The Trump "mandate."

Then how is it that the inroads made by the Republican Party across this nation's legislative bodies amounted to only an 80K delta between Trump's win and Clinton? Seems more a case of the base not motivated for the top of the ticket than they were downticket.

Hardly the stuff of a mandate.

Recall the GOP had a legion of Senators up for re-election. Your team expected to win the Senate and lots more. It didn't happen. Plus Trump used some pf Hillarys blue wall to build his own wall. You guys are the Stupid People.
 
So much effort from the deplorables to spin his win as a positive. Desperation at every turn.

Enjoy your fragile, temporary kingdom. We've got the popcorn ready for when it falls.

[/bait] :cool:


Enjoy your self imposed exile
 
LMAO! No he doesn't have a mandate.

You can't lose the popular vote and claim you have a mandate. It just doesn't work like that no matter how much you may want it to.

But watching you crave that legitimacy is fun. :D

Just a reminder Zip, we live in a Federal Republic, NOT a democracy. As such 'popular vote' is essentially meaningless, only the electoral vote counts. The Republic was purposely designed that way so that so that cockroach infested cities like New York and Los Angeles couldn't dictate to the rest of the nation.

You can change that by changing the Constitution. Interestingly enough the "Electoral College" component of the Constitution has been the subject of no less than 700 amendment proposals over the years. As can be seen, none of them have passed muster. And while I haven't researched each and every one of those proposals I suspect that all of them were put forth by the losers.

Given the fact that the popular vote is meaningless under our system of government, 30 out of 50 states IS a mandate and it's even more glaringly obvious when you consider that 98.1% of ALL the counties in the nation voted for Trump.

Ishmael
 
The mandate

Is all the

Senate

House

Governors

Legislative bodies

The Dumz lost under NIGGER
 
Shuttering some California defense contractor plants would toss their real estate market back into a tailspin.

It would be a good way to teach the Democrat Party the hard lesson they tried to teach the Republicans about elections, consequences and Obamacare...

;) ;)
 
Hillary gets the part that money is important, money lets you buy talent and endorsements and lock down ad time, but she's tone deaf about the essentials. Bill tried to set her straight and she wouldn't use his good counsel. She's the smartest person in California.

The first Nazi meeting Hitler attended had 7 people and $1.75 in its treasury. He left the meeting their president.

Yeah, we heard that about JEB! too...

Turns out, they were both too low energy to just get out and win votes which Trump did in a very cost-effective manner.

;) ;)

Even President Obama admitted that the other day; you cannot just campaign in your strongholds on the coasts and in the urban areas, you have to go out and let those people in other areas know that you care about them.


Hillary's health would not allow that.

~or~

Hillary's disdain for those people would not allow that.

Trump won with her voters, and that gives him the mandate to govern for them.
 
I acknowledge a mandate for the Republican party, and acknowledge that that mandate didn't extend to Trump's win by virtue of only an 80,000 vote win across three states.

I hope this makes the disconnect in the Republican voter's advocacy clearer for you to understand.

Yeah, I agree that your team won three games by less than 10 points, but that shouldn't put them in the playoffs since their opponents 'almost' beat them...


:cool:
 
It would be a good way to teach the Democrat Party the hard lesson they tried to teach the Republicans about elections, consequences and Obamacare...

;) ;)

The sad fact of the matter is that more and more of those defense contractors are moving their operations out of S. CA. But the crowd they bring with them are the of the same mind set when it comes to voting. Witness Colorado.

Even Los Alamos county voted for Hillary. An act that is roughly akin to slitting your own throat.

Ishmael
 
Q: What do you call the guy who finishes last in the med school graduating class?

A: Doctor.
 
Mandate, kicked ass, massive landslide....

None of those labels change the fact that Trump got the 11th lowest percentage of electoral votes in the history of the electoral college.

That really doesn't matter. He'll be the next president. Clinton won't. It's over, for God's sake.
 
Someone please inform the attention whore busybullshitter of this fact.

I'm more worried about MonotonyBoy. His whole life for the past year has been centered around the mantra "but...but...Hillary!". I'm not sure what he's gonna do now that his life ceases to have purpose.
 
I'm more worried about MonotonyBoy. His whole life for the past year has been centered around the mantra "but...but...Hillary!". I'm not sure what he's gonna do now that his life ceases to have purpose.

At least he gets out in the fresh air to tend to his pot plants. The other one's breathing very stale basement air.
 
The "county unit system" (i.e. one county=one vote) was declared unconstitutional back in 1962.

You really had to stretch for that one. :rolleyes:

It's seems the 98.1% is not rooted completely in fact either ...

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

The 52 of 57 counties Clinton purportedly won were in just ten states and the District of Columbia. Not mentioned in this list was the state of Alabama, where Clinton won 12 of the 67 counties, alreading bringing Clinton's total to 64 counties total. Arizona (where Clinton won four of 15 counties) was also omitted from the list. Clinton won eight counties in Arkansas, and 23 in the state of Colorado (which she won). She also took Delaware, despite winning one of three counties, and lost Florida with the exception of nine counties. And while Clinton lost Georgia, she did win over 30 of its 159 counties. Skipping to Texas, Clinton went home with 27 of its 254 counties.

Even if you count only 17 states (Breitbart's ten and an additional seven), Clinton won 164 counties in those 17. Even without accounting for the other 33 states, the claim that Trump won all but 57 of America's 3,141 counties appeared to be completely untrue.


Edited to add:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tbart-map-explained-how-trumps-dominance-acr/

And while Trump won more counties, the average number of voters in a Trump-backing county is 23,486, while the average number of voters in a Clinton county is 137,875.

I'm creating a new logical fallacy - Appeal to barns and old goats
 
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That really doesn't matter. He'll be the next president. Clinton won't. It's over, for God's sake.



Talk to your boys here -- or better yet, look in the goddam mirror. Who keeps starting threads about the now-6-weeks-past election?

The desperate arguments being put forth to explain away the popular vote embarrassment are amusing. "But Trump won more counties!" "But California doesn't actually count as a state any more!" Just like winning the lottery doesn't make you smart, winning a bunch of large states by a fraction of a percent doesn't make you a national majority party.

But please, go ahead and keep believing there's a mandate for privatizing Social Security, making abortion criminal, etc. Sounds like a great way to grow that 46 percent!
 
So he said:
Obama won a electoral mandate
Obama did not win a popular vote mandate
Trump won a electoral mandate


So which one of those statements do you disagree with?

Oh never mind. I don't care. You are a moron.


Eight years ago, the popular vote mattered enough for your chromosome donor to bring it up as a means of diminishing Obama's win, which I point out was by 10 million votes.

Now he's saying that anyone who brings up Trump's 2.8 million vote loss is just nitpicking.

I'm sure there are other RWCJ examples of similar hypocrisy, but I can't search Vette's and Miles's old posts anymore. And frankly, dumb old dad just keep making it easy by constantly passing along bullshit like the "98.1 percent of counties," which anyone just using basic common sense should instantly realize is ridiculous (does anyone really think Clinton could win fewer than 100 counties in the whole country and still win the popular vote?).


I'd suggest you should talk to Ish about his overdependence on fake news sources, but I think we both know he has other bad habits that are in somewhat more urgent need of attention.
 
Just a reminder Zip, we live in a Federal Republic, NOT a democracy. As such 'popular vote' is essentially meaningless, only the electoral vote counts. The Republic was purposely designed that way so that so that cockroach infested cities like New York and Los Angeles couldn't dictate to the rest of the nation.

You can change that by changing the Constitution. Interestingly enough the "Electoral College" component of the Constitution has been the subject of no less than 700 amendment proposals over the years. As can be seen, none of them have passed muster. And while I haven't researched each and every one of those proposals I suspect that all of them were put forth by the losers.

Given the fact that the popular vote is meaningless under our system of government, 30 out of 50 states IS a mandate and it's even more glaringly obvious when you consider that 98.1% of ALL the counties in the nation voted for Trump.

Ishmael

You're really stretching here.

A mandate represents the will of the people. If he didn't win the popular vote he doesn't have a mandate. It's really that simple.
 
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