Just When You Think You Have Heard It All!

[FGB]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/212...5_1480310420_8820c9af24b67ae4f27950d698794d5b

 

[Ms_Ann]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/4qzhBCjjK3z6VxuWX5DY-qQez3X1yWQgfvM66wfsdL5AWdvNh69mt0L8RSB6StA6lbJGvsJF8mVt8I26VHuklg=w426-h320-n

 

[Aquagal]

I heard it all after I learned someone bought a used Sybian.

 

[pollynova]

I heard it all after I learned someone bought a used Sybian.

Is it like buying a used car? Can you get it them certified?

 

[domroger]

The Sun ,well known for truth and accuracy (sarcasm) .

 

[hashtag4]

There's plenty of evidence that suggests the possibility of "life after death", so to speak.
And I'm not referring to charlatans or nutcases. Nurses or doctors who interviewed patients who were either resuscitated, or who went through near dath experiences, and other reliable persons.

This, for example:
Famous Cardiac Surgeon's Stories of Near Death Experiences in Surgery
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1oDuvQR08

That physicist is just trying to prove or explain what so many have described.

 

[Lancecastor]

We have but five senses.

Lots of animals can see better, hear better, etc than humans.

So humans arent particularly sensitive.

What makes anyone think we know everything?

 

[Ishmael]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/212...5_1480310420_8820c9af24b67ae4f27950d698794d5b

It must be true, look who wrote the article.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

A dead guy?

 

[Ishmael]

A dead guy?

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

 

[phrodeau]

The pathway to Heaven is a paved culvert.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/nintchdbpict000280233394.jpg?w=720&strip=all

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.historicmysteries.com/the-21-gram-soul-theory/

In the company of four other doctors, Dr. MacDougall carefully measured the weight of his first patient prior to his death. Once the patient died, an interesting event occurred.

Suddenly, coincident with death, the beam end dropped with an audible stroke hitting against the lower limiting bar and remaining there with no rebound. The loss was ascertained to be three-fourths of an ounce.
Dr. Duncan MacDougall

The experiment continued on the next patient with the same results. Dr. MacDougall felt he was on to something extraordinary. A quote from the 11 March 1907 New York Times article captures the historic moment:

“ The instant life ceased the opposite scale pan fell with a suddenness that was astonishing – as if something had been suddenly lifted from the body. Immediately all the usual deductions were made for physical loss of weight, and it was discovered that there was still a full ounce of weight unaccounted for”.

All five doctors took their own measurements and compared their results. Not all the patients lost the same weight, but they did lose something that could not be accounted for.

 

[Lancecastor]

If you've ever watched people die, there is something about that moment.

Perhaps some of the Nurses here might be able to articulate it better.

 

[hashtag4]

One only needs to call you jokers if they want to ruin a potentially good thread.

The quoted source might be the equivalent of the Onion, but do you know that Roger Penrose is a world renown mathematician and physicist? And that this particular theory is supported by other reputable physicists, one of them being a Nobel prize winner?

 

[RoryN]

If you've ever watched people die, there is something about that moment.

Yeah.

Sometimes, they fart.

 

[nerfhearder]

If you've ever watched people die, there is something about that moment.

Perhaps some of the Nurses here might be able to articulate it better.

I don't believe for a second that they have any proof of a soul but I do agree that when a person dies there is something about that moment. Something that is there then isn't.
Lot of people agree with that, lots don't. Even lots of religious people don't agree with it but it's something I've noticed from my own point of view. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll find out pretty quickly after that massive stroke I'll have at age 145 while getting a blowjob from a 120 year old Jennifer Lawrence who will have become my personal sex slave later in life.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If you've ever watched people die, there is something about that moment.

Perhaps some of the Nurses here might be able to articulate it better.

Old news. From way back in 1990....

 

[water505]

I don't believe for a second that they have any proof of a soul but I do agree that when a person dies there is something about that moment. Something that is there then isn't.
Lot of people agree with that, lots don't. Even lots of religious people don't agree with it but it's something I've noticed from my own point of view. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll find out pretty quickly after that massive stroke I'll have at age 145 while getting a blowjob from a 120 year old Jennifer Lawrence who will have become my personal sex slave later in life.

At least her teeth won't get in the way.

 

[hashtag4]

Most people of my/ our age dealt with death. Be it a relative, a friend, or a remote acquaintance. So I'm no special snowflake.

But I remember how the death one of my colleagues affected me (we weren't close, but I identified with that person in certain ways).

The shock of the news made me experience for a few moments and for the first/ only time in my life something that professionals might call depersonalization or derealization (feeling abrupty separated from one's body/ environment).

I'm certain that in other contexts (people who go through significant stress or people with mental health problems) all the psychological explanations and theories apply.
But in my case, notwhitstanding it's psychological trigger, my brief experience was on a different plane, a physical sort of experience or disembodiment.

 

[Pakalea345]

Most people of my/ our age dealt with death. Be it a relative, a friend, or a remote acquaintance. So I'm no special snowflake.

But I remember how the death one of my colleagues affected me (we weren't close, but I identified with that person in certain ways).

The shock of the news made me experience for a few moments and for the first/ only time in my life something that professionals might call depersonalization or derealization (feeling abrupty separated from one's body/ environment).

I'm certain that in other contexts (people who go through significant stress or people with mental health problems) all the psychological explanations and theories apply.
But in my case, notwhitstanding it's psychological trigger, my brief experience was on a different plane, a physical sort of experience or disembodiment.

Been drinking paki liqueurs again, flaky?

 

[hashtag4]

Been drinking paki liqueurs again, flaky?

You're wrong, Rob.

I'm not making things up in order 'to look interesting' or 'to stand out'.
Because I acknowledge the fact that at the moment, my life is ordinary-mediocre and boring. Would I be posting 24/7 on Lit, if my life was interesting and exciting?

But that Did happen to me, and I'm trying to find out or connect with anyone else who went (or who know anyone who did) through similar experiences.

 

[hashtag4]

It's highly probable that there Is something that transcends our existence. How can one be so certain that there isn't? Where's the proof for such nihilistic views?

As I said, I don't believe in a personal God or in all the populist religious stuff.
But more and more scientists (doctors, nurses who've been around death or physicists and mathematicians) are starting to align themselves to Einstein's belief in an ordered Universe as opposed to random chaos; a belief in a pantheistic God, so to speak.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If you've ever watched people die, there is something about that moment.

Perhaps some of the Nurses here might be able to articulate it better.

It's the reminder.....the reminder that someday it will be you laying there bleeding out or waiting for some disease to finally snatch that last breath from your ass.

Yeah.

Sometimes, they fart.

...or fill their pants.

Especially if you shot them a couple times, people tend to shit themselves when you put holes in them or tear a limb off.

 

[hashtag4]

Since we're born, we vacillate between those two inherent tendencies which we all harbour to different degrees:
- to feel interconnected and part of a whole (other people or the environment in which we are embedded)
- or to assert our uniquenness and independence.
We might mature and integrate those two tendencies as we age, but the dance never goes away.
But as they age, a lot of people start to realize that we're part of a bigger picture that transcends all of that. Not as in a personal God, but neither as in random chaos