Marine Le Pen

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Marine Le Pen is another Putin loving "conservative" with a message that sounds a lot like The Orangutang.
 
The way she is telling the story and with The National Front having some local election victories it is looking like:

BREXIT => THE ORANGUTANG => LE PEN
 
It is possible that she could become President of France.

The French parties of Left and Right had to work together to stop her winning last time.

She makes Nigel Farage and Donald Trump seem paragons of compromise and democracy.
 
Super. So if she and The Orangutang align with Putin who is the bad guy?

China?

ISIS?

Scary boogymen that are not white and god-fearing?
 
It is possible that she could become President of France.

The French parties of Left and Right had to work together to stop her winning last time.

She makes Nigel Farage and Donald Trump seem paragons of compromise and democracy.

Come on Og, she's not half as bad as her Dad.;)

More seriously though, the French establishment, either of the left or right has shown conclusively that neither has the gumption to make the structural changes that France needs.
 
The "orangutang" crap isn't cool. When the Obamas get compared to monkeys, it's usually by racists.
 
Come on Og, she's not half as bad as her Dad.;)

More seriously though, the French establishment, either of the left or right has shown conclusively that neither has the gumption to make the structural changes that France needs.

The problem with Marine is that she seems better than her Dad, but she still has very extreme policies.

She could win because the other major parties are such fuck-ups.
 
Thus winning today's award for unintentional irony due to a complete lack of self-awareness.

Congradulations!

Do you have anything to say on the actual issue?

Of course not. It's purely personal abuse.

Irony indeed. Wanker.
 
Do you have anything to say on the actual issue?

Of course not. It's purely personal abuse.

Irony indeed. Wanker.
Do you have anything to say ever?
Based on your posts so far, not so much.

Personal abuse is something with which you apparently have a love/hate relationship. You're more than happy to dish it out, but while you seem to take it poorly, you still crave the attention.

You're welcome.
 
Do you have anything to say ever?
Based on your posts so far, not so much.

Maybe you're just so conditioned by American capitalist propaganda that anything that doesn't conform to the lies doesn't register in your tiny little brain.

Because I don't kowtow to you for the geographical accident of your birth you appear to be offended.

Well fuck you Captain America, fuck your capitalist overlords and fuck your system.

You're a racist, sexist prick.
 
Maybe you're just so conditioned by American capitalist propaganda that anything that doesn't conform to the lies doesn't register in your tiny little brain.

Because I don't kowtow to you for the geographical accident of your birth you appear to be offended.

Well fuck you Captain America, fuck your capitalist overlords and fuck your system.

You're a racist, sexist prick.

Or maybe your responses generally match the one you've just given.

Here, this may help:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/59/cc/38/59cc3806e81fcdc82e54acd7e78ebe99.jpg
 
You're as childish as the Russophobe OP. Given your racism,I have no doubt that you agree with its racist sentiment.

Good to see America hasn't grown out of the child like McCarthy era thinking.


OOOOOOOOOOoooooooh scary Russia.

Americans must be the most terrified population in human history.

Utterly pathetic.
Poor underoos. So easily triggered.

It must be very difficult for you to have to leave your safe space.

Have a Self Esteem Trophy, special little snowflake:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/95/30/84/953084492128b7277b71a8e7f0228812.jpg
 
This thread is about Marine Le Pen, so far there are some 15 responses. She has been variously described as scary, dangerous, nasty, and extreme, without one single example to support those opinions. Liberal opinion should quit name calling and take more notice of what she actually plans to do.

The ambitions of both her left and right wing rivals are limited to aralditing their backsides to the throne of power and inserting their snouts in the trough as deep as they can. Sarkozy and Hollande the former and current Presidents were hopeless failures from right and left respectively. Juppe the current favourite is a convicted criminal.

Based on any rational analysis rather than mere name calling Le Pen has a fair chance and is the only candidate campaigning for change. If she could get France out of the Euro it would trigger the most important political changes in Europe since 1945. I hope she does it, though the Italians could well get in first.
 
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Based on any rational analysis rather than mere name calling Le Pen has a fair chance and is the only candidate campaigning for change. If she could get France out of the Euro it would trigger the most important political changes in Europe since 1945. I hope she does it, though the Italians could well get in first.

You are right that Marine Le Pen has a fair chance. Currently she is the most likely candidate to win because the other parties have poor candidates and internal divisions.

Whether, as President, she could do what her party wants to do? That is more problematic. Unless she does a Brexit and takes France out of the EU many of her policies cannot be implemented because they would require treaty change.

It is far less likely that the French electorate would vote to leave the EU. Unlike the UK, many European countries see the EU as a guarantor of European peace, and if President-elect Trump reduces the US's commitment to NATO the desire for collective protection against outsiders and internal divisions would strengthen the perceived need for EU.
 
This thread is about Marine Le Pen, so far there are some 15 responses. She has been variously described as scary, dangerous, nasty, and extreme, without one single example to support those opinions. Liberal opinion should quit name calling and take more notice of what she actually plans to do.

The ambitions of both her left and right wing rivals are limited to aralditing their backsides to the throne of power and inserting their snouts in the trough as deep as they can. Sarkozy and Hollande the former and current Presidents were hopeless failures from right and left respectively. Juppe the current favourite is a convicted criminal.

Based on any rational analysis rather than mere name calling Le Pen has a fair chance and is the only candidate campaigning for change. If she could get France out of the Euro it would trigger the most important political changes in Europe since 1945. I hope she does it, though the Italians could well get in first.

That would be worth it on its own.

The euro is a disaster that should never have been born.

The French 'Socialists' are the archetypical neoliberal-pretending-to-be-leftists bunch of clowns.
 
Maybe you're just so conditioned by American capitalist propaganda

Which would be?????

Individual rights??

Self determination???

The freedom to engage in commerce without the government dictating the terms??

Yea....such horrible stuff. :rolleyes:

You're a racist, sexist prick.

The foundation of lefty arguments.....just call them buzz word names. :D
 
It is far less likely that the French electorate would vote to leave the EU. Unlike the UK, many European countries see the EU as a guarantor of European peace, and if President-elect Trump reduces the US's commitment to NATO the desire for collective protection against outsiders and internal divisions would strengthen the perceived need for EU.

It occurs to me that if the U.S. pulls out of NATO, NATO and the EU could be merged -- that is, NATO would become simply the EU's military arm.
 
The French 'Socialists' are the archetypical neoliberal-pretending-to-be-leftists bunch of clowns.

What political party now existing, in any country, would you consider a genuine socialist party, one you could join with enthusiasm? Any examples?
 
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