ.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Let's just further clarify that this happened under a Republican controlled Senate, Republican controlled House, Republicans controlling 30 governor's offices (now 33), Republican controlling 30+ state legislatures and with a conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

But yeah, go ahead with your "under Obama" bullshit.

Hey...if every thing that happened in the god damn cosmos during 43's 8 years was 43's fault then O has to own the universe for his 8 too.

Bush MADE Hurricane Katrina hit Louzzzannah because he hates black people remember?

And you know damn well every boo boo and glass of spilled milk the planet over is going to be that daughter fucker Trump's fault under his admin.

That means O has to eat everything for his 8, it's been the (D) standard since Clinton.

Sure. And then what happens:

- When the market adjusts to make sick people unable to afford either the fees under a fee for service model or the premiums in a pre-ACA model?

Tough shit for them. Should have moved to a progressive paradise like Venezuela or Cuba.

 

[OldJourno]

I think Arizona has a very good governor in terms of helping the economy.
And then the voters pass a $15 minimum wage. Fucking idiots.

 

[jonpatato]

How about allowing consumers to decide what they do and don't want included in their policy?

How about not forcing those with healthy lifestyles and good habits to subsidize those with no insurance and poor choices?

How about not penalizing people who have made employment choices that include generous health insurance?

You know- like it was before that abomination was passed without anyone who voted for it reading one word of it?

I had a great health care plan at work. Obama care took it away. I agree with you 100%. Freedom to choose and open markets are best.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The reality of the Obama Economy is written into the results of the election which he inserted himself declaring that it was a referendum on his policies.

 

[Greypowerful]

The reality of the Obama Economy is written into the results of the election which he inserted himself declaring that it was a referendum on his policies.

I agree - the popular vote reflected that.
Too bad Billary and the DNC forgot how to win an electoral college vote.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I agree - the popular vote reflected that.
Too bad Billary and the DNC forgot how to win an electoral college vote.

The popular vote was won in the People's Republic of California...

 

[Greypowerful]

The popular vote was won in the People's Republic of California...

Achtung! You are TERMINADED!

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The popular vote was won in the People's Republic of California...

I love the dumfuckery in this statement. It precludes any need for thinking about the meaning of losing the popular vote by 3 million votes while simultaneously making it sound like #TheOrangutang won the popular vote in 49 other states.

You have to hand to to your thought-masters. They have you well trained.

 

[Conager]

I love the dumfuckery in this statement. It precludes any need for thinking about the meaning of losing the popular vote by 3 million votes while simultaneously making it sound like #TheOrangutang won the popular vote in 49 other states.

You have to hand to to your thought-masters. They have you well trained.

Hillary won the popular vote everywhere that ANYONE with a D after their name would have won for 169 votes. She also won the popular vote in States that lean left and modestly contested to capture 50 electoral college votes. Trump got 150 EC votes by actually campaigning for them. Hillary outspent him in every single one of those contested States.

Keep pretending that Californians that Trump wisely didn't spend any money to court means something. Running up the score only where the vote did not matter is no accomplishment.

Hillary run the day for influence vote. She outspent Trump 2 to 1, and lost.

When it comes to performance vs expectations, this loss was yuuuge for Hillary. She failed at the one thing that supposedly made Barack Hussein Obama qualified for an executive leadership position- the ability to manage a campaign.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I love the dumfuckery in this statement. It precludes any need for thinking about the meaning of losing the popular vote by 3 million votes while simultaneously making it sound like #TheOrangutang won the popular vote in 49 other states.

You have to hand to to your thought-masters. They have you well trained.

If he would have lost the popular vote in most of the other 49 states, Hillary would, indeed have won the election. She got big blue, but he peeled off midwest blue and turned it purple.

That's how our system works and why the total popular vote nationwide is a meaningless metric.

PERIOD!

 

[Adre]

I see the BroPatrol still feels the need to explain and defend Don's incredibly weak victory. Chin up boys, he really did win. Let it go.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

If he would have lost the popular vote in most of the other 49 states, Hillary would, indeed have won the election. She got big blue, but he peeled off midwest blue and turned it purple.

That's how our system works and why the total popular vote nationwide is a meaningless metric.

PERIOD!

So it was not just in the People's Republic of California (sic) where the popular vote was lost by #TheOrangutang?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So it was not just in the People's Republic of California (sic) where the popular vote was lost by #TheOrangutang?

It was not just the PRC, but they provided the majority of her total.

 

[Conager]

I see the BroPatrol still feels the need to explain and defend Don's incredibly weak victory. Chin up boys, he really did win. Let it go.

What exactly was weak about spending half as much money to beat Hillary 3-1 everywhere they competed?

 

[Conager]

It was not just the PRC, but they provided the majority of her total.

More than that California provided her entire popular vote margin. Without California she would have lost the popular vote in the remaining 49 states.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I see the BroPatrol still feels the need to explain and defend Don's incredibly weak victory. Chin up boys, he really did win. Let it go.

They simply don't understand why the other side won't come together in unity and sing Kumbaya as the Trump administration sets out to ruin America.

 

[RobDownSouth]

More than that California provided her entire popular vote margin. Without California she would have lost the popular vote in the remaining 49 states.

And if you disregard the votes of women, Negroes and Hispanics, Romney actually WON in 2012!

The problem with your selective interpretation, little sissy, is that you cannot pick and choose demographics you want.

#HeTriesSooooHard
#AvoidInconvenientFacts
#SchmottGuy

 

[Adre]

What exactly was weak about spending half as much money to beat Hillary 3-1 everywhere they competed?

There you go again picking and choosing states. There are 50 states to govern and he lost by 3 million votes in those states. That's a weak victory in everyone's book but yours and your BroPatrol. Don't be so fucking defensive, you won bro!

 

[Conager]

So it was not just in the People's Republic of California (sic) where the popular vote was lost by #TheOrangutang?

So, you want to glory in each and every one of her state-by-state victories but deny Trump his state-by-state victory even though he won far more States?

Someone is truly desperate to parse this ignominious defeat into something other than what it was, a complete rout.

 

[Conager]

There you go again picking and choosing states. There are 50 states to govern and he lost by 3 million votes in those states. That's a weak victory in everyone's book but yours and your BroPatrol. Don't be so fucking defensive, you won bro!

Don't be so defensive about one of the worst beatdowns in modern history. You had a shitty candidate there was no way she was going to win