I'm a PC SJW

[LadyVer]

And damn proud of it too!

Liberal!

Progressive!

And a law and order type.

It's my understanding that the first thing fascist leaders do is get rid of liberalism and liberals. Could you expound on that?

 

[underguy1]

It's my understanding that the first thing fascist leaders do is get rid of liberalism and liberals. Could you expound on that?

Idiot. They get rid of leftists i.e. socialists. Not liberals. Liberals are easily bribed to go with the programme.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Fascism evolves from Socialist/Communist SJW, if we are to use that term, philosophy, the philosophy of the classes and the equitable distribution of the wealth of a nation and thus it ends in absurdities like the idea that you may own the means of production, but we dictate how you will employ your Capital. We have taken the name "Socialist" because Socialism has evolved to mean educated and elevated as we retreat from meritocracy where the "Liberal" intellectual does not have the standing he desires; that lofty perch is best achieved with an aristocracy, even if not one of birthright.

 

[Hard_Rom]

It's my understanding that the first thing fascist leaders do is get rid of liberalism and liberals. Could you expound on that?

The Nazis had a Black Book of those singled out for arrest and execution if they succeeded in invading Britain. I was amazed to see how many feminists were on the list. Fascist apparently live in fear of feminists. Universities, newspapers and Freemasons were also mentioned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book

Nancy Astor, Viscountess Astor, American-born English socialite
Violet Bonham Carter, anti-fascist liberal politician. Referred to as "an Encirclement lady politician"
Vera Brittain, feminist writer and pacifist
Margery Corbett Ashby, feminist
Megan Lloyd George, politician, daughter of David Lloyd George, who was not on the list.
Naomi Mitchison, novelist
Sylvia Pankhurst, suffragist, writer, journalist and anti-fascist
Eleanor Rathbone, Member of Parliament. Activist for assistance to refugees
Katharine Stewart-Murray, Duchess of Atholl
Sybil Beatrice Webb, socialist and economist
Rebecca West, English suffragist and writer
Virginia Woolf, novelist and essayist, wife of Leonard Woolf

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hitler wasn't a Fascist.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Hitler wasn't a Fascist.

http://spartacus-educational.com/GERfascist.htm

Once in power Adolf Hitler turned Germany into a fascist state. Fascist was originally used to describe the government of Benito Mussolini in Italy. Mussolini's fascist one-party state emphasized patriotism, national unity, hatred of communism, admiration of military values and unquestioning obedience. Hitler was deeply influenced by Mussolini's Italy and his Germany shared many of the same characteristics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe, influenced by national syndicalism. Fascism originated in Italy during World War I and spread to other European countries. Fascism opposes liberalism, Marxism and anarchism and is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional European left–right spectrum.

Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete, and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[7] Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society.[7] Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature, and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[8][9][10][11] Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.

 

[underguy1]

Fascism evolves from Socialist/Communist SJW, if we are to use that term, philosophy, the philosophy of the classes and the equitable distribution of the wealth of a nation and thus it ends in absurdities like the idea that you may own the means of production, but we dictate how you will employ your Capital. We have taken the name "Socialist" because Socialism has evolved to mean educated and elevated as we retreat from meritocracy where the "Liberal" intellectual does not have the standing he desires; that lofty perch is best achieved with an aristocracy, even if not one of birthright.

Fascism is the merger of the state and big business.

It is an entirely capitalist phenomenon.

That's where the US is now. Late stage capitalism and thus creeping fascism.

The oligarchs seek to divert the masses' attention away from what they're up to by blaming the other (socialists, muslims, Russia, unions).

Whether Trump or Hillary. Makes no difference. Both used the rhetoric.

 

[LadyVer]

You're quibbling.

 

[underguy1]

Hitler wasn't a Fascist.

Hitler was most definitely a fascist.

 

[neci]

i am a tiny blue dot in a sea of red. the shadow of a rippled flag. this is the first i've heard of SJW, in the last few days and it makes me laugh. social justice is fought on the ground in your every day lives. it is giving your time. it is yelling as loud as you can, when there is a fire, so the messages reach their destinations. mostly serving conduit. it's also not pissing so many people off that your message is not heard. i am also very PC in ways. i believe and practice nonviolence, plus a reasonable amount of self defense. i honor our justice system, although i believe it needs reforming.

i am sky blue over fields of golden waving grain.

 

[neci]

Hitler was most definitely a fascist.

hitler was a sick fuck.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hitler was most definitely a fascist.

He was a Socialist.

He wrote that.

 

[underguy1]

i am a tiny blue dot in a sea of red. the shadow of a rippled flag. this is the first i've heard of SJW, in the last few days and it makes me laugh. social justice is fought on the ground in your every day lives. it is giving your time. it is yelling as loud as you can, when there is a fire, so the messages reach their destinations. mostly serving conduit. it's also not pissing so many people off that your message is not heard. i am also very PC in ways. i believe and practice nonviolence, plus a reasonable amount of self defense. i honor our justice system, although i believe it needs reforming.

i am sky blue over fields of golden waving grain.

Social justice is not about being a liberal. It is about equality, equal opportunity and the right to human dignity for all.

It cannot be separated from economic justice. The right to work at a living wage, the right to an education, the right to health care, the right to adequate shelter and the right to participate meaningfully in society.

 

[underguy1]

He was a Socialist.

He wrote that.

Oh FFS. Do you know no history?

 

[neci]

Social justice is not about being a liberal. It is about equality, equal opportunity and the right to human dignity for all.

It cannot be separated from economic justice. The right to work at a living wage, the right to an education, the right to health care, the right to adequate shelter and the right to participate meaningfully in society.

if you are fine with the way things are good for you, but if you thinks something needs changing, do it.

 

[Conager]

Social justice is not about being a liberal. It is about equality, equal opportunity and the right to human dignity for all.

It cannot be separated from economic justice. The right to work at a living wage, the right to an education, the right to health care, the right to adequate shelter and the right to participate meaningfully in society.

What if they have no interest in participating meaningfully in society and they simply want the free stuff. Is that okay?

What's your preferred method of forcing people to "participate meaningfully in society?"

What's Plan B for when you run out of other people's money?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Well articulated as usual.


You don't have any argument, just pronouncement, the sign of a politically atrophied mind closed to the facts, brimming with the myth. The only reason to call Hitler, an avowed Socialist, a Fascist it to try and protect the brand name in order to get another bite at the apple hoping it doesn't turn into dictatorship again.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What if they have no interest in participating meaningfully in society and they simply want the free stuff. Is that okay?

What's your preferred method of forcing people to "participate meaningfully in society?"

What's Plan B for when you run out of other people's money?

Make balanced accounts on both sides of the ledger and create more to distribute to your cronies...

 

[underguy1]

if you are fine with the way things are good for you, but if you thinks something needs changing, do it.

I am personally very comfortably off.

But humanity is circling the drain as we speak.

And pithy, meaningless words like yours don't help.

What is required is mass action.

 

[Conager]

In my Young Pioneer's classes, I was told that Fascism is the merger of the state and big business.

It is an entirely capitalist phenomenon.

That's where the US is now. Late stage capitalism and thus creeping fascism.

The oligarchs seek to divert the masses' attention away from what they're up to by blaming the other (socialists, muslims, Russia, unions).

Whether Trump or Hillary. Makes no difference. Both used the rhetoric.

They do a fine job of indoctrination, don't they?

Now for reality. Crony capitalism and corporatism have nothing to do with capitalism other than the fact that there's money involved.

It's a corruption problem not a capitalism problem.

 

[underguy1]

What if they have no interest in participating meaningfully in society and they simply want the free stuff. Is that okay?

What's your preferred method of forcing people to "participate meaningfully in society?"

What's Plan B for when you run out of other people's money?

I think that people have a right to dignified work at a living wage, so I've covered that.

One doesn't get forced to have a right, dude.

Loving the Margaret Thatcher quotes btw.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They do a fine job of indoctrination, don't they?

Now for reality. Crony capitalism and corporatism have nothing to do with capitalism other than the fact that there's money involved.

It's a corruption problem not a capitalism problem.

He seems to think capitalism = boogeyman/ shit he doesn't like.

 

[alea_]

If I understood correctly:

1.Fascists used the mantra "we can sacrifice the individual for the good of the nation".


2.The version of globalism that they're promoting now aims for the opposite: their goal is to destroy the notion of the nation state, which would make it easier for corporations and the 0.01% to achieve their end goal.

But globalists often use a similar strategy that fascists did, by (mis)using the liberal mantra: "we can sacrifice the interest of the majority group for the good of oppressed minority groups and world peace".

Which explains some of their justifications for and why so many liberals bought into their wars overseas. (which ended up killing so many american soldiers alongside civillians)
And other things: like wanting to give citizenship to illegal aliens who broke the law and whose lives or well-being aren't at risk, and villifying and labelling as "racists" anyone who objects.

 

[Conager]

I am personally very comfortably off.

But humanity is circling the drain as we speak.

And pithy, meaningless words like yours don't help.

What is required is mass action.

Rom's your guy. Just point out to him those evil, greedy, fascist, capitalists so he can smash them in the head with a brick.

The sooner you two get started, 5he sooner we can all be living the utopian dream and driving Laadas and Trabants.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

i am a tiny blue dot in a sea of red. the shadow of a rippled flag. this is the first i've heard of SJW, in the last few days and it makes me laugh. social justice is fought on the ground in your every day lives. it is giving your time. it is yelling as loud as you can, when there is a fire, so the messages reach their destinations. mostly serving conduit. it's also not pissing so many people off that your message is not heard. i am also very PC in ways. i believe and practice nonviolence, plus a reasonable amount of self defense. i honor our justice system, although i believe it needs reforming.

i am sky blue over fields of golden waving grain.

The term has been around for a while for the social media age which befits the conduit framing you mentioned, nothing truly new. What you're actually hearing is the term in acronym form re-engineered as a backlash pejorative by those it inconvenienced the most once waves were being made and felt, powered by that very same social media.

As one example, if it had been coined during the 50s and 60s, it would've been the pejorative equivalent of "our Negroes were just happy and fine 'til you Northern folks came along and started causin' trouble 'round h'yar."

TBH, that doesn't stop the actual praxis of SJ by SJW, but AFAIK, most SJM appropriators are IRL down low NIMBYs who are socially DOA. Hey, WYSIWYG, SRSLY. LOL