Did you kow Bill Clinton is an electoral voter?

[GiaCat]

Imagine if his wife lost NY?

Story

 

[thør]

The Electoral College. That's where the pussy is. Gotta get there to grab some.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Imagine if his wife lost NY?

Story

You realize, do you not, that if his wife had lost New York, he would not have BEEN an elector?? The Electoral College would not have been a process he would have therefore been participating in.

 

[OldJourno]

Now that we've cleared that up, I've got to say I'm surprised there aren't more Electoral College-themed threads.
Or did we all come to the conclusion all this media hand wringing was a bit over-wrought?

 

[Liar]

I read that Bill Cosby two times before my brain synced up with my eyes.

This is me without caffeine.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Now that we've cleared that up, I've got to say I'm surprised there aren't more Electoral College-themed threads.
Or did we all come to the conclusion all this media hand wringing was a bit over-wrought?

Given the depths of people's ignorance on a vast range of subject matter, I would be hesitant to pass judgment on the specific motivations that cause them to wring their hands.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

So more switched their votes away from Hillary than from away from Trump?

Now that deserves a thread........

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

Did you kow Bill Clinton is an electoral voter?

The Constitution simply refers to him as an "Elector".

Did you know that the Constitution doesn't mention "Electoral College" in any way, shape, or form?

 

[nerfhearder]

The Constitution simply refers to him as an "Elector".

Did you know that the Constitution doesn't mention "Electoral College" in any way, shape, or form?

First you say it says they are called electors (which it does) then you say it's not mentioned in any way.

College in this sense is a process. It doesn't need to be mentioned.

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

The process of Electors voting for both the President and Vice President isn't simply "mentioned" in the Constitution, it is - in fact - constituted in detail.

The framers never referred to an "Electoral College" as a "process" either in their Convention deliberations or the Constitution itself; Hamilton never referred to an "Electoral College" as a "process" in any of his Federalist writings - although the framers and Hamilton painstakingly detailed the exact process of electing the President and Vice President.

"Electoral College" was fully alien to them as the constitutional process they created.

Amendent XII further describes the same, constitutional process, yet never mentions any "Electoral College", and neither does Amendment XXIII or Amendent XXIV, even though those two Amendments were ratified when the term "Electoral College" was already in widespread use.

Yet, try to find any reference today that doesn't dictate that the Constitution established the Electoral College in Article II, Section 1., or that Hamilton said this or that regarding the Electoral College, when - in fact - none of that is practically true.

My point isn't that the "Electoral College" doesn't exist. My point is that it is a post-Constitution creation.

 

[nerfhearder]

The process of Electors voting for both the President and Vice President isn't simply "mentioned" in the Constitution, it is - in fact - constituted in detail.

The framers never referred to an "Electoral College" as a "process" either in their Convention deliberations or the Constitution itself; Hamilton never referred to an "Electoral College" as a "process" in any of his Federalist writings - although the framers and Hamilton painstakingly detailed the exact process of electing the President and Vice President.

"Electoral College" was fully alien to them as the constitutional process they created.

Amendent XII further describes the same, constitutional process, yet never mentions any "Electoral College", and neither does Amendment XXIII or Amendent XXIV, even though those two Amendments were ratified when the term "Electoral College" was already in widespread use.

Yet, try to find any reference today that doesn't dictate that the Constitution established the Electoral College in Article II, Section 1., or that Hamilton said this or that regarding the Electoral College, when - in fact - none of that is practically true.

My point isn't that the "Electoral College" doesn't exist. My point is that it is a post-Constitution creation.

The constitution clearly lays out what electors are supposed to do. That is the "college." Although the word itself doesn't appear as far as I know, the process does. There simply isn't a need for that word to be used in the document since it's already spelled out pretty clearly.
Why say that the electors are supposed to do this and that and then say it again by using a particular word? It's pointless. Not to mention that using it or not using it doesn't change anything. We haven't stopped doing what we're supposed to do, we just use a word for it that they didn't.

 

[phrodeau]

Back when the Constitution was written, words meant entirely different things.

Such as "arms" and "we the people".

 

[Liar]

A "college" can simply mean a collection of people sharing a common purpose. It's just a fancy way of saying "the group of electors". Like a pride of lions or a gaggle of, I dunno, ducks?

Whether the phrase is used in this or that text means bupkus.

 

[Hypoxia]

Back when the Constitution was written, words meant entirely different things.

Such as "arms" and "we the people".

And "general welfare", "well-regulated militia", "establishment of religion", "probable cause", "impartial jury", "supreme Law of the Land", etc.

Meanwhile, Wikipedia sez:

Although the United States Constitution refers to "Electors" and "electors", neither the phrase "Electoral College" nor any other name is used to describe the electors collectively. It was not until the early 19th century the name "Electoral College" came into general usage as the collective designation for the electors selected to cast votes for president and vice president. The phrase was first written into federal law in 1845 and today the term appears in 3 U.S.C. § 4, in the section heading and in the text as "college of electors."

Thus the College of Electors is post-Constitutional, same as giving corporations (or embryos) the rights of personhood.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

The process of Electors voting for both the President and Vice President isn't simply "mentioned" in the Constitution, it is - in fact - constituted in detail.

The framers never referred to an "Electoral College" as a "process" either in their Convention deliberations or the Constitution itself; Hamilton never referred to an "Electoral College" as a "process" in any of his Federalist writings - although the framers and Hamilton painstakingly detailed the exact process of electing the President and Vice President.

"Electoral College" was fully alien to them as the constitutional process they created.

Amendent XII further describes the same, constitutional process, yet never mentions any "Electoral College", and neither does Amendment XXIII or Amendent XXIV, even though those two Amendments were ratified when the term "Electoral College" was already in widespread use.

Yet, try to find any reference today that doesn't dictate that the Constitution established the Electoral College in Article II, Section 1., or that Hamilton said this or that regarding the Electoral College, when - in fact - none of that is practically true.

My point isn't that the "Electoral College" doesn't exist. My point is that it is a post-Constitution creation.

Your "point" is demonstrably pointless since, as others have already pointed out, the nomenclature of an "Electoral College" did not alter the clearly proscribed Constitutional process of electing a President. Your observation of the absence of the phrase from the Constitution has no more relevance than the absence of the phrase "pocket veto" from the same document.

Educated people know how the process works, and they know it works independently of whatever popular label has been attached to it. People like yourself dance around with the most frivolous of tangential bullshit for whatever limp-biscuit-reasons God only knows.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Thus the College of Electors is post-Constitutional, same as giving corporations (or embryos) the rights of personhood.

You two mutants should room together and see if you could spawn a brand new mental disorder.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

I graduated from Electoral College and I'm tired of you people dragging my alma mata through the mud.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I graduated from Electoral College and I'm tired of you people dragging my alma mata through the mud.

Fly Farts and Hi-noxious were hoping to get in under the (lower) gi bill, but the radiology imaging reports came back negative.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Fly Farts and Hi-noxious were hoping to get in under the (lower) gi bill, but the radiology imaging reports came back negative.

I can dig that, man

 

[Lord Pmann]

Back when the Constitution was written, words meant entirely different things.

Such as "arms" and "we the people".

Don't forget freedom of speech.

 

[phrodeau]

Don't forget freedom of speech.

And everybody had European accents, except the natives.

 

[GiaCat]

You realize, do you not, that if his wife had lost New York, he would not have BEEN an elector?? The Electoral College would not have been a process he would have therefore been participating in.

I'm on a roll, don't confuse me with facts

 

[Conager]

And everybody had European accents, except the natives.

. . .prolly added extraneous 'U's all over the damned place.

 

[Hypoxia]

>> Do you know Bill Clinton is an electoral voter?

No. Hum a few bars and I'll fake it.