shit's hitting the fan now

Where have you looked? Have you studied this or are you just talking shit?

I'm pretty sure I know about global more than you do. I lived global. You apparently don't even know what global is--it includes forces outside the United States. As I surmised, you didn't know what the hell you were posting about.

You're just another crack pot. I see someone up the line is offering you a tin hat. I suggest you take it.

The only global players who I've seen actively engage in the American elections have done so by either endorsing Trump or hacking into private American communications in favor of Trump. And on that basis alone, with an eye to what global players have done so, I wouldn't be voting for Trump.
 
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The only references I've seen on the global level on any active weighing in on the U.S. elections other than passing questions of "what in the hell are you people doing?" has been endorsements by despots of Trump and the Russians (our government says it's them) actively hacking and revealing private mail of only the Democratic candidate--in favor of the Republican candidate.

Soooo, what global conspiracy against Trump are you referring to? Citations please.

There are so many domestic and foreign wtf's over Trump it would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.
 
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LadyVer, I often wonder: what is your guy's take on the fact that you ended up with two such untrustworthy candidates, out of the entire pool of better options? Like Elizabeth Warren and so many others.

Because from what I was reading online and in the forum, a lot of americans don't trust them, and for them it's more of a "let's try to choose someone who would do less damage" as opposed to "let's choose the best candidate".

My take on that was the latest bill which allowed private groups (including corporations) to sponsorparties and candidates. Something that Wolf PAC has been trying to fight against (as I heard on TYT).
 
LadyVer, I often wonder: what is your guy's take on the fact that you ended up with two such untrustworthy candidates, out of the entire pool of better options? Like Elizabeth Warren and so many others.

Because from what I was reading online and in the forum, a lot of americans don't trust them, and for them it's more of a "let's try to choose someone who would do less damage" as opposed to "let's choose the best candidate".

My take on that was the latest bill which allowed private groups (including corporations) to sponsorparties and candidates. Something that Wolf PAC has been trying to fight against (as I heard on TYT).

My take is that Hillary Clinton is qualified to do the job, and the best in the pool of candidates. After 30 years of being villified, she hasn't once threatened an opponent with jail, inflamed mobs to lock up or Second Amendment an opponent, threatened the NYT for doing its job, asked Russia to hack an opponent, or threatened her party if she didn't get what she wanted. And she hasn't told anyone it's ok to call her daughter a piece of ass.

Although smart, tough, and experienced, Warren is not presidential material. Like Trump, she likes to use Twitter to argue and point fingers. I like Sanders but he didn't have the breadth of experience that Hillary has, and what was a negative issue for his candidacy was that he became a registered Democrat shortly before announcing his run. For anyone to expect Sanders to be treated with open arms by the DNC is extremely naive. Think about it. Why should they? You earn loyalty, don't switch parties right before an election to get it. And it took me a while to think this through because he was my first choice. Anyway, I fully expect Sanders and Hillary to work well together overall. I don't recall there being any other serious contenders. Maybe Martin O'Malley, but he dropped out.

I don't know enough about your last paragraph to be able to comment on.
 
LadyVer, I often wonder: what is your guy's take on the fact that you ended up with two such untrustworthy candidates, out of the entire pool of better options? Like Elizabeth Warren and so many others.

Because from what I was reading online and in the forum, a lot of americans don't trust them, and for them it's more of a "let's try to choose someone who would do less damage" as opposed to "let's choose the best candidate".
That's not really empirical data though. Because online, and with a pool of over 300 million people, you can always find "a lot" of anything.

With the electoral systemthe US has, electing a candidate that a plurality agrees is "the best" is a near impossibility. The top of the ticket is almost always a compromise, selected for broad acceptability, not high likeability. "Not my first choice, but good enough" has been a common theme for a long time. Obama was not liked by all Democrats in 2008.

That's what makes Trump an outlier. He managed to run away with the GOP nomination because he was VERY liked by a limited group, and the rest of the party were too undiciplined to coalesce around a conventional option in time..

My take on that was the latest bill which allowed private groups (including corporations) to sponsorparties and candidates. Something that Wolf PAC has been trying to fight against (as I heard on TYT).
What bill was that? Are you talking about Citizens United? Which is not a bill.
 
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My take is that Hillary Clinton is qualified to do the job, and the best in the pool of candidates. After 30 years of being villified, she hasn't once threatened an opponent with jail, inflamed mobs to lock up or Second Amendment an opponent, threatened the NYT for doing its job, asked Russia to hack an opponent, or threatened her party if she didn't get what she wanted. And she hasn't told anyone it's ok to call her daughter a piece of ass.

Although smart, tough, and experienced, Warren is not presidential material. Like Trump, she likes to use Twitter to argue and point fingers. I like Sanders but he didn't have the breadth of experience that Hillary has, and what was a negative issue for his candidacy was that he became a registered Democrat shortly before announcing his run. For anyone to expect Sanders to be treated with open arms by the DNC is extremely naive. Think about it. Why should they? You earn loyalty, don't switch parties right before an election to get it. And it took me a while to think this through because he was my first choice. Anyway, I fully expect Sanders and Hillary to work well together overall. I don't recall there being any other serious contenders. Maybe Martin O'Malley, but he dropped out.

I don't know enough about your last paragraph to be able to comment on.

I agree with all of this.

Nice post.
 
As a rule Americans sort themselves into thirds: one third on the left, one third on the right, and one third in the middle. Our Revolution was supported by one third of our Colonists. One third were Tories (future Canadians). And one third were Loyals with no appetite for battle. With me so far?

Trump won with a solid one third of the GOP, his competition split one third, and one third stayed home.

The GOP failed because its elite leadership hates the Tea Party base. The Tea Party base are butchers and bakers and candle makers, all the little people WALMART wants to crush. Sam Walton got rich because he bought millions of stuff from 1000s of small suppliers, his kids buy everything from China. Trump now owns American small business. He always understood the Tea Party is small business. Britain lost America because its WALMART (East India Tea Company) tried to destroy small business in America. The present struggle is small business vs WALMART. I mean,the Bush people back Hillary (once on the WALMART board).

Forecast: Beyond November we will destroy the elite ruling class or the nation will become 4-5 independent regions after civil war.
 
No one ever alleged Chelsea is a piece of ass, its so obvious she will never be a piece of ass. Piece of shit? Likely.

I think ivanka is a hot piece of ass. I would do nasty things to her. Same with chelsea. Both of them together. Stacked like a sexpot sammy. Let the creativity flow.

Creepy? Maybe.

I am not the father. No matter how old either of the hotties are, if they are products of my seed, the same talk is disgusting.
 
I don't know what you mean by a conspiracy, but to my way of thinking a conspiracy is a group of people (the smaller the better) with a high degree of unity and agreement on reaching a common goal which is quite often nefarious and requires planning and conniving in secret because most reasonable people would stridently oppose their activities -- particularly if they were illegal, which is typically pretty close to what most people mean when they use the word.

In other words, political policy objectives from socialism, communism and all the way over to fascism on the other extreme are not conspiratorial simply because I do not agree with them. And while conspiracies almost always operate in secret, merely planning strategy behind closed doors does not truly accurately describe what could fairly be called a conspiracy. Republican and Democratic strategists do the same.

Both the CFR and Partnership for a New American Economy are American non-profit organizations. The CFR boasts a membership of 4,900. PNAE claims over 500 members. The membership is constantly changing. It is essentially a bunch of rich people talking at each other who almost certainly never reach a consensus regarding the details of their respective mission statements, much less how to actually achieve it. For my money, there is really something missing from a good, old, sinister conspiracy when it publishes its mission statement on a public website. :rolleyes: They have arguably little influence over foreign governments no matter how many business councils they sit on and not much more impact over Congressional legislation.

If YOU know what they're up to, then both organizations are pretty shitty conspirators, if you catch my drift.

But quite apart from what lies they tell or their most venal of dreams, if you want me to be afraid of them, then tell me what they've actually achieved that has made my life a living hell. How are they going to starve me, impoverish me or kill me?

Until a threat is real, I'm not going to worry too much about it. When shitty ideas come up for actual implementation, I couldn't care less where they came from as long as there are enough people to piss on them and keep them from moving forward. I've never been disappointed that the most controversial ideas from both the left and the right have ever suffered from lack of stringent opposition.

Where's the beef?

Stop trying to corrupt this thread with common sense.
 
I wont use KY when I stick Hillary up your ass soon.

You're salivating at the thought of Mattel releasing a limited edition Hillary Barbie - all the crude things and orifices you'd subject it to; perhaps burying her up to her head in kitty litter box so you can bukkake her.

Along with a complimentary Trump Ken complete with Kung Fu Pussy Grip Action you could take with you on those occasions you do shower.
 
You're salivating at the thought of Mattel releasing a limited edition Hillary Barbie - all the crude things and orifices you'd subject it to; perhaps burying her up to her head in kitty litter box so you can bukkake her.

Along with a complimentary Trump Ken complete with Kung Fu Pussy Grip Action you could take with you on those occasions you do shower.

no, he wants a lifesize JJ Arms doll with pegging attachments bro.

Stew

http://www.spymall.com/investigators/Armes_doll.jpg
 
Winners don't whine and make excuses. Losers blame everyone but themselves. Which candidate sounds like a luzer? The Donald's latest excuse:

Donald Trump Has This Mexican Billionaire in His Crosshairs
Donald Trump has reportedly decided who is to blame for the wave of sexual harassment and assault allegations that have battered his campaign in recent days.

The Republican presidential candidate plans to say that Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim is working in cahoots with the Hillary Clinton campaign to produce the sexual assault and harassment stories that have appeared in outlets like the New York Times, according to the Wall Street Journal.
It's those damn Mexicans again. Build that wall! (for them to dig more tunnels under) Make-em pay! (threaten them with war) It's not my fault! (the dog ate my homework)
 
You're salivating at the thought of Mattel releasing a limited edition Hillary Barbie - all the crude things and orifices you'd subject it to; perhaps burying her up to her head in kitty litter box so you can bukkake her.

Along with a complimentary Trump Ken complete with Kung Fu Pussy Grip Action you could take with you on those occasions you do shower.

utter sophistication.

You tell'em, bro!
 
Quick question, Emerson.
I took you off ignore because I'm really curious to see how you think.

Do you ever ask yourself how you come across to other Litsters?
You being a 50 years old 'family man' who appears to be obsessed with a female poster, and is trying to constantly get her attention with all these little cartoons and puns and 'insults'?
 
Winners don't whine and make excuses. Losers blame everyone but themselves. Which candidate sounds like a luzer? The Donald's latest excuse:

Donald Trump Has This Mexican Billionaire in His Crosshairs It's those damn Mexicans again. Build that wall! (for them to dig more tunnels under) Make-em pay! (threaten them with war) It's not my fault! (the dog ate my homework)

Pity that Trump only has the Russians to be working in tandem with.
 
I'll tell you how you come across, Emerson:

Doesn't matter what you and I know to be the driver behind your odd obsession with my personna (hate and xenophobia)
You come across as silly and desperate.

Just like when I'm trying to pull the leg of some male poster -not here, obviously- and I'm obviously enjoying myself, and then clueless Emerson comes in trying to steal my attention. The eternal clueless party pooper; nevermind the fact that him and Que completely misread the signals.

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He's not answering lol.
I noticed that he quickly moved to he Blurt thread and posted some "it's windy and the yellow leaves are falling" poetic nonsense :rolleyes: , right after my first comment addressed to him.
 
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Quick question, Emerson.
I took you off ignore because I'm really curious to see how you think.

Do you ever ask yourself how you come across to other Litsters?
You being a 50 years old 'family man' who appears to be obsessed with a female poster, and is trying to constantly get her attention with all these little cartoons and puns and 'insults'?


Man I missed an entire history.

I'm just over a year here.
 
I'll tell you how you come across, Emerson:

Doesn't matter what you and I know to be the driver behind your odd obsession with my personna (hate and xenophobia)
You come across as silly and desperate.

Just like when I'm trying to pull the leg of some male poster -not here, obviously- and I'm obviously enjoying myself, and then clueless Emerson comes in trying to steal my attention. The eternal clueless party pooper; nevermind the fact that him and Que completely misread the signals.

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He's not answering lol.
I noticed that he quickly moved to he Blurt thread and posted some "it's windy and the yellow leaves are falling" poetic nonsense :rolleyes: , right after my first comment addressed to him.

I think the answer would be, what business is it of yours about who he posts to bro?

Stew
 
Quick question, Emerson.
I took you off ignore because I'm really curious to see how you think.

Do you ever ask yourself how you come across to other Litsters? ...

I'll tell you how you come across, Emerson:

Cupcake, you don't get to answer for "other Litsters". When we want to hear from a representative of the Dingleberry clique, we'll let you know.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.
 
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