The Nazis killed jews the US kills muslims.

[Colonel Hogan]

When you commit genocide on your own people, the answer is yes! It's not such a reach. Not unless you're intentionally trying to turn a blind eye to the genocide so as to push "your" version of the truth.

The NAZI's killed 11 million civilians, many of them German citizens, in WWII. No one knows how many Russians Stalin's regime killed, so the numbers range from 3 million to 60 million. Is it really stabbing a monster in the back when you realize he's a bigger monster than the one you've just defeated?

Estimates of the number of Syrians killed by the Assad regime are around 400,000, according to the UN. Not as bloody as Hitler or Stalin, but still, genocide is genocide, no matter how hard you try to blame it all on the U.S.

Do I wish the U.S. had stayed out of the Middle East? Yes! If the Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims want to kill each other off, it's tempting to let them. But the international community will blame us for not preventing the genocide. Just like they did when we didn't intervene (or intervened too late) in the Pol Pot genocide in Cambodia, the tribal genocide in Rwanda and Burundi, the ethnic cleansing in Darfur and Bosnia, etc. If we do nothing, its our fault for not assuming the role of policeman to the world. But if we intervene, it's still our fault for interfering in political or religious matters that are none of our business.

It's a no-win situation that second-guessers like you sit in your ivory towers passing judgment on. That's because you won't get off your ass and do anything about it yourself, BUT you don't want anyone else taking action either. After all, if the problems of the world were ever to be resolved, you would no longer have a target for your hostilities. And you need someone to hate.

This. ^^^^

 

[needyou200]

That's not the same thing at all

muslins are trying to kill us! Jews didn't try and kill Nazis . You're fucking brain dead.

 

[underguy1]

Estimates of the number of Syrians killed by the Assad regime are around 400,000,

Laughable nonsense. Just US propaganda.

The USA started this war. The Syrian government is defending itself and its people from your proxies and your troops and your designs.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The USA started this war.

That doesn't make it responsible for the actions of other powers.

Sorry, that's just not how shit works.

 

[underguy1]

muslins are trying to kill us! Jews didn't try and kill Nazis . You're fucking brain dead.

No. You are killing muslims.

Dumb arse.

 

[underguy1]

Do I wish the U.S. had stayed out of the Middle East? Yes! If the Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims want to kill each other off, it's tempting to let them. But the international community will blame us for not preventing the genocide. Just like they did when we didn't intervene (or intervened too late) in the Pol Pot genocide in Cambodia, the tribal genocide in Rwanda and Burundi, the ethnic cleansing in Darfur and Bosnia, etc. If we do nothing, its our fault for not assuming the role of policeman to the world. But if we intervene, it's still our fault for interfering in political or religious matters that are none of our business.

Dude, you are so wrong about this that it's embarassing.

The USA caused all these wars.

 

[colddiesel]

America has an overriding responsibility to protect its National interests. The number of people killed to achieve that goal is of minor consequence. America is the most powerful nation on the planet. The only thing that surprises me is that she does not assert herself more vigorously. In net terms the world is a safer place when the most powerful nation 'puts a bit of stick about.' the wannabes then know their place and that they will get a bloody nose when they get out of line.

In the next few years there will be a confrontation between USA and Russia. America will win - Russia will lose. The only moral equation that counts is that the USA is the most powerful nation. The world needs to be reminded from time to time of that fact.

 

[underguy1]

You have to be a racist to believe sick nazi shit like that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I find it funny how he's the polar opposite of Real_American and coincidentally appeared at the same time the other disappeared.

He sees everyone who disagrees with him in a purely negative light.

However, when you accuse Izzykiss of being a right-winger, you lose any and all credibility.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

America has an overriding responsibility to protect its National interests. The number of people killed to achieve that goal is of minor consequence. America is the most powerful nation on the planet. The only thing that surprises me is that she does not assert herself more vigorously. In net terms the world is a safer place when the most powerful nation 'puts a bit of stick about.' the wannabes then know their place and that they will get a bloody nose when they get out of line.

In the next few years there will be a confrontation between USA and Russia. America will win - Russia will lose. The only moral equation that counts is that the USA is the most powerful nation. The world needs to be reminded from time to time of that fact.

And this is the truer reason for the conflict and strife; an American Administration dedicated to the idea that stronger is wronger [pardon the poor English, but we have thinkers here on the level of, if the glove don't fit, you musty acquit!] and that anyone who lashes out has been oppressed and must be understood rather than dealt with. We see the same thing internally as #BLM is coddled and fostered despite statistical evidence that shows their base complaint an urban myth.

What do we want?
Dead Cops!
When do we want them?
NOW!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You have to be a racist to believe sick nazi shit like that.

You must simply alternate between racist and right-winger without any regard to the definitions of the words...

 

[colddiesel]

You have to be a racist to believe sick nazi shit like that.

Your answer to everything seems to be insults - racist, nazi, capitalist, etc etc, ad infinitum, but no matter, I'll give you a lesson in realpolitik.

Russia has a small naval base at Tartus in Syria leased to them by Assad. They are terrified of losing it through a rebel victory in Syria. It is their only warm water port in the world not severely limited by geography and/or climate. America on the other hand has a strategic interest in either booting Russia out of Tartus , destroying the base, or rendering it useless. Russia's involvement in the war hurts her much more than the American involvement hurts the USA. US has the money to support it Russia doesn't.

The human suffering is regretable but as the Sunni Arabs are happy to support the rebels because it ties ISIS down, and Iran is happy to sacrifice its personnel to frustrate their moslem enemies. It is clear that moslems are 95% responsible for the deaths and if they chose to kill each other to the tune of 400,000 or so that's pretty much up to them.

The important thing is to eliminate Russia's ambitions in the Mediterranean. That is a legitimate objective of US foreign and strategic policy.

 

[eyerlives]

The human suffering is regretable but as the Sunni Arabs are happy to support the rebels because it ties ISIS down...

ISIS, for the most part, are Sunni Arabs, dude.

The important thing is to eliminate Russia's ambitions in the Mediterranean. That is a legitimate objective of US foreign and strategic policy.

Bullshit.

"a legitimate objective" might very well be to hinder "Russia's ambitions in the Mediterranean", but only a fool would fantasize anyone can "eliminate" those "ambitions" except Russia itself.

This neoconic force attitude without proper respect to the facts of reality is exactly why so many folks are killed, wounded, and displaced.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Your answer to everything seems to be insults - racist, nazi, capitalist, etc etc, ad infinitum, but no matter, I'll give you a lesson in realpolitik.

Russia has a small naval base at Tartus in Syria leased to them by Assad. They are terrified of losing it through a rebel victory in Syria. It is their only warm water port in the world not severely limited by geography and/or climate. America on the other hand has a strategic interest in either booting Russia out of Tartus , destroying the base, or rendering it useless. Russia's involvement in the war hurts her much more than the American involvement hurts the USA. US has the money to support it Russia doesn't.

The human suffering is regretable but as the Sunni Arabs are happy to support the rebels because it ties ISIS down, and Iran is happy to sacrifice its personnel to frustrate their moslem enemies. It is clear that moslems are 95% responsible for the deaths and if they chose to kill each other to the tune of 400,000 or so that's pretty much up to them.

The important thing is to eliminate Russia's ambitions in the Mediterranean. That is a legitimate objective of US foreign and strategic policy.

If there is any hope for a lasting peace in Syria it probably involves a deal between Russia and the United States in which Assad is deposed and Russia gets to keep their silly little naval base in Tartus. We've lived with it for how long before Syria blew up?

That doesn't begin to address the complexity of governing Syria after Assad, but it's probably the necessary first step to even giving peace a chance.

 

[1sickbastard]

If there is any hope for a lasting peace in Syria it probably involves a deal between Russia and the United States in which Assad is deposed and Russia gets to keep their silly little naval base in Tartus. We've lived with it for how long before Syria blew up?

That doesn't begin to address the complexity of governing Syria after Assad, but it's probably the necessary first step to even giving peace a chance.

I disagree.

The best hope for peace, imho, not just in Syria, but across the former Ottoman Empire and North Rim of Africa, is to completely balkanize the region along ethnic and religious lines. The current set of nation-states are hold-overs from the Sykes-Picot agreement (in the Levant and Mesopotamia) or from European colonial entities (Africa), inherently unstable, and prone to internal violence. Unless, of course, they are ruled by even more violent dictators, like Assad, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, etc, or by theocracies with near absolute power, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc.

 

[underguy1]

Your answer to everything seems to be insults - racist, nazi, capitalist, etc etc, ad infinitum, but no matter, I'll give you a lesson in realpolitik.

Russia has a small naval base at Tartus in Syria leased to them by Assad. They are terrified of losing it through a rebel victory in Syria. It is their only warm water port in the world not severely limited by geography and/or climate. America on the other hand has a strategic interest in either booting Russia out of Tartus , destroying the base, or rendering it useless. Russia's involvement in the war hurts her much more than the American involvement hurts the USA. US has the money to support it Russia doesn't.

The human suffering is regretable but as the Sunni Arabs are happy to support the rebels because it ties ISIS down, and Iran is happy to sacrifice its personnel to frustrate their moslem enemies. It is clear that moslems are 95% responsible for the deaths and if they chose to kill each other to the tune of 400,000 or so that's pretty much up to them.

The important thing is to eliminate Russia's ambitions in the Mediterranean. That is a legitimate objective of US foreign and strategic policy.

You are sick and twisted. This is Nazi level stuff.

And you have the geopolitics all wrong.

 

[underguy1]

I disagree.

The best hope for peace, imho, not just in Syria, but across the former Ottoman Empire and North Rim of Africa, is to completely balkanize the region along ethnic and religious lines. The current set of nation-states are hold-overs from the Sykes-Picot agreement (in the Levant and Mesopotamia) or from European colonial entities (Africa), inherently unstable, and prone to internal violence. Unless, of course, they are ruled by even more violent dictators, like Assad, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, etc, or by theocracies with near absolute power, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc.

Wow. The racism expressed on this board is astonishing.

 

[phrodeau]

You are sick and twisted. This is Nazi level stuff.

And you have the geopolitics all wrong.

Wow. The racism expressed on this board is astonishing.

Yet you go on providing nothing of importance.

 

[underguy1]

Yet you go on providing nothing of importance.

Yeah, killing millions of black and brown people isn't important to you.

Go back to view screen, prole.

 

[Rachel_X]

I disagree.

The best hope for peace, imho, not just in Syria, but across the former Ottoman Empire and North Rim of Africa, is to completely balkanize the region along ethnic and religious lines. The current set of nation-states are hold-overs from the Sykes-Picot agreement (in the Levant and Mesopotamia) or from European colonial entities (Africa), inherently unstable, and prone to internal violence. Unless, of course, they are ruled by even more violent dictators, like Assad, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, etc, or by theocracies with near absolute power, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc.

People are prone to violence anywhere that it is hot.
Heat makes people irritable.
Plus sand pisses people off. Anywhere there is sand, there are angry people.

The only way for lasting peace is to get rid of the sand and buy everyone a hand held fan.

 

[ryan8558]

People are prone to violence anywhere that it is hot.
Heat makes people irritable.
Plus sand pisses people off. Anywhere there is sand, there are angry people.

The only way for lasting peace is to get rid of the sand and buy everyone a hand held fan.

and swimming pools!

 

[eyerlives]

Yeah, killing millions of black and brown people isn't important to you.

Compared to how many white people either have been, are, or will be eternally killed by other white people...

...everyone of any other color should feel relatively spared from the actuality of The Wrath of the Cracker Man's Hand.

When one realizes whites of various stripes comprise maybe 20% of the world's population, some extraneous reason must exist to allow such crackerman domination of the majority of the world...

Let's face it: very generally speaking, those crackers are the most badass badasses the world has ever known, and race discrimination doesn't even serve as a condiment to their insatiable diets of death.

Speaking of which:

Human history has shown there is nothing more deadly to it than the progressive-minded, white, killing man, and one of those monsters' next mass-murder goals (this time via their climate-change/global warming world domination agenda) is total population control...

...and the target-rich people of color at the end of the barrel of that progressive gun are people not mentioned in the "black and brown" above:

http://2oqz471sa19h3vbwa53m33yj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/population-circle-chart.jpg

Huh.

I wonder if those image representations have anything to do with why progressive, climate change-mongering, überglobalist Billary needs to act such a wannabe badass with Putin, or with her public proclamations of how she will keep the South China Sea open for USSA warships to keep secured?

Nah, surely a progressive-minded white woman wouldn't dare be the actual cracker pimp of the progressive's agenda of total population control in the yellow part of the world were the majority of the planet's people live...

...right?



Hark!

The spiritual demands you get right with God or die...

...the secular demands you get right with individual liberty or be enslaved.

Let those with ears, hear.

BTW:

Just to stick the pathetic fork more into all the cracker progressives and their black racist piece of shit cousins:

Per the Tuskegee Institute, short of 4,000 blacks were lynched between 1888 and 1968...

...today, blacks kill just short of 4,000 of each other EVERY. SIX. MONTHS.

I hold no secular hope at all for cracker progressives given their world history so far...

...but if you black racist pieces of shit actually care for what you insist are your "people", you best drop all your own progressive enslavement now and start liberating your own 'hoods by cleaning out your own murderous shit, first.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I disagree.

The best hope for peace, imho, not just in Syria, but across the former Ottoman Empire and North Rim of Africa, is to completely balkanize the region along ethnic and religious lines. The current set of nation-states are hold-overs from the Sykes-Picot agreement (in the Levant and Mesopotamia) or from European colonial entities (Africa), inherently unstable, and prone to internal violence. Unless, of course, they are ruled by even more violent dictators, like Assad, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, etc, or by theocracies with near absolute power, like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc.

Actually, your reference to "internal violence," aka sectarian conflicts perhaps most notably between shia and sunni Muslims, is what I was thinking of when I wrote of the "complexity of governing."

With regard to your plan to balkanize, I would simply ask who you would suggest has the willingness and the power to force such a solution on the many different peoples directly affected by it.

And considering that the motivations propelling the hostilities held by all sides are not inclined to respect geographical borders, what does the "power to force such a solution" look like? Seems to me it would necessarily transcend the various individual balkanized governments.

Talk about an international policeman. Of the handful of countries big enough to wield such a stick, who's your choice?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If there is any hope for a lasting peace in Syria it probably involves a deal between Russia and the United States in which Assad is deposed and Russia gets to keep their silly little naval base in Tartus. We've lived with it for how long before Syria blew up?

That doesn't begin to address the complexity of governing Syria after Assad, but it's probably the necessary first step to even giving peace a chance.

Have we still not learned our lesson about removing the dictators that keep the peace?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Have we still not learned our lesson about removing the dictators that keep the peace?

Assad is your definition of a dictator who is keeping the peace?