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The Straight Guys that Fantasize about Cock Club! Part 2
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badonkadoku
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now let me start off by saying I am bisexual, but I don't understand this, how can you be a straight man and fantasize or fool around with another man and still call yourself straight or heterosexual, that is an oxymoron, because the definition of straight is ...
In my experience, straight certainly means "exclusively attracted to the opposite sex." Thus, a straight woman is attracted to men,and not women. It would be incorrect to describe a woman who has been involved with both men and women as straight and vice versa. ... meaning word-usage.. someone that is attracted to or fantasizes about the same sex is bisexual there's nothing wrong with that because I am bisexual. So it seems like these are men having problems admitting to themselves or others that they are bisexual....
Ok, so you're bi...(which itself is a rather narrow and misguided self-designation, since attraction is more of a continuum, but I digress. To me, 'bi' just means that a person is now alert to the latency of their ability to respond further along the continuum than they first knew).
Imagine that you were in a bar, and a very attractive apparent girl offered to buy you a drink. You have a nice long conversation, it starts to get a little steamy, and she offers to adjourn to her place.
There you see, eventually, that she is a t-girl/shemale/whatever you like to call them. Still has a nice, sizeable cock, but you're so horny, you don't mind that you were deceived (whether by yourself, or her, not really important).
If you're being honest, who were you initially attracted to?
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Thanks Cy. Lol
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you are wrong it is very important, if I was deceived, I would be pissed off. It is wrong to deceive someone in that way, a lot of people expect to get what they thought they were getting and not something else, but I won't have to worry about that situation happening. Because I only play with my Sister Wives Currently... to answer your question I would have walked out, I don't play that deception game,..
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Whoops. You're right. Sorry. I need to read more closely.
Still, my statement that 8"+ is the exception and not the rule still holds. Between 5 and 6 inches is average.
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You are correct - 8" is a lotta meat - one would be a lucky man to have that!
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now let me start off by saying I am bisexual, but I don't understand this, how can you be a straight man and fantasize or fool around with another man and still call yourself straight or heterosexual, that is an oxymoron, because the definition of straight is ...
In my experience, straight certainly means "exclusively attracted to the opposite sex." Thus, a straight woman is attracted to men,and not women. It would be incorrect to describe a woman who has been involved with both men and women as straight and vice versa. ... meaning word-usage.. someone that is attracted to or fantasizes about the same sex is bisexual there's nothing wrong with that because I am bisexual. So it seems like these are men having problems admitting to themselves or others that they are bisexual...
Well said Tara, that's been my opinion as well
I totally agree with you both. I'm bi and have been for as long as I can remember. But I kinda wish we didn't have to use labels. Can't we be free to love who we want, irrespective of gender? I have loved men and women. And wouldn't trade any of those experiences.Well said Tara, that's been my opinion as well
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Thanks Tara
I love straight talk. My first homo experience; a sissy was riding my cock. Hers flopping against my chest. So cute; had to kiss it. I thought to myself, " you are bisexual now."
now let me start off by saying I am bisexual, but I don't understand this, how can you be a straight man and fantasize or fool around with another man and still call yourself straight or heterosexual, that is an oxymoron, because the definition of straight is ...
In my experience, straight certainly means "exclusively attracted to the opposite sex." Thus, a straight woman is attracted to men,and not women. It would be incorrect to describe a woman who has been involved with both men and women as straight and vice versa. ... meaning word-usage.. someone that is attracted to or fantasizes about the same sex is bisexual there's nothing wrong with that because I am bisexual. So it seems like these are men having problems admitting to themselves or others that they are bisexual...
I love straight talk. My first homo experience; a sissy was riding my cock. Hers flopping against my chest. So cute; had to kiss it. I thought to myself, " you are bisexual now."
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We, regrettably, live in a world of labels. Some, we can't avoid, though some try: male, female, black, white, American, European, etc. Labels help us define who we are. However, they also help others draw conclusions and judgments, based on various interpretations of those labels. Labels are also an easy way for those who must do so to exercise personal prejudices. Attempting to avoid a particular label is an attempt to avoid persecution by those to whom said label is problematic for them, whether it be a personal barrier or a societal one.
There is also the dichotomy that exists that erroneously assumes that it acceptable for women to be truly bisexual, but that men must be either straight or gay, with nothing in between.
Given the closed minded way much of our society views sexuality, it's hardly surprising that some people try to avoid labeling themselves in certain ways.
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Everything must have some kind of designation Or label whatever you want to call it. You wouldn't walk into a supermarket And all the cans and packages had no labels on them of What they were, It lets people know what they are getting.....
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Oh, absolutely, some labels are certainly necessary. However, there are certain labels that also get some people all bent out of shape, for whatever reason.
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No, I meant, whether it was you who allowed yourself to fall victim to your own assumptions, vs. the other person meaning to deceive you,
THAT distinction doesn't really matter for the purpose of the scenario.
Anyway, you didn't really answer my question, which was simply to invite you to contemplate who you were attracted to. Do you think all trans people are just in it to deceive? No, I'd assume not.
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Been on silverdaddies for a few months now looking for the same ~ have not found a good / sane / local married guy to experiment with
Anyone rose had luck there?
From Montréal here
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Ok ~ so perhaps some of you can shed some light on my point of view / situation
This is an honest post of how I feel & it would be great to get some well thought out responses
I have never been curious about bi play until recently (since about two years only) I've been masturbsting since I was 5 (yes I remember) and cumming since 12, and watching porn (video / print / online) since about 16 ... from day one and to this day it's always women in all shapes & sizes that turn me on exclusively (again 100% honest feeling)
However, I have always had a high sexual appetite and a very open minded mentality ~ I have been with older women, younger women (even escorts of both), as well as 3 somes, 4 somes, couples swap, doming, gang bangs, and orgys (all sans interest or experience in any m/m play whatsoever)
Now however (again, since about two years) ~ I consider being in the company of one or more men as we watch porn and JO to be a horny and exciting way to pass the time & in my horny state I (believe) I would be ok with touching another man's cock and letting him touch mine ... at the extreme even try oral just out of curiosity / horniness
I have never been & very sure that I will never fall "in love" with a man ~ I am not attracted to their eyes, faces, hands, feet, mouths, or any other body part besides their cocks...I can't cuddle / kiss / caress / hug / top / bottom / be a sissy / be femme / call any man sweetie or baby or darling etc.
What can't men fool around now and then without having the stigma of losing their herosexuality? ( frankly I believe it's all on the spectrum anyways – some are more than others)
I feel that bi isn't the right label for me (not even sure why there should there even be a label)
I consider myself & think I'm proud to call myself a straight but sexually open minded / fluid man...
My 2 cents
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I love how you have twisted and blown out of proportion my original question that is because you couldn't defend it. And the original question was How can a person call themselves straight if they are fantasizing or fooling around with the same sex... there is a definition for the word straight..
What a great post. And I totally agree with your point of view that we don't need labels to enjoy the people we enjoy. I've actually fallen in love with two men in my life and enjoyed extended sexual encounters with them both. So I guess I have to accept the label of "bisexual". And as long as anyone wants to think of me that way, I'm OK with it. And thank goodness for your open minded viewpoint on all of this. I hope you can continue to enjoy your sexual adventures, be they with women or with men.
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Why must those who don't understand pollute things?
For people who can only conceive of sexuality fitting into a few neat boxes - hetero, homo or bi, it must be hard to reconcile what you haven't experienced yourself. Some people can't fathom even trying to walk a few feet in someone else's shoes.
Sexuality, like most other traits, is a spectrum. With infinite gradations between the poles. And the poles are not discrete limits. There are plenty of people who do not have sexual interest in only one sex, nor have equal sexual interest in both sexes (simplifying to just male/female for purposes of my point).
I have always been most accurately labeled as heterosexual, with some mild attraction to women, which has waxed and waned over time. I have never considered myself bisexual, as to me this implies near equal preference, or at least wanting the same things from both men and women. There is no comparing the two for me - I crave cock and cum from dawn until dusk, and only occasionally think of a woman sexually. I have only mildly experimented with women on a few occasions, and it was enough to satisfy my curiosity (only kissing, grinding and touching - no penetration or cunnilingus).
I want everything fron men - every inch of their bodies and every imaginable sexual act (excluding a hot lunch). I am also only emotionally satisfied with a commmited romantic connection with a man (which thankfully I have with my husband). I have no desire for a romantic or sexual relationship with a woman - the idea of being with a woman sexually is exciting to me, but the reality not as much. And I only enjoy the fantasy if it includes a man watching and participating. The only scenario where I'd really want a sexual encounter with a woman is where it is as much for my male partner's satisfaction as my own.
I am only one point on the spectrum, but I can assure you that I am not bi or gay and in denial. I find men who are curious about sucking or even fucking cock highly erotic, because I relate to the appeal of the male organs and the exquisite taste of cum. My ideal man would be kinky or bi-curious, if a label must be used, but not truly bisexual, as I like that it is a stretch for them, as opposed to a solid preference. Plus I am too greedy to worry about competing for their attention with a man.
I'm not trying to speak for any of the men here, or say that their preferences are comparable to mine - just trying to illustrate that sexuality is not limited to a few acceptable possibilities. It is so painful when people insist on telling other people what they want - as in, "c'mon dude, just admit you're gay."
I don't understand why people feel the need to pick apart things thay they can't relate to. I don't relate to many fetishes, kinks, and orientations, but I respect that we are here to enjoy and encourage one another. I personally don't "get" the appeal of incest, but I have better things to do than go shit on threads that I don't "get."
For people who can only conceive of sexuality fitting into a few neat boxes - hetero, homo or bi, it must be hard to reconcile what you haven't experienced yourself. Some people can't fathom even trying to walk a few feet in someone else's shoes.
Sexuality, like most other traits, is a spectrum. With infinite gradations between the poles. And the poles are not discrete limits. There are plenty of people who do not have sexual interest in only one sex, nor have equal sexual interest in both sexes (simplifying to just male/female for purposes of my point).
I have always been most accurately labeled as heterosexual, with some mild attraction to women, which has waxed and waned over time. I have never considered myself bisexual, as to me this implies near equal preference, or at least wanting the same things from both men and women. There is no comparing the two for me - I crave cock and cum from dawn until dusk, and only occasionally think of a woman sexually. I have only mildly experimented with women on a few occasions, and it was enough to satisfy my curiosity (only kissing, grinding and touching - no penetration or cunnilingus).
I want everything fron men - every inch of their bodies and every imaginable sexual act (excluding a hot lunch). I am also only emotionally satisfied with a commmited romantic connection with a man (which thankfully I have with my husband). I have no desire for a romantic or sexual relationship with a woman - the idea of being with a woman sexually is exciting to me, but the reality not as much. And I only enjoy the fantasy if it includes a man watching and participating. The only scenario where I'd really want a sexual encounter with a woman is where it is as much for my male partner's satisfaction as my own.
I am only one point on the spectrum, but I can assure you that I am not bi or gay and in denial. I find men who are curious about sucking or even fucking cock highly erotic, because I relate to the appeal of the male organs and the exquisite taste of cum. My ideal man would be kinky or bi-curious, if a label must be used, but not truly bisexual, as I like that it is a stretch for them, as opposed to a solid preference. Plus I am too greedy to worry about competing for their attention with a man.
I'm not trying to speak for any of the men here, or say that their preferences are comparable to mine - just trying to illustrate that sexuality is not limited to a few acceptable possibilities. It is so painful when people insist on telling other people what they want - as in, "c'mon dude, just admit you're gay."
I don't understand why people feel the need to pick apart things thay they can't relate to. I don't relate to many fetishes, kinks, and orientations, but I respect that we are here to enjoy and encourage one another. I personally don't "get" the appeal of incest, but I have better things to do than go shit on threads that I don't "get."
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Thank you, Likes2Watch, you said it better and less confrontationally that I was evidently able.... <sigh>. Apologies to VampirTara
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BTW, I read back over the posts that I responded to.... there was never any question, unless it was a rhetorical, not genuine.
Yesterday
I arranged to meet a younger man after chatting via email for a couple of weeks. My hope and intention would have been another novice married man such as myself but that seemed as though it was never going to happen. The guy I met (in a public place near to and then to his place) is an experienced gay man. Apart from that not being my ideal in terms of preference he had quite a hairy body and enjoys kissing. It was never my intention to kiss a man but I went with the flow for his sake. He was going to let me suck his cock after all.
Long and short of it is that, without going into the full details, we sucked each other endlessly. I discovered I have a weak gag reflex so it was rather fortunate for my first that he had quite a small cock. Problem is I was so nervous, actually shaking like a kitten, that I was unable to raise a full hard on (this had been a concern of mine due to nerves) and, although leaking pre cum like a tap, managed only a fairly weak semi which as time progressed seemed to get worse as I began suffering performance anxieties. Just my fucking luck I thought!! Anyway as much as I was determined to get him off his concern was for me bless him and neither of us had an orgasm!
So yes, I have sucked my first cock just yesterday morning. Did I enjoy it? Well given the above it might surprise you to hear that I did but with reservations due to the issues indicated. Will I do it again? I have to, I really want to but I got so pissed off with myself for failing to relax. He wants to see me again but I think I need a man who doesn't want to kiss and isn't so hairy. It's strange because I have always shied away from the idea of being with a gay man and when invited in the past on different sites I have declined. The reason being that I have always felt I would be a disappointment to an experienced and/or gay man. Yesterday may have suggested I was right and getting it on with another novice might have been so much easier as both of us would be experimenting together and perhaps would feel less pressure to 'perform' to a 'standard'.
I don't know but there you have the details of my first experience for what it's worth.
Don't be surprised to see this copied and pasted to similar threads on Lit.
I arranged to meet a younger man after chatting via email for a couple of weeks. My hope and intention would have been another novice married man such as myself but that seemed as though it was never going to happen. The guy I met (in a public place near to and then to his place) is an experienced gay man. Apart from that not being my ideal in terms of preference he had quite a hairy body and enjoys kissing. It was never my intention to kiss a man but I went with the flow for his sake. He was going to let me suck his cock after all.
Long and short of it is that, without going into the full details, we sucked each other endlessly. I discovered I have a weak gag reflex so it was rather fortunate for my first that he had quite a small cock. Problem is I was so nervous, actually shaking like a kitten, that I was unable to raise a full hard on (this had been a concern of mine due to nerves) and, although leaking pre cum like a tap, managed only a fairly weak semi which as time progressed seemed to get worse as I began suffering performance anxieties. Just my fucking luck I thought!! Anyway as much as I was determined to get him off his concern was for me bless him and neither of us had an orgasm!
So yes, I have sucked my first cock just yesterday morning. Did I enjoy it? Well given the above it might surprise you to hear that I did but with reservations due to the issues indicated. Will I do it again? I have to, I really want to but I got so pissed off with myself for failing to relax. He wants to see me again but I think I need a man who doesn't want to kiss and isn't so hairy. It's strange because I have always shied away from the idea of being with a gay man and when invited in the past on different sites I have declined. The reason being that I have always felt I would be a disappointment to an experienced and/or gay man. Yesterday may have suggested I was right and getting it on with another novice might have been so much easier as both of us would be experimenting together and perhaps would feel less pressure to 'perform' to a 'standard'.
I don't know but there you have the details of my first experience for what it's worth.
Don't be surprised to see this copied and pasted to similar threads on Lit.
Thank you. In the right circumstances I will try again. I certainly want to.
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Always inspiring to see a fellow litster taking a dream of something into doing it. Congrats mate.
Always inspiring to see a fellow litster taking a dream of something into doing it. Congrats mate.
Thanks Simon. Was nerve wracking but has to be done. Well for some it has to.
