When a white man, Sr71plt calls a black woman a "black bitch" is it racist?

[Hashfag45]

It wasn't racist. Funk is black and she can sometimes be a bitch. Since when is telling the truth racist? If I call Toubab and Query my white friends am I racist?

No, you'd be stupid. Funk calls out white people and blames white people for everything. Her being a black woman has caused her to develop an inferiority complex, her way of dealing with it is to play the victim and call out the evil, white, corporate men. I will hand it to her, she has garnered much white sympathy. If she were a man she would be told to shut the fuck up and stop whining, like she should.

 

[bg23]

There's too much fixation on the mere usage of the word black - it isn't about the fact that he used the word "black" to identify her, because in and of itself calling someone a "black-something" isn't offensive. It's the usage of the phrase as a whole and the context around it - "hard black bitch" IS offensive, not because you're identifying the "hard bitch" as black, but because you are perpetuating and utilizing an existing racist stereotype in a manner clearly intended to insult.

Like, it doesn't matter whether he intended to call LadyF a "hard black bitch" or whether he intended to call just her PERSONA a "hard black bitch" the phrase in and of itself is racist. It's stereotypical and used to paint a massive number of black women as being caricatures.

And that's just the racial part of it - it doesn't touch on why men (well, anyone) calling women "bitches" problematic. Bitches gets used for both men and women, but has the opposite meaning when used for the other gender. Women are called bitches for being outspoken/aggressive/dominant, while men are called "bitches" for being effeminate/weak/worthy of contempt... how's that for misogyny?

IDK anything about the poster who said the phrase and have zero ability to judge him as racist or not, but the words most certainly have racist overtones.

Liar, I agree with you that there's no such thing as an appropriate or inappropriate phrase, only appropriate or inappropriate applications. But it's pretty clear that most racial slurs have very few "appropriate" applications, and I think it's also disingenuous to pretend like this particular phrase has any more "appropriate" applications than the typical racist epithet.

 

[bg23]

No, you'd be stupid. Funk calls out white people and blames white people for everything. Her being a black woman has caused her to develop an inferiority complex, her way of dealing with it is to play the victim and call out the evil, white, corporate men. I will hand it to her, she has garnered much white sympathy. If she were a man she would be told to shut the fuck up and stop whining, like she should.

You mean the way you're convinced people were picking on you because you were apparently a woman? You mean like that type of victim complex?

 

[Killswitch1]

You mean the way you're convinced people were picking on you because you were apparently a woman? You mean like that type of victim complex?

Thats an alt hun. Pay no attention.

 

[smoothg103rd]

There's too much fixation on the mere usage of the word black - it isn't about the fact that he used the word "black" to identify her, because in and of itself calling someone a "black-something" isn't offensive. It's the usage of the phrase as a whole and the context around it - "hard black bitch" IS offensive, not because you're identifying the "hard bitch" as black, but because you are perpetuating and utilizing an existing racist stereotype in a manner clearly intended to insult.

Like, it doesn't matter whether he intended to call LadyF a "hard black bitch" or whether he intended to call just her PERSONA a "hard black bitch" the phrase in and of itself is racist. It's stereotypical and used to paint a massive number of black women as being caricatures.

And that's just the racial part of it - it doesn't touch on why men (well, anyone) calling women "bitches" problematic. Bitches gets used for both men and women, but has the opposite meaning when used for the other gender. Women are called bitches for being outspoken/aggressive/dominant, while men are called "bitches" for being effeminate/weak/worthy of contempt... how's that for misogyny?

IDK anything about the poster who said the phrase and have zero ability to judge him as racist or not, but the words most certainly have racist overtones.

Liar, I agree with you that there's no such thing as an appropriate or inappropriate phrase, only appropriate or inappropriate applications. But it's pretty clear that most racial slurs have very few "appropriate" applications, and I think it's also disingenuous to pretend like this particular phrase has any more "appropriate" applications than the typical racist epithet.

I call women bitches all the time, and it has nothing to do with them being weak.

 

[zipman]

I call women bitches all the time, and it has nothing to do with them being weak.

No, it has to do with you being a dick who cant communicate in any other way.

 

[RoryN]

I call women bitches all the time, and it has nothing to do with them being weak.

Indeed. It has to do with you being weak.

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[BotanyBoy]

I'm not disputing the fact that one sees the reverse too - the entitled mean girls who think that they're special and treat GB men like crap.
Two offsprings of the same phenomenon.

Of course, I'm not referring to you and the majority of other political posters. Youall ( myself too) are 'asexual' as you often like to say, and gender has no bearing in our interactions.

No, what about lit makes it male driven and misogynistic?

There are elements of it to be found both in the smut section and boards.

But I don't think the site is male driven and misogynistic.

 

[smoothg103rd]

No, it has to do with you being a dick who cant communicate in any other way.

I can communicate in another way. I just choose not to.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Indeed. It has to do with you being weak.

http://i.imgur.com/JV4U2EA.gif

Shaddup bitch.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I personally don't think you embody a "hard black bitch" anything. I think you have some crazy and disturbing views, mind you -- and I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find that in the broader argument you were having, Pilot was right and you were wrong -- but I wouldn't bring your ethnicity or gender into it. It was indeed lame and kinda casually racist for Pilot to do so.

That said, I would hardly call him a "notable" racist by Lit standards. Not even close.

Crazy and disturbing thread, but I was right! Since then we had the coronation of Bruce/Caitlin Jenner, countless useless bathorrom arguments, viral videos featuring prepubescents undergoing transition, and a large number of new trans characters in the media.

You linked to that as a fail, but really its a win.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

"Black bitch" is an inappropriate thing for a man such as myself - or most people - to call someone.

On the other hand, I just used the phrase "black bitch" in the sentence above in a totally appropriate manner.

And there I did it again.

There is no such thing as an inappropriate phrase. Only inappropriate applications.

So you are saying it is not appropriate for a white man to say to black women, unless he is quoting someone.

I don't know whether you are sucking sr7's cock on the side or something, but you sure are doing a lot of twisting and turning to say something rather basic.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

There's too much fixation on the mere usage of the word black - it isn't about the fact that he used the word "black" to identify her, because in and of itself calling someone a "black-something" isn't offensive. It's the usage of the phrase as a whole and the context around it - "hard black bitch" IS offensive, not because you're identifying the "hard bitch" as black, but because you are perpetuating and utilizing an existing racist stereotype in a manner clearly intended to insult.

Like, it doesn't matter whether he intended to call LadyF a "hard black bitch" or whether he intended to call just her PERSONA a "hard black bitch" the phrase in and of itself is racist. It's stereotypical and used to paint a massive number of black women as being caricatures.

And that's just the racial part of it - it doesn't touch on why men (well, anyone) calling women "bitches" problematic. Bitches gets used for both men and women, but has the opposite meaning when used for the other gender. Women are called bitches for being outspoken/aggressive/dominant, while men are called "bitches" for being effeminate/weak/worthy of contempt... how's that for misogyny?

IDK anything about the poster who said the phrase and have zero ability to judge him as racist or not, but the words most certainly have racist overtones.

Liar, I agree with you that there's no such thing as an appropriate or inappropriate phrase, only appropriate or inappropriate applications. But it's pretty clear that most racial slurs have very few "appropriate" applications, and I think it's also disingenuous to pretend like this particular phrase has any more "appropriate" applications than the typical racist epithet.

Well said.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I call women bitches all the time, and it has nothing to do with them being weak.

The type of woman who would associate with a man like you who regularly calls her a bitch needs help with her self esteem. Then again, I would say the same of any man who associates with you (or I should say your persona).

 

[smoothg103rd]

The type of women who would associate with a man like you who regularly calls her a bitch needs help with her self esteem. Then again, I would say the same of any man who associates with you (or I should say your persona).

Any man who associate with you I'll call them lucky. With your sexy self.

But seriously Funk, it's just the way of my world. I don't think I should be judged or looked down on because of the way that I live.

 

[Emerson40]

I can communicate in another way. I just choose not to.

If - and that's a big IF - that were true, then you look even sillier for your selective ignorance.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Any man who associate with you I'll call them lucky. With your sexy self.

But seriously Funk, it's just the way of my world. I don't think I should be judged or looked down on because of the way that I live.

Then don't inject the judgment calls of your world into mine.

 

[hashtag45]

It wasn't racist. Funk is black and she can sometimes be a bitch. Since when is telling the truth racist? If I call Toubab and Query my white friends am I racist?

It's not about each word taken in isolation. It's about the negative stereotype that he put out there.

 

[smoothg103rd]

If - and that's a big IF - that were true, then you look even sillier for your selective ignorance.

Probably not to the level that you'll are at, but I can communicate differently. I just choose not to, because this is who I am, a motherfucker either gone love me or hate me. No skin off my back, because what another person eat don't make me shit, so why would I care what someone else think of me?

 

[smoothg103rd]

Then don't inject the judgment calls of your world into mine.

I'm just stating my opinion, sexy. I think you can occasionally be a bitch and you are black, so how is the truth racist.

Honestly, if I would've called you a black bitch you have made the same fuss?

 

[hashtag45]

You mean the way you're convinced people were picking on you because you were apparently a woman? You mean like that type of victim complex?

Hashfag45 is a Robdownsouth alt, bg23.

 

[Jennifer]

Hashfag45 is a Robdownsouth alt, bg23.

Wrong again. Shocking.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I'm just stating my opinion, sexy. I think you can occasionally be a bitch and you are black, so how is the truth racist.

Honestly, if I would've called you a black bitch you have made the same fuss?

I would not have had a discussion about writing in the second person point of view with you in the first place. I rarely speak to you at all.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Wrong again. Shocking.

Eh, does it matter? Trollimg alts just go right on ignore, no need to speculate on the origin.

 

[hashtag45]

Wrong again. Shocking.

His MO's (focus on and racist slurs against jewish, native american and asian posters) show an uncanny similarity and pattern to RobDownSouth. Among other personal attacks (on posters' children and ill-health), and other things.
And I and Que aren't the only ones who believe it's Rob.

You guys got it wrong if you think that that canadian is behind these myriad of attack alts.
Since when is a canadian so invested in and gets so over the top emotional and personal about american politics?

Take your rose glasses off, people and realize what one of your friends has been doing.