The Trump Campaign #2: The Best Thread On The GB, Believe Me
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Leaked Emails Show That Trump Was a Tool Used by the Hillary Campaign From Day One
http://www.redstate.com/brandon_mor...how-trump-tool-used-hillary-campaign-day-one/
The hacked emails released by Wikileaks shows an interesting tidbit about how the Democrats looked at the idea of a Trump candidacy, and you can safely see that of all the candidates Hillary actively wanted to face, Trump was on the list.
Calling them the "pied piper" candidates, team Hillary describes Trump, Cruz, and Carson as nominees that could - if handled properly - make the extreme the mainstream.
In short, the Republicans have been played. Trump was a unknowing puppet for Hillary from the get-go, and the right - though some had very strong suspicions - didn't know it.
http://www.redstate.com/brandon_mor...how-trump-tool-used-hillary-campaign-day-one/
The hacked emails released by Wikileaks shows an interesting tidbit about how the Democrats looked at the idea of a Trump candidacy, and you can safely see that of all the candidates Hillary actively wanted to face, Trump was on the list.
Calling them the "pied piper" candidates, team Hillary describes Trump, Cruz, and Carson as nominees that could - if handled properly - make the extreme the mainstream.
In short, the Republicans have been played. Trump was a unknowing puppet for Hillary from the get-go, and the right - though some had very strong suspicions - didn't know it.
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The Republicans had a field of 17. They nominated Trump for a variety of reasons, many of them having to do with the sheer size of the field, but mostly because he speaks to their collective id. It's become a party that's all about revenge on their perceived oppressors, epitomized by a black president.
As for the Democrats, it's obvious in retrospect that Hillary would have been vulnerable to someone who wasn't a socialist in their 70s. But when you add up the massive hits they took to their bench (particularly in 2010), and the fact that no woman wanted to run against Clinton, she had a pretty easy road.
She's gotten very lucky, but almost every recent president had luck going for them at key points.
The turning point has happened. Trump is hemorrhaging support from his own party. Those who have disavowed him can't very well come back and change their minds now.
There's scuttlebutt to the effect that he's going to go way negative tonight and attack the Clintons personally, which I'm sure will satisfy a certain percentage of his remaining supporters (see above). He gave a sneak preview of that in his ridiculous "apology" on Friday night. But that tactic rarely goes over well in a town hall setting.
Their goal now is to save the Senate. Trump is a lost cause. (If Congress was still in session, they would be smart to finally vote on the Garland nomination. Too late, dipshits.)
What I'm really looking forward to is the Republican debates in 2020, when one of Mike Pence's opponents brings up that he ran on the same ticket with Trump, and he just keeps shaking his head, "No, that never happened."
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People still wonder why I smack him around at 5am. It's a great way to start the day!
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We didn't really need stolen e-mails to tell us any of this. They were scared to death of Rubio. They were worried about Walker, a Midwesterner who could maybe appeal to the Republican geographic base (I still don't totally understand how he could tank so badly). And they were somewhat concerned about Kasich, although they correctly figured that he couldn't get the nomination as the GOP nominating process currently stands.
But Trump's vulnerabilities outside of the bubble of The Island of Wingnut Toys were always obvious.
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The major turning point was yesterday, with the en masse departures of Republican leaders from the train. There could be another major turning point going back the other way tonight (I don't see it, though. The Clinton team is orchestrating the attack; Trump's camp is in disarray and their candidate is a loose cannon anyway) or later. But the big whammy was yesterday. Unless Trump has some miracle up his sleeve, it's death by a thousand cuts from here on out.
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I would love to see Trump launch into a tirade about Monica Lewinsky, and watch the entire town hall audience quietly stand and walk out of the room.
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Here is a must watch:
NBC's Steve Schmidt Excoriates GOP's "Intellectual Rot" For Empowering Donald Trump
What this exposes though is much deeper, and goes to the Republican Party as an institution. This candidacy. The magnitude of its disgrace to the country is almost impossible, I think, to articulate. But it has exposed the intellectual rot in the Republican Party. It has exposed at a massive level the hypocrisy, the modern day money changers in the temple like Jerry Falwell Jr. And, so this party to go forward, and to represent a conservative vision for America, has great soul searching to do. And what we have seen in the -- and the danger for all of these candidates -- is over the course the last year, these candidates who have repeatedly put their party ahead of their country, denying what is so obviously clear to anybody who's watching about his complete and total, manifest unfitness for this office.
- Steve Schmidt
NBC's Steve Schmidt Excoriates GOP's "Intellectual Rot" For Empowering Donald Trump
What this exposes though is much deeper, and goes to the Republican Party as an institution. This candidacy. The magnitude of its disgrace to the country is almost impossible, I think, to articulate. But it has exposed the intellectual rot in the Republican Party. It has exposed at a massive level the hypocrisy, the modern day money changers in the temple like Jerry Falwell Jr. And, so this party to go forward, and to represent a conservative vision for America, has great soul searching to do. And what we have seen in the -- and the danger for all of these candidates -- is over the course the last year, these candidates who have repeatedly put their party ahead of their country, denying what is so obviously clear to anybody who's watching about his complete and total, manifest unfitness for this office.
- Steve Schmidt
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I disagree that Tromp's rise and fall are due to Clintonian plotting (although they do scheme). And GOP intellectual rot was self-inflicted in many decades of reality-denial and hate-fear-lies propaganda. Shouting real loud about stuff that ain't so don't make it true. But shouting that bullshit does attract audiences -- who can be sold to advertisers.
Faux Nuze is IMHO the major player here, making tons of money whilst pushing impossible politics -- the politics of intractable domination, not compromise and governance. The GOP let themselves be played by Murdoch & Co. whose 'conservatism' is corporate and uncaring about the left-behinds. Faux's audience are the suckers.
HRC will indeed be friendlier to corporations (including News Corp / Faux) than Tromp would be. She Murdoch's girl. Surprised?
Faux Nuze is IMHO the major player here, making tons of money whilst pushing impossible politics -- the politics of intractable domination, not compromise and governance. The GOP let themselves be played by Murdoch & Co. whose 'conservatism' is corporate and uncaring about the left-behinds. Faux's audience are the suckers.
HRC will indeed be friendlier to corporations (including News Corp / Faux) than Tromp would be. She Murdoch's girl. Surprised?
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Totally disagree. Trump is imploding all on his own, mostly because he can't help himself. How he even still has as much support as he does is rather shocking as he has shown himself to be utterly unfit for the office.
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I fail to see how that disagrees with anything I've post . . . but OK, then.
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I totally disagreed with that point. Otherwise I would have addressed anything else.
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OK, you've still lost me. But that's fine.
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It's not that he's unfit. We've had some real idiots in office.
He's just not all groomed and polished like the professional elites who have wanted to be POTUS since they were 4 have been pursuing.
He hasn't been doing all he could to not appear human his entire life like HRC.
Why does he have so much support? Because people who support him don't think being a SJW first and foremost is the top priority of POTUS.
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He is unfit.
He clearly does not have the temperament for it. That much is beyond dispute.
He has no experience, no understanding of international politics and lies even more than Hillary does.
This has nothing to do with being a SJW and everything to do with the fact that he is an utterly disgraceful man who has been successful in politics by appealing to the worst part of human nature, fear.
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Nothing few things beyond scientific laws are beyond dispute.
Tempement is a buzzword, and an inaccurate one at that. Especially if anyone who's been around HRC that isn't getting paid by her is to be believed. Apparently she's come unhinged and raged the fuck out in spectacular fashion more than a few times.
The real problem with Trump is that he is crass and doesn't give a fuck what other folks think about us.
It's not his temperament the globalist NeoLibz fear, it's his nationalism.
Neither did Obama but you weren't singing that tune 8 years ago. In fact I'm rather certain you argued that very point didn't matter at all.
Since when was being a liar a problem for anyone in politics?
Oh bullshit, the hypocrisy oozing from the DJT inflamed buttholes of special snowflake SJW's this election cycle is absolutely OFF THE CHARTS.
He's not anymore disgraceful than the last several shit bags we've put in the WH and if HRC really is better than him as a human being it ain't by any sort of margin you should be gloating about.
She's absolute fuckin' scum. She's just better at keeping her robot act up while the cameras are rolling.
And HRC hasn't? LMFAO......HRC's entire fucking campaign is based off of fear mongering. DJT and Putin will come git ya if you don't elect me!!!
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An old tape of Trump confessing sexual assault tipped the balance. But there were already tapes of him saying he wanted to fuck his daughter and it's okay to call her a piece of ass. Why didn't THOSE provoke GOP outrage? Why did oh-so-principled GOPs stand with him as he called for treason, insurrection, assassination of political opponents, and flouting conservative dogma?
"A shiver ran through the conservatives, frantically looking for a spine to run up." --Oliver Brown
"A shiver ran through the conservatives, frantically looking for a spine to run up." --Oliver Brown
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Because up until now he had never mentioned a vagina. Republicans refuse to have anything to do with vaginas because they don't know what they are.
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Well, those who were dumb enough to support him from the beginning with what was already known of his public persona obviously aren't quick thinkers. I'm just happy that they got around to "getting it" before kickoff tonight.
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I am voting for him.
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