Democrats are Sooooo DUMB!

[JackLuis]

Nancy Pelosi: I don’t think Democrats want a new direction

Oh sure! The Democrats want the Same Old Shit and Nancy is going to give it to them.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Nancy, how did an unknown like Bernie get as far as he did if Democrats don't want a new direction?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nancy Pelosi: I don’t think Democrats want a new direction

Oh sure! The Democrats want the Same Old Shit and Nancy is going to give it to them.

Probably run HRC again in 2020, fucking morons.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Probably run HRC again in 2020, fucking morons.

IF HRC challenges Trump after he's had 4 years in office, she'll be sure to win. So would Vermin Supreme, for that matter.

 

[BotanyBoy]

IF HRC challenges Trump after he's had 4 years in office, she'll be sure to win. So would Vermin Supreme, for that matter.

LOL oh please I hope they make the same dumb fuck diehard partisan decision again......

The level of 'stupid fuck' dripping off that move would be legendary as would be the 3rd rejection of neoLib scum like Clinton.

 

[KingOrfeo]

LOL oh please I hope they make the same dumb fuck diehard partisan decision again......

The level of 'stupid fuck' dripping off that move would be legendary as would be the 3rd rejection of neoLib scum like Clinton.

I've got nothing good to say for neoliberalism, but after 4 years of Trump it's gonna start looking pretty damn appealing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I've got nothing good to say for neoliberalism, but after 4 years of Trump it's gonna start looking pretty damn appealing.

Trump so far as talk goes is a neoLiberal LOL

Anti free trade, loves huge gubbmint all up in everyones bidnizz, panders to the rich/hooks them up......

He's JUST LIKE Hillary Clinton, except he pretends to love the USA and doesn't hate white people.

And I hope he fucks you and the rest of the social justice crowd right up the ass so you get a taste of your wonderful big government and liberalism.

 

[JackLuis]

Trump so far as talk goes is a neoLiberal LOL

Anti free trade, loves huge gubbmint all up in everyones bidnizz, panders to the rich/hooks them up......

He's JUST LIKE Hillary Clinton, except he pretends to love the USA and doesn't hate white people.

And I hope he fucks you and the rest of the social justice crowd right up the ass so you get a taste of your wonderful big government and liberalism.

I don't think you can call Trump a neo-lib. I am quite sure his philosophy is "Gimme the Money and Fuck you plebs!"

As for Hillary running again, Oh Hell No! She lost twice and polls just above Congress so No, No, Not a fucking chance!

If the Dim's want a Woman in the race, there is a Congresswoman from Hawaii that could clean Trump clock and has no baggage to weigh her down.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't think you can call Trump a neo-lib. I am quite sure his philosophy is "Gimme the Money and Fuck you plebs!"

Kinda like Obama with the ACA, monsato protection act, moar war??




In behavior he's majority neoLib some neo-Con (his nationalist flare is about all) and hardly any actual conservatism/liberalism.

As for Hillary running again, Oh Hell No! She lost twice and polls just above Congress so No, No, Not a fucking chance!

If the Dim's want a Woman in the race, there is a Congresswoman from Hawaii that could clean Trump clock and has no baggage to weigh her down.

Her name is Tulsi Gabbard and yes she would be a MUCH better candidate than probably anyone else they would be willing to run. Democrats like her AND Republicans like her....she's well spoken and good looking....combat veteran....doesn't peddle identity politics/SJW/professional victimhood bullshit....is a capitalist, she would kill it.

I'd back her in a heartbeat over anything that's run in the past 20 years.

 

[JackLuis]

Kinda like Obama with the ACA hua??



Her name is Tulsi Gabbard and yes she would be a MUCH better candidate than probably anyone else they would be willing to run. Democrats like her AND Republicans like her....she's well spoken and good looking....combat veteran....capitalist, she would kill it.

Tulsi Gabbard would be much better than Hillary 3.0 and I'm quite sure she would not lead us into another fucking war to spread "Freedom for Oil and Mining Companies"

 

[BotanyBoy]

Tulsi Gabbard would be much better than Hillary 3.0 and I'm quite sure she would not lead us into another fucking war to spread "Freedom for Oil and Mining Companies"

It would go a long way to restore my faith in (D)'s but I think they will try to sink her in favor of a SJW/socialist like Warren, who will run a "Trump is racist and sexist!!!" campaign of fail.

 

[JackLuis]

It would go a long way to restore my faith in (D)'s but I think they will try to sink her in favor of a SJW/socialist like Warren, who will run a "Trump is racist and sexist!!!" campaign of fail.

I gave upon Warren when she didn't support Bernie, but sucked up to Killary.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Trump so far as talk goes is a neoLiberal LOL

Anti free trade . . .

Neoliberals are pro-free trade; that aspect of economic libertarianism is the single thing that defines them. That's why Bill negotiated NAFTA and Hillary supported the TPP, both of which Trump wants to scrap or drastically revise.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I gave upon Warren when she didn't support Bernie, but sucked up to Killary.

I think that was a strategic political decision, and not an unreasonable one in hindsight; we can say now that Bernie could have beaten Trump, but throughout the campaign Hillary really did look more electable.

 

[JackLuis]

I think that was a strategic political decision, and not an unreasonable one in hindsight; we can say now that Bernie could have beaten Trump, but throughout the campaign Hillary really did look more electable.

She didn't poll that way. Bernie beat Trump by 20-30%. Clinton was able to out poll Trump by less than 10% and she still lost.

Face it the DNC Establishment picked Hillary 2.0 and failed bigly, against a bullshit artist from the Big Apple. All that whining isn't going to beat the Republicans, it will take a candidate who can draw a constituency on his/her own merits. Just because Hillary was perhaps less evil did not cut it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Neoliberals are pro-free trade; that aspect of economic libertarianism is the single thing that defines them.

Then why are they all so much in favor of government control over trade among many other aspects of the economy?

They are about as libertarian economically as Trump is a social justice crusader.


I guess if what you say is true then I guess Trump is just a good ol' plain liberal.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think that was a strategic political decision, and not an unreasonable one in hindsight; we can say now that Bernie could have beaten Trump, but throughout the campaign Hillary really did look more electable.

Only if you view it from the ride or die for the DNC, Hillary at all costs!! crowds perspective.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Then why are they all so much in favor of government control over trade among many other aspects of the economy?

Because despite their globalizing neoliberalism they retain some residue of common sense, and know that a completely unregulated capitalist economy cannot thrive. You don't even need to be a Keynesian, let alone a Marxist, to understand that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because despite their globalizing neoliberalism they retain some residue of common sense, and know that a completely unregulated capitalist economy cannot thrive.

Sure it can, it did during one of the greatest wealth and advancement explosions in human history.

It's just not pretty for all the bleeding hearts and soccer moms out there so we use government force to sissify the economy so that everyone gets a gold star causing fuck tons of other problems that we now have today and chase with even more regulations which will need more regulation to fix and on and on and on.

You don't even need to be a Keynesian, let alone a Marxist, to understand that.

Like I said, he's a neoLiberal, he wants to control trade, most likely enrich himself and or the special interests that support him.

Not all that different from Clinton, or Obama.

Not to mention he is both socially and economically LEFT of Clinton in every way other than not bleeding for all the minorities and women who suffer extreme torture and complete denial of all rights or even basic human decency on a daily basis at the hands of the evil white male ( all of them) here in the USA.

Which clearly makes him a racist.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Sure it can, it did during one of the greatest wealth and advancement explosions in human history.

If you're thinking of the 19th Century, it was just full of heavy government involvement in the economy, from protective tariffs to railroad subsidies.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If you're thinking of the 19th Century, it was just full of heavy government involvement in the economy, from protective tariffs to railroad subsidies.

Involvement but not tons of anti commerce and corporate protective regulation, absolutely NOTHING compared to what we have today where we SWAT team lemonade stands and lawn boys.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Involvement but not tons of anti commerce and corporate protective regulation, absolutely NOTHING compared to what we have today where we SWAT team lemonade stands and lawn boys.

Sending in the Army or National Guard to break strikes, as was done in the Gilded Age, is some pretty heavy corporate protective regulation.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sending in the Army or National Guard to break strikes, as was done in the Gilded Age, is some pretty heavy corporate protective regulation.

It's not corporate protective regulation.

Limited licencing, public/environmental protection laws that have nothing to do with protecting the public or environment but make sure Monsanto keeps that 100% win rate in courts nation wide is corporate protective regulation.

Authorities showing up to keep the crybabies from destroying someone elses shit is not. That's called law and order.....civility.

The direct protecting of the private property and freedom of it's citizens and the national interest is an obligation of the government. I'd expect the same from the police if a bunch of mother fuckers from Oakland decided they were going to destroy or stop me from getting into my house because they live in a shithole and my place is nice, has a view and costs more than most of them will make in their entire lifetime.

You don't get to shut down a company or infringe on others rights just because you're not getting paid what you want or you failed at the great paper chase. That's savage 3rd world bullshit and should be shut down with extreme prejudice.

The compromise is liberalism, where you just vote on 'regulation' to steal the guys shit or cock block his ability to make more money than you...socialism.

 

[JackLuis]

Deals with the devil: Vulnerable Senate Democrats rush to slam anti-Donald Trump plans

While congressional Democrats were certainly slow to come to grips with Donald Trump’s election and therefore appeared hesitant to back the calls for resistance that flooded the streets in major American cities in the immediate aftermath, they’ve since embraced their role as the loyal opposition.But even as most Senate Democrats gear up for confirmation battles with a whole host of questionable Trump Cabinet picks, some of their Democratic colleagues are already willing to kowtow to the president-elect’s most fundamental decisions.

Incoming Senate Democratic minority leader Chuck Schumer recently backed away from his early willingness to work with the incoming Trump administration, opting instead to endorse a strategy of committed opposition.

“President-elect Trump promised that he was going to clean up the swamp,” Schumer told The New York Times this past weekend. “And a whole lot of his nominees have had their career in the swamp.” Just weeks earlier, the New York Democrat gathered stunned Senate Democrats by announcing, “When we can agree on issues, then we’re going to work with” Trump.

The problem for Democrats is that while a recent poll found that nearly two-thirds of Democratic voters want the party to “stand up” to Trump, “even if less gets done in Washington,” of the 25 Democrat senators up for re-election in 2018, 13 are from states that voted for Trump.

 

[Hard_Rom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Neoliberalism (neo-liberalism) refers primarily to the 20th century resurgence of 19th century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism. These include extensive economic liberalization policies such as privatization, fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy. The implementation of neoliberal policies and the acceptance of neoliberal economic theories in the 1970s are seen by some academics as the root of financialization, with the financial crisis of 2007–08 as one of the ultimate results.