I think I need to say this. Why did Hillary lose?

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You can thank our board members such as Throb, Luk, Rory, UD, zip, Petey, Adre, and let us not leave out some of the gals, sigh, LadyV, Pookie, etc...,

And I'm sorry if your left-wing feelings are hurt that you did not make this list, but in the aggregate, you did exactly what has been transpiring in the real world. You cannot have polite conversations, gentle debates or mannerly disagreements. You go so quickly negative, you're stupid, you're backwards, you cannot be open-minded, terrified of change, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, Neanderthal, Fascist, NAZI, ad infinitum and then throw in a heaping dose of ridicule.

You never talked any issues, and yet all we ever heard in the wind is the plaint, "Why can't we talk about issues?"

But the Democrats treated the election like a Lit thread. Shout everyone down, be nasty, accuse the candidate of being the equivalent of the bastard offspring of Larry Flint, Jeffrey Dalmer and Adolf Hitler, a man who would start world war three, outlaw abortion, but blacks in chains and deport all Hispanics and Muslims. Never black and white with you.

Ever since 2008, you have told us, if you are white and do not have a college education, you are fucking shit. If you are white, have a college education and are conservative, you are a stupid fucking shit. If you do not follow our social religion, we will ruin you. Shut the fuck up, get into the closet and know when you are licked, defeated and in the ash bin of history.

Well, where did that nastiness get you? Yeah, you put some bakers and photographers out of business, even managed to ruin a few careers. But now, the President, the Senate and the House are in the hands of your enemies. Not only that, but you have delivered a majority of State governments to your enemies. And now, we see, you are going to get even fucking nastier, if that is even possible.

You kept pissing down the backs of your fellow Americans because you thought, thanks to your antics and machinations, that they no longer had a voice in running America, that you were the kings and queens, the vanguard of the future, and telling us it was warm rain.

You were so focused on telling us how evil the Trump was, that you forgot to talk about the issues that your own fucking voters cared about and they stayed home.

Well fucking done.

BRILLIANT!
 
You called sigh a cunt when she destroyed your narrative in a thread where you were already on the ropes.
 
I sense, that with your frenetic and angry posting Luk, that somehow you took this election outcome personally, as if it were a repudiation of well, you, and everything you believe in...


:eek:
 
This. I've said it from the beginning (and I say this as a classical Liberal), Trump is the radical Left's monster. They created him. In their arrogance they thought they could insult and belittle and abuse the people who make up the majority of the US; the working class. They abandoned the positive rhetoric and championing of the working class that was so successful for Obama in favor of hate and blame and witch-hunts and general negativity. They threw the American people under the bus, then laughed at them and called them racist as they bled out in the street. They could have had this election in the bag with Bernie but the DNC in their arrogance had to rig it for their precious princess. Well, the people have spoken, and all I can say is I fucking told you so.
 
You can thank our board members such as Throb, Luk, Rory, UD, zip, Petey, Adre, and let us not leave out some of the gals, sigh, LadyV, Pookie, etc...,

And I'm sorry if your left-wing feelings are hurt that you did not make this list, but in the aggregate, you did exactly what has been transpiring in the real world. You cannot have polite conversations, gentle debates or mannerly disagreements. You go so quickly negative, you're stupid, you're backwards, you cannot be open-minded, terrified of change, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, Neanderthal, Fascist, NAZI, ad infinitum and then throw in a heaping dose of ridicule.

You never talked any issues, and yet all we ever heard in the wind is the plaint, "Why can't we talk about issues?"

But the Democrats treated the election like a Lit thread. Shout everyone down, be nasty, accuse the candidate of being the equivalent of the bastard offspring of Larry Flint, Jeffrey Dalmer and Adolf Hitler, a man who would start world war three, outlaw abortion, but blacks in chains and deport all Hispanics and Muslims. Never black and white with you.

Ever since 2008, you have told us, if you are white and do not have a college education, you are fucking shit. If you are white, have a college education and are conservative, you are a stupid fucking shit. If you do not follow our social religion, we will ruin you. Shut the fuck up, get into the closet and know when you are licked, defeated and in the ash bin of history.

Well, where did that nastiness get you? Yeah, you put some bakers and photographers out of business, even managed to ruin a few careers. But now, the President, the Senate and the House are in the hands of your enemies. Not only that, but you have delivered a majority of State governments to your enemies. And now, we see, you are going to get even fucking nastier, if that is even possible.

You kept pissing down the backs of your fellow Americans because you thought, thanks to your antics and machinations, that they no longer had a voice in running America, that you were the kings and queens, the vanguard of the future, and telling us it was warm rain.

You were so focused on telling us how evil the Trump was, that you forgot to talk about the issues that your own fucking voters cared about and they stayed home.

Well fucking done.

BRILLIANT!
This is well said

Had CuntClinon won, we would have heard SEXISM for 8 yrs, like we heard RACIST for 8 yrs

They NEVER ever talk issues, only attack us with ISMS.

Remember the health care summit? Ryan and others sat down and made point by point comments of the problems, and pointed to the page in the law itself, Obama sat there like a bored kid, rolled his eyes and the MSM called Ryan

RACIST!
 
You can thank our board members such as Throb, Luk, Rory, UD, zip, Petey, Adre, and let us not leave out some of the gals, sigh, LadyV, Pookie, etc...,

And I'm sorry if your left-wing feelings are hurt that you did not make this list, but in the aggregate, you did exactly what has been transpiring in the real world. You cannot have polite conversations, gentle debates or mannerly disagreements. You go so quickly negative, you're stupid, you're backwards, you cannot be open-minded, terrified of change, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, Neanderthal, Fascist, NAZI, ad infinitum and then throw in a heaping dose of ridicule.

You never talked any issues, and yet all we ever heard in the wind is the plaint, "Why can't we talk about issues?"

But the Democrats treated the election like a Lit thread. Shout everyone down, be nasty, accuse the candidate of being the equivalent of the bastard offspring of Larry Flint, Jeffrey Dalmer and Adolf Hitler, a man who would start world war three, outlaw abortion, but blacks in chains and deport all Hispanics and Muslims. Never black and white with you.

Ever since 2008, you have told us, if you are white and do not have a college education, you are fucking shit. If you are white, have a college education and are conservative, you are a stupid fucking shit. If you do not follow our social religion, we will ruin you. Shut the fuck up, get into the closet and know when you are licked, defeated and in the ash bin of history.

Well, where did that nastiness get you? Yeah, you put some bakers and photographers out of business, even managed to ruin a few careers. But now, the President, the Senate and the House are in the hands of your enemies. Not only that, but you have delivered a majority of State governments to your enemies. And now, we see, you are going to get even fucking nastier, if that is even possible.

You kept pissing down the backs of your fellow Americans because you thought, thanks to your antics and machinations, that they no longer had a voice in running America, that you were the kings and queens, the vanguard of the future, and telling us it was warm rain.

You were so focused on telling us how evil the Trump was, that you forgot to talk about the issues that your own fucking voters cared about and they stayed home.

Well fucking done.

BRILLIANT!

Excellent analysis... and from a "deplorable" yet:D
 
They think we are STUPID!

Not Just a Rejection of Washington, a Rejection of Obama’s Washington

If Democrats are wondering how they got here… perhaps President Obama should have negotiated on Obamacare. Maybe when Jonathan Gruber declared that Obamacare depended upon the “stupidity of American voter,” Democrats like Obama and Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine should have recoiled in shame at the naked cynicism displayed. Maybe instead of touting “Recovery Summer” and all of the consecutive months of job growth, President Obama and Hillary Clinton should have recognized that talk of a recovery would sound like out-of-touch happy-talk to the struggling corners of America. Maybe she should have listened when Bill Clinton reacted to the State of the Union address, “Why is it such a wacky election? Because millions and millions and millions and millions of people look at that pretty picture of America he painted and they cannot find themselves in it to save their lives.”

If Democrats are stunned by the anger at Washington, maybe it would have been mitigated if President Obama had fired some high-level, recognizable figure over Fast and Furious. Or the IRS scandal. Or the $2 billion spent building Healthcare.gov. Or the Veterans Administration letting veterans die waiting for care. Or the Office of Personnel Management hacking. Or the dishonest explanations about Bowe Berghdahl deal. Maybe when the country witnessed horrible shootings, President Obama shouldn’t have rushed to the cameras to contend that those who opposed to his preferred gun-control laws bore some of the responsibility. Maybe when a judge issued an injunction stopping an executive order suspending deportations, Obama should have recognized he was seen as surpassing his authority. Maybe he should have recognized that declaring, “I have a pen and a phone” would be seen as refusing to recognize Congress’ role in governing. Millions upon millions of Americans feel like they “work hard and play by the rules” as Bill Clinton said in 1992, and they’re losing ground. Meanwhile, they look to Washington, and see one high-powered figure after another break the rules, break the law, and stumble around in incompetence and get endlessly rewarded. Hillary Clinton probably personified that more than anyone. We’ve all heard the litany of scandals. She always walked away unscathed, to another lucrative book deal, to more insanely large speaking fees, to more power and influence and gushing press profiles.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner
 
I sense, that with your frenetic and angry posting Luk, that somehow you took this election outcome personally, as if it were a repudiation of well, you, and everything you believe in...


:eek:


DisgustiLuked is the new VetteMiles!
 
You can thank our board members such as Throb, Luk, Rory, UD, zip, Petey, Adre, and let us not leave out some of the gals, sigh, LadyV, Pookie, etc...,

And I'm sorry if your left-wing feelings are hurt that you did not make this list, but in the aggregate, you did exactly what has been transpiring in the real world. You cannot have polite conversations, gentle debates or mannerly disagreements. You go so quickly negative, ....

Oh, the irony.
 
You can thank our board members such as Throb, Luk, Rory, UD, zip, Petey, Adre, and let us not leave out some of the gals, sigh, LadyV, Pookie, etc...,

And I'm sorry if your left-wing feelings are hurt that you did not make this list, but in the aggregate, you did exactly what has been transpiring in the real world. You cannot have polite conversations, gentle debates or mannerly disagreements. You go so quickly negative, you're stupid, you're backwards, you cannot be open-minded, terrified of change, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, Neanderthal, Fascist, NAZI, ad infinitum and then throw in a heaping dose of ridicule.

You never talked any issues, and yet all we ever heard in the wind is the plaint, "Why can't we talk about issues?"

But the Democrats treated the election like a Lit thread. Shout everyone down, be nasty, accuse the candidate of being the equivalent of the bastard offspring of Larry Flint, Jeffrey Dalmer and Adolf Hitler, a man who would start world war three, outlaw abortion, but blacks in chains and deport all Hispanics and Muslims. Never black and white with you.

Ever since 2008, you have told us, if you are white and do not have a college education, you are fucking shit. If you are white, have a college education and are conservative, you are a stupid fucking shit. If you do not follow our social religion, we will ruin you. Shut the fuck up, get into the closet and know when you are licked, defeated and in the ash bin of history.

Well, where did that nastiness get you? Yeah, you put some bakers and photographers out of business, even managed to ruin a few careers. But now, the President, the Senate and the House are in the hands of your enemies. Not only that, but you have delivered a majority of State governments to your enemies. And now, we see, you are going to get even fucking nastier, if that is even possible.

You kept pissing down the backs of your fellow Americans because you thought, thanks to your antics and machinations, that they no longer had a voice in running America, that you were the kings and queens, the vanguard of the future, and telling us it was warm rain.

You were so focused on telling us how evil the Trump was, that you forgot to talk about the issues that your own fucking voters cared about and they stayed home.

Well fucking done.

BRILLIANT!


Sad to say, you nailed it. I've said this all election, no one wanted to hear it. Whelp, here we are.
 
You can thank our board members such as Throb, Luk, Rory, UD, zip, Petey, Adre, and let us not leave out some of the gals, sigh, LadyV, Pookie, etc...,

And I'm sorry if your left-wing feelings are hurt that you did not make this list, but in the aggregate, you did exactly what has been transpiring in the real world. You cannot have polite conversations, gentle debates or mannerly disagreements. You go so quickly negative, you're stupid, you're backwards, you cannot be open-minded, terrified of change, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, Neanderthal, Fascist, NAZI, ad infinitum and then throw in a heaping dose of ridicule.

You never talked any issues, and yet all we ever heard in the wind is the plaint, "Why can't we talk about issues?"

But the Democrats treated the election like a Lit thread. Shout everyone down, be nasty, accuse the candidate of being the equivalent of the bastard offspring of Larry Flint, Jeffrey Dalmer and Adolf Hitler, a man who would start world war three, outlaw abortion, but blacks in chains and deport all Hispanics and Muslims. Never black and white with you.

Ever since 2008, you have told us, if you are white and do not have a college education, you are fucking shit. If you are white, have a college education and are conservative, you are a stupid fucking shit. If you do not follow our social religion, we will ruin you. Shut the fuck up, get into the closet and know when you are licked, defeated and in the ash bin of history.

Well, where did that nastiness get you? Yeah, you put some bakers and photographers out of business, even managed to ruin a few careers. But now, the President, the Senate and the House are in the hands of your enemies. Not only that, but you have delivered a majority of State governments to your enemies. And now, we see, you are going to get even fucking nastier, if that is even possible.

You kept pissing down the backs of your fellow Americans because you thought, thanks to your antics and machinations, that they no longer had a voice in running America, that you were the kings and queens, the vanguard of the future, and telling us it was warm rain.

You were so focused on telling us how evil the Trump was, that you forgot to talk about the issues that your own fucking voters cared about and they stayed home.

Well fucking done.

BRILLIANT!

A lot of truth there.
 
Arizona has a lot of upper Midwestern retirees retired military people and California and Nevada transplants.

As a result Arizona has gone somewhat purple although and it's heart, it's very much a red State it's only blue in the middle of Phoenix where government jobs around and North Scottsdale where is the limousine liberals live.

The Arizona Republic pissed off their last conservative can subscribe or at least 25 years ago. At this point it's basically a free giveaway paper they make their money off of ads on there neighborhood sections that they actually do give out for free like the Pennysaver.

I kept hearing people from outside of Arizona say that Arizona was in play and I saw exactly what Pro Clinton sign and zero Pro Clinton stickers.

In addition to some Kook flying a trump flag down the freeway the thing that finally convinced me that Arizona was definitely not in danger of voting for Clinton was when I saw a Jeep with deplorable and proud of it painted on the back window in big letters.

KBates analysis in another thread was dead on.

Hillary's comment about the deplorable says what song the election for her. She was playing to her base, but she was the best tool for get out the vote. It's exactly the same thing that happened with Romney's 47% comment which was nowhere near as vitriolic.
 
Hillary lost because they believed the polls and didn't take into consideration the people that will vote for a man like President Elect Trump but were embarrassed or too weak to admit it.

Period.
 
When Obama won in 2008, I had asked a black tenant of mine why he voted for Obama. His response:

"I wanted to have a Black President."

He knew nothing about his policies or positions. He said he didn't care. That's the reason why Obama won. A massive amount of black people voted for him because they wanted to have a Black President. They did not show up to vote for Clinton. Simple as that.
 
Hillary lost because they believed the polls and didn't take into consideration the people that will vote for a man like President Elect Trump but were embarrassed or too weak to admit it.

Period.

The polls were manipulated from start to finish. She knew that. Hell the DNC had a hand in it.

Her whole campaign was "Trump is evil" and did nothing to address the concerns of people disatisifed with the status quo. The whole campaign was essentially "You are with her or you are a racist/sexist/homophope who want to end abortion." Those were not the topics at hand in the this election, as much as HRC tried to make that not so.
 
The polls were manipulated from start to finish. She knew that. Hell the DNC had a hand in it.

Her whole campaign was "Trump is evil" and did nothing to address the concerns of people disatisifed with the status quo. The whole campaign was essentially "You are with her or you are a racist/sexist/homophope who want to end abortion." Those were not the topics at hand in the this election, as much as HRC tried to make that not so.

Anybody with a lick of common sense knew the many, many polls showing Clinton with a lead of six, eight, ten or even twelve points over Trump were pure bullshit. As I've stated numerous times here, Obama only beat Romney by 3.9 in the 2012 election. Hillary is nowhere near the political candidate Obama is. She's not even in the same league. And Trump, though an amateur, is a far better politician than Romney ever was.
 
Hillary's comment about the deplorable says what song the election for her. She was playing to her base, but she was the best tool for get out the vote.


As I type this, it's still not a sure thing that Trump will win as many votes as Romney did. He needs another million and a half. The "get out the vote" story was Clinton's failure, not Trump's success.


I won't bother addressing anything AJ said because everything in his post was ridiculous, especially the part about how liberals here don't know how to be polite. I'll remember that the next time he and busybody bat comments back and forth like Federer and Nadal.
 
Arizona has a lot of upper Midwestern retirees retired military people and California and Nevada transplants.

As a result Arizona has gone somewhat purple although and it's heart, it's very much a red State it's only blue in the middle of Phoenix where government jobs around and North Scottsdale where is the limousine liberals live.

The Arizona Republic pissed off their last conservative can subscribe or at least 25 years ago. At this point it's basically a free giveaway paper they make their money off of ads on there neighborhood sections that they actually do give out for free like the Pennysaver.

I kept hearing people from outside of Arizona say that Arizona was in play and I saw exactly what Pro Clinton sign and zero Pro Clinton stickers.

In addition to some Kook flying a trump flag down the freeway the thing that finally convinced me that Arizona was definitely not in danger of voting for Clinton was when I saw a Jeep with deplorable and proud of it painted on the back window in big letters.

KBates analysis in another thread was dead on.

Hillary's comment about the deplorable says what song the election for her. She was playing to her base, but she was the best tool for get out the vote. It's exactly the same thing that happened with Romney's 47% comment which was nowhere near as vitriolic.

Yet Joe is gone and prop 205 failed. I was a little surprised at both.

I am looking out my office window watching them set up the stands at TPC as I type this.

4 months setting up. 3 tearing down...Never got that.
 
A massive amount of black people voted for him because they wanted to have a Black President.

So a massive amount of white people did the same thing for the same purpose? For two or three hundred fucking years? Is that the same fucking shit?

Nah, fuck that shit. Nice anecdote and I've heard it before, but hey, lemme clue you to this, I'm a fucking person. I'm not black because I'm simply background coloring for your white male world birth-to-death movie that's been running things for white males and you can see an a Obama or a Hillary Clinton popping up as a novelty feature.

Fuck that shit all the fucking way to heaven and hell. Nah, dude.
 
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