Schumer says GOP will declare war on seniors next year

[Pakalea345]

More lies, fear mongering, and divisiveness. It's what Democrats do best. Before you know it they'll have a Muslim racist running the DNC. Oh....wait.

Keep it up, assholes. This is what cost you the election.

Lies and fear mongering are the tools of republicans.

Death Panels!

Obama was born in Kenya!

et al...

 

[hashtag4]

More lies, fear mongering, and divisiveness. It's what Democrats do best. Before you know it they'll have a Muslim racist running the DNC. Oh....wait.

Keep it up, assholes. This is what cost you the election.

Exactly. Add to that the fact that they sold themselves to the highest bidder (corporate interests).

And that applies to the increase in popularity of the nationalistic parties in Europe too.

They fail to realise that a lot of those who are now leaning towards such parties are in fact "Lefties" to their true core, and that their vote was driven by their perception of "the lesser of two evils" as opposed to them being true racists.
Will it get even worse because of that? Who knows…

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Death Panels was one of my all time favorites.

Have to hand it to them - they do know how to dumb it down to great effect.

Where did the ebola go?

 

[phrodeau]

Donald Trump must be a Democrat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g5G9Owvnx8

 

[BotanyBoy]

Lies and fear mongering are the tools of republicans.

It's not just the Republicans who do it you partisan (D)ick sucker......

Donald Trump must be a Democrat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g5G9Owvnx8

Conservatives have been saying that since the get go.....

Let the rest of the (D)'s know, and thank the republicans for electing a democrat in order to stop the neoLib globalist.

 

[Liar]

LOL how will I be hurt personally by getting to keep more of my money?

^^^

Thinks he'll get to keep more of his money.

 

[BotanyBoy]

^^^

Thinks he'll get to keep more of his money.

Are you saying Trump will raise my taxes?

That's not what I have heard or what his opposition is crying about.

Opposition who wants to take more of my money.

 

[about_average]

They are politicized because they aren't really essential, they are luxury services.

Healthcare is pretty essential to stay alive for a very significant portion of the population, nearly 100% in fact.

It's also good for the economy. Fewer people missing work because they are ill and so more productivity, contribution to the GDP and tax base.
Preventative healthcare is even better for the economy.

 

[Christobal]

Death Panels was one of my all time favorites.

Have to hand it to them - they do know how to dumb it down to great effect.

Where did the ebola go?

I have the Ebola and Trump is sending me to your house. Any Trump desenters are next on his list. We are coming for you.

 

[Conager]

Healthcare is pretty essential to stay alive for a very significant portion of the population, nearly 100% in fact.

It's also good for the economy. Fewer people missing work because they are ill and so more productivity, contribution to the GDP and tax base.
Preventative healthcare is even better for the economy.

Ah, so that explains the mighty surge of growth that occurred alongside obamacare's implementation.

 

[water505]

Healthcare is pretty essential to stay alive for a very significant portion of the population, nearly 100% in fact.

It's also good for the economy. Fewer people missing work because they are ill and so more productivity, contribution to the GDP and tax base.
Preventative healthcare is even better for the economy.

Not so much.

This inconvenient truth comes, once again, from the CBO. In an Aug. 7 letter to Rep. Nathan Deal, CBO Director Doug Elmendorf writes: "Researchers who have examined the effects of preventive care generally find that the added costs of widespread use of preventive services tend to exceed the savings from averted illness."

Do you know what the CBO is?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Healthcare is pretty essential to stay alive for a very significant portion of the population, nearly 100% in fact.

Funny how not only the human species has made it this far with 100% of everyone that ever was dying in the end....

It's also good for the economy. Fewer people missing work because they are ill and so more productivity, contribution to the GDP and tax base.
Preventative healthcare is even better for the economy.

Oh I agree, UHC is preferable to the absolute fucking bullshit both R's and D's have continued to shovel onto the American population for decades now.

And it's good in certain respects for the economy but only if you keep it honest.

800 dollar aspirins, 600 dollar epi pens and 15,000 dollar inhalers because 'regulation' however tend to to fuck that right up the ass.... dry. I end up paying more and getting less. Just like everything else the government 'regulates'. So until our government grows the fuck up and stops acting like a bunch of mafia thugs and petulant children locked in an eternal pissing contest and starts serving the public interest it's my humble opinion that the best course of action is to take the corrupt and mortally wounded piece of shit out back and put a bullet in it's head.

 

[about_average]

Funny how not only the human species has made it this far....

I didn't say it was essential for the species to survive.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people have died over the course of human history. Probably a lot from illness even.

Oh I agree, UHC is preferable to the absolute fucking bullshit both R's and D's have continued to shovel onto the American population for decades now.

And it's good in certain respects for the economy but only if you keep it honest.

800 dollar aspirins, 600 dollar epi pens and 15,000 dollar inhalers because 'regulation' however tend to to fuck that right up the ass.... dry. I end up paying more and getting less. Just like everything else the government 'regulates'.

No argument here.
The original ACA was pretty close to UHC, or at least good first steps. The boon for insurance companies was insisted on by the republicans in order to pass it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I didn't say it was essential for the species to survive.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people have died over the course of human history. Probably a lot from illness even.

That's my point, HC services are not essential, they are a luxury.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No argument here.
The original ACA was pretty close to UHC, or at least good first steps. The boon for insurance companies was insisted on by the republicans in order to pass it.

Considering the (D)'s absolutely bent the (R)'s over and shoved ACA up their ass kicking and screaming the whole way I simply refuse to believe (D)'s had nothing to do with it being whored out....especially to largely (D) supporting special interests. The math on that simply does not add up at all.

I think that's delusional bullshit (D)'s push and their true followers push so they can keep pretending (D)'s are a lot more progressive and not at all the NeoLib corporate whores they actually are.

 

[sr71plt]

^^^

Thinks he'll get to keep more of his money.

Still an idiot after all of these months listening to Trump's lies.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Still an idiot after all of these months listening to Trump's lies.

So then trump and the GOP are raising taxes??

Cite?

I never saw anything about this new development....

 

[about_average]

That's my point, HC services are not essential, they are a luxury.

No, they are essential if individuals want to live during many illnesses and after many accidents.

Even if you completely ignore the negative impact to productivity of no/poor healthcare.

 

[water505]

Still an idiot after all of these months listening to Trump's lies.

More of the same...keep up the hate!

 

[about_average]

Not so much.

This inconvenient truth comes, once again, from the CBO. In an Aug. 7 letter to Rep. Nathan Deal, CBO Director Doug Elmendorf writes: "Researchers who have examined the effects of preventive care generally find that the added costs of widespread use of preventive services tend to exceed the savings from averted illness."

Do you know what the CBO is?

Yes, I do.

Do you know what it means to take a single sentence quote out of a 7 page single spaced letter as some sort of proof for an argument?

 

[about_average]

Considering the (D)'s absolutely bent the (R)'s over and shoved ACA up their ass kicking and screaming the whole way I simply refuse to believe (D)'s had nothing to do with it being whored out....especially to largely (D) supporting special interests. The math on that simply does not add up at all.

Of course they did. They should have ignored the R BS and developed a good policy.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, they are essential if individuals want to live during many illnesses and after many accidents.

If they want it they can go buy it.

It's not an essential service to keep the USA running tip top.

It's not like sanitation, water, electricity....the internet is more critically essential to the national interest than HC.

Even if you completely ignore the negative impact to productivity of no/poor healthcare.

We made it all the way to 2010....the most powerful and richest nation that has EVER existed, still the most economically, militarily and technologically advanced country on the planet.

We did shit 50 years ago most people today still can't touch.

And we did it all without nationalized HC.

I'm not saying a properly set up nationalized HC system is a bad thing. Much like some other public services the positives can be a damn good value if you set it up to keep the money grubbers in check.

But it's not essential from the perspective of government services, national security or common welfare.

Shit the only reason it's on the Feds radar in the first place is because that socialist fuck Reagan fucked up the whole god damn industry by nationalizing ER's without any way to pay for it.

If they had just stayed the fuck out of it and let the states do their things shit would be better. California could be like Venezuela or Cuba and Texas could let poor people die in the streets and everyone gets what they want, problems solved.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They should have ignored the R BS and developed a good policy.

If they had, Trump would not be in office and and (R)'s wouldn't own the rest of the government.

But turns out more than enough (D)'s are every bit the corporate whores their republican counterparts are and so the pendulum swings.

Trump and the GOP have a truly golden opportunity, if they fuck it up which is a distinct possibility then (D)'s will get another shot soon that they will more than likely totally fuck up again as well.