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Cold hearted Mike Pence refuses to pardon a man wrongly convicted and proven innocent
Just what we need for a Vice Dick!
Just what we need for a Vice Dick!
Mike (The Dickhead) Pence
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MichaelinChina
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and just the kind of guy who Trump wants!
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Cooper has been released, so his pardon is probably pending until after the election. He definitely should get one, although I don't know so much about his overall history, except he did plead guilty. https://us.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sea...=10.0&os=Windows+10+Home&p=keith+cooper+pence
ETA: Why do you cite such an obviously biased source? Cooper's case should be strong enough to use something more neutral.
ETA: Why do you cite such an obviously biased source? Cooper's case should be strong enough to use something more neutral.
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...he-driving-life-and-death-of-philando-castile
Philando Castile's name gets dropped into the debate
October 4, 2016
Philando Castile died because of stupidity on the part of a police officer.
The victim was cooperative, polite, calm, and obedient.
He followed ever order.
It got him killed.
The man who was shot and killed by police last night in a suburb of St. Paul, Minn., had spent more than a decade working for the same school district from which he graduated from high school. Philando Castile as well-liked by students and staff, according to St. Paul Public Schools.
"Mr. Castile was promoted to a supervisory position two years ago and was currently working in one of our schools during the summer term."
"Colleagues describe him as a team player who maintained great relationships with staff and students alike. He had a cheerful disposition and his colleagues enjoyed working with him. He was quick to greet former coworkers with a smile and hug."
"One coworker said, 'Kids loved him. He was smart, over-qualified. He was quiet, respectful, and kind. I knew him as warm and funny; he called me his 'wing man.' He wore a shirt and tie to his supervisor interview and said his goal was to one day 'sit on the other side of this table.'
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ered-by-st-paul-public-schools-kids-loved-him
Was Castile targeted by police? Or was he just a careless or unlucky driver?
An NPR analysis of those records shows that the 32-year-old cafeteria worker who was shot and killed by a police officer during a traffic stop in a St. Paul, Minn., suburb
Of all of the stops, only six of them were things a police officer would notice from outside a car — things like speeding or having a broken muffler.
The records show that Castile spent most of his driving life fighting tickets
Three months after that first stop, for example, his license was suspended and he went into his first spiral: Police stopped him on Jan. 8, 2003. They stopped him on Feb. 3 and on Feb. 12 and Feb. 26 and on March 4.
Castile was the "classic case" of what criminologists have called "net widening," or the move by local authorities to criminalize more and more aspects of regular life.
"It is in particular a way that people of color and the poor are victimized on a daily basis," Gonzalez Van Cleve said.
Many times, both Gonzalez Van Cleve and Sandvick agree, the system leaves citizens with no good choices — having to pick, for instance, whether to pay a fine or pay for car insurance.
Castile's driving problems often appeared to be triggered by something small — a problem with his license plate or blocking an intersection. When he couldn't keep up with the fines, his license would get suspended, and he'd keep driving.
One six-year period in particular — from 2006 to 2012 — stands out. Castile was stopped 29 times. Sometimes he was fined $270, sometimes $150, but it kept adding up. He soon amassed more than $5,000 in fines.
Philando Castile.
The July 6 stop was his last.
The head of the Minneapolis NAACP, Nekima Levy-Pounds, compared the situation in the Twin Cities to Ferguson, Mo.
Exploiting the local population to get money to pay the police, and get the money it takes to run a police station, and keep police cars on the road.
Everyone has heard stories about drivers getting nailed for fines, when there was no cause for getting stopped, or getting fined.
You have police officers in a tiny isolated station, nabbing people from the city.
St. Anthony police data shows disproportionate arrests of blacks
July 13, 2016
July 14, 2016
An analysis of St. Anthony police data shows that the department arrested more blacks than whites this year, despite blacks being a small fraction of the population — and let a comparatively larger percentage of whites off with a warning on traffic stops.
The data released by St. Anthony this week shows that, of the department’s 994 arrests made through early July this year, 47 percent of the suspects were black, compared with 46 percent who were white. Ten arrests did not include race data.
According to the most recent U.S. Census data, the three cities the department patrols — St. Anthony, Lauderdale and Falcon Heights — are cumulatively 7 percent black.
When it came to warnings at traffic stops, however, 17 percent of those let off with a warning last year were black, compared to 67 percent who were white.
http://www.twincities.com/2016/07/1...ata-shows-disproportionate-arrests-of-blacks/
NEKIMA LEVY-POUNDS: Well, we don’t know very much about the St. Anthony Police Department. It’s a rather small department. And there is a strip of land that is in a rather strange place, right outside of the city limits of St. Paul, that the St. Anthony main police department has jurisdiction over. They’re actually a Minneapolis police department. It’s not the same as the—as the MPD, the Minneapolis Police Department, but they are actually located in Northeast Minneapolis. And so, many of us were surprised to learn that that strip of land was their jurisdiction and that they actually were responsible for killing Philando Castile.
AMY GOODMAN: This is some of the most astounding footage we have seen. Almost in real time, it is live-streaming. She is actually protecting herself by doing this, with her boyfriend dying next to her and her four-year-old daughter in the back of the car. And then, when she is ordered out of the car, she, also a victim, having experienced this—she is ordered to walk backwards? Is this your understanding? And she’s handcuffed?
NEKIMA LEVY-POUNDS: Yes.
AMY GOODMAN: She’s with her four-year-old daughter and put in a police car, as her boyfriend is dying in the car?
NEKIMA LEVY-POUNDS: Yes. Yes. She was being treated like a criminal, which, unfortunately, is not unusual in these types of cases. So, if you look at what happened to Tamir Rice’s sister in Cleveland, Ohio, when he was killed a couple of years ago, his sister was—his 14-year-old sister was actually tackled to the ground, placed in handcuffs and placed in the back of a squad car as she ran to her dying brother. Here in Minneapolis, after Jamar Clark was killed, there were dozens of African-American witnesses on the scene. When the police arrived, they intimidated the witnesses. They sprayed them with mace and pepper spray. They pulled guns on them, and they physically pushed them. So, it is not uncommon to treat black victims and witnesses as criminals in these types of cases.
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/16371
She streamed the death of the victim, live.
She saved her life by keeping connected.
The police could not spin the story.
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/07/07/reports-officer-involved-shooting-falcon-heights
Officer: Fuck!
Officer: [Yells, screams “fuck” multiple times.]
Officer curses the victim using racist slurs.
Where is the cell phone, that relayed the scene to the internet ?
Philando Castile's name gets dropped into the debate
October 4, 2016
Philando Castile died because of stupidity on the part of a police officer.
The victim was cooperative, polite, calm, and obedient.
He followed ever order.
It got him killed.
The man who was shot and killed by police last night in a suburb of St. Paul, Minn., had spent more than a decade working for the same school district from which he graduated from high school. Philando Castile as well-liked by students and staff, according to St. Paul Public Schools.
"Mr. Castile was promoted to a supervisory position two years ago and was currently working in one of our schools during the summer term."
"Colleagues describe him as a team player who maintained great relationships with staff and students alike. He had a cheerful disposition and his colleagues enjoyed working with him. He was quick to greet former coworkers with a smile and hug."
"One coworker said, 'Kids loved him. He was smart, over-qualified. He was quiet, respectful, and kind. I knew him as warm and funny; he called me his 'wing man.' He wore a shirt and tie to his supervisor interview and said his goal was to one day 'sit on the other side of this table.'
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ered-by-st-paul-public-schools-kids-loved-him
Was Castile targeted by police? Or was he just a careless or unlucky driver?
An NPR analysis of those records shows that the 32-year-old cafeteria worker who was shot and killed by a police officer during a traffic stop in a St. Paul, Minn., suburb
Of all of the stops, only six of them were things a police officer would notice from outside a car — things like speeding or having a broken muffler.
The records show that Castile spent most of his driving life fighting tickets
Three months after that first stop, for example, his license was suspended and he went into his first spiral: Police stopped him on Jan. 8, 2003. They stopped him on Feb. 3 and on Feb. 12 and Feb. 26 and on March 4.
Castile was the "classic case" of what criminologists have called "net widening," or the move by local authorities to criminalize more and more aspects of regular life.
"It is in particular a way that people of color and the poor are victimized on a daily basis," Gonzalez Van Cleve said.
Many times, both Gonzalez Van Cleve and Sandvick agree, the system leaves citizens with no good choices — having to pick, for instance, whether to pay a fine or pay for car insurance.
Castile's driving problems often appeared to be triggered by something small — a problem with his license plate or blocking an intersection. When he couldn't keep up with the fines, his license would get suspended, and he'd keep driving.
One six-year period in particular — from 2006 to 2012 — stands out. Castile was stopped 29 times. Sometimes he was fined $270, sometimes $150, but it kept adding up. He soon amassed more than $5,000 in fines.
Philando Castile.
The July 6 stop was his last.
The head of the Minneapolis NAACP, Nekima Levy-Pounds, compared the situation in the Twin Cities to Ferguson, Mo.
Exploiting the local population to get money to pay the police, and get the money it takes to run a police station, and keep police cars on the road.
Everyone has heard stories about drivers getting nailed for fines, when there was no cause for getting stopped, or getting fined.
You have police officers in a tiny isolated station, nabbing people from the city.
St. Anthony police data shows disproportionate arrests of blacks
July 13, 2016
July 14, 2016
An analysis of St. Anthony police data shows that the department arrested more blacks than whites this year, despite blacks being a small fraction of the population — and let a comparatively larger percentage of whites off with a warning on traffic stops.
The data released by St. Anthony this week shows that, of the department’s 994 arrests made through early July this year, 47 percent of the suspects were black, compared with 46 percent who were white. Ten arrests did not include race data.
According to the most recent U.S. Census data, the three cities the department patrols — St. Anthony, Lauderdale and Falcon Heights — are cumulatively 7 percent black.
When it came to warnings at traffic stops, however, 17 percent of those let off with a warning last year were black, compared to 67 percent who were white.
http://www.twincities.com/2016/07/1...ata-shows-disproportionate-arrests-of-blacks/
NEKIMA LEVY-POUNDS: Well, we don’t know very much about the St. Anthony Police Department. It’s a rather small department. And there is a strip of land that is in a rather strange place, right outside of the city limits of St. Paul, that the St. Anthony main police department has jurisdiction over. They’re actually a Minneapolis police department. It’s not the same as the—as the MPD, the Minneapolis Police Department, but they are actually located in Northeast Minneapolis. And so, many of us were surprised to learn that that strip of land was their jurisdiction and that they actually were responsible for killing Philando Castile.
AMY GOODMAN: This is some of the most astounding footage we have seen. Almost in real time, it is live-streaming. She is actually protecting herself by doing this, with her boyfriend dying next to her and her four-year-old daughter in the back of the car. And then, when she is ordered out of the car, she, also a victim, having experienced this—she is ordered to walk backwards? Is this your understanding? And she’s handcuffed?
NEKIMA LEVY-POUNDS: Yes.
AMY GOODMAN: She’s with her four-year-old daughter and put in a police car, as her boyfriend is dying in the car?
NEKIMA LEVY-POUNDS: Yes. Yes. She was being treated like a criminal, which, unfortunately, is not unusual in these types of cases. So, if you look at what happened to Tamir Rice’s sister in Cleveland, Ohio, when he was killed a couple of years ago, his sister was—his 14-year-old sister was actually tackled to the ground, placed in handcuffs and placed in the back of a squad car as she ran to her dying brother. Here in Minneapolis, after Jamar Clark was killed, there were dozens of African-American witnesses on the scene. When the police arrived, they intimidated the witnesses. They sprayed them with mace and pepper spray. They pulled guns on them, and they physically pushed them. So, it is not uncommon to treat black victims and witnesses as criminals in these types of cases.
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/16371
She streamed the death of the victim, live.
She saved her life by keeping connected.
The police could not spin the story.
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/07/07/reports-officer-involved-shooting-falcon-heights
Officer: Fuck!
Officer: [Yells, screams “fuck” multiple times.]
Officer curses the victim using racist slurs.
Where is the cell phone, that relayed the scene to the internet ?
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Moderator Reminds Vice Presidential Debate Audience To Remain Silent When Exiting Early
I caught the last half of it, and almost wish I had clicked on to NetFlix. Charge and counter charge, in a almost civilized manner. Quljano did caution each of them to allow the other to speak.
Pence is a dick, and is only running for 2020.
I caught the last half of it, and almost wish I had clicked on to NetFlix. Charge and counter charge, in a almost civilized manner. Quljano did caution each of them to allow the other to speak.
Pence is a dick, and is only running for 2020.
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Pence spent part of the debate denying that Trump said some of the things he definitely said, and part of it refusing to actually answer questions.
The RNC's " Pence won the debate" announcement 90 minutes before it even started was the most surreal moment of the night.
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I am speechless that anyone could think Pence won the debate. Not sure how the overnight polls could have cast him as the winner. He lied and deflected the whole night and when Kaine asked him to explain Trump's position by literally quoting Trump Pence called it "insulting"! WTF?
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I think it was his conduct more so than what he said (as fucked up as that sounds), because Kaine, with clearly the upper hand by such a distance in terms of political ammunition, was too eager to interrupt at the vulnerable moments; and too wooden when given his rehearsed lines.
Something mentioned above, Pence's comment about polished politicians was more of a reinforcement of his own candidacy for the future. He'd love nothing more than for Trump to lose, give us three straight Democratic Presidents and the swing back to the Republicans for the 2020 vote would be so favorable for him.
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Pence was in an impossible position: defending Trump. So he just didn't do it. But the shots of Pence shaking his head and being like "Trump didn't say that!" was like watching a scene from 1984. He was trying to making the insane sound merely irrational.
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As far as I can see, defending either of the major nominees is close to impossible. I would really hate to be in a position where I would be required to apologize for their misdeeds.
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I differentiate between trying to defend the despicable and trying to defend (or ignore) the disastrous. BTW I'm almost quoting my granddaughter. On the day before her 6th birthday she held up a plastic figure in each hand and explained, "This is how I differentiate between dragons and dinosaurs." Yes, she reads a lot. More than Tromp or Pense, apparently. More realistic stuff, too. Her fantasies are more rigorous.As far as I can see, defending either of the major nominees is close to impossible. I would really hate to be in a position where I would be required to apologize for their misdeeds.
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He doesn't want to look "disloyal" like Cruz did at the convention.
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One of the news grabs here included the moment when the moderator asked them to stop talking over one another because the audience was not able to understand them.
Real substance in that reporting, right? But, was it limited to Chinese news media?
The whole campaign seems to be form over content, anyway. How can reasoned choices be made? On the basis of insult and personality.
God Help the USA! Cos Trump and Hillary wont!
Real substance in that reporting, right? But, was it limited to Chinese news media?
The whole campaign seems to be form over content, anyway. How can reasoned choices be made? On the basis of insult and personality.
God Help the USA! Cos Trump and Hillary wont!
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As far as I can see, defending either of the major nominees is close to impossible. I would really hate to be in a position where I would be required to apologize for their misdeeds.
That's a false equivalency. You might want to look at this and think over what you just said.
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It's beginning to look like Pence was running for 2016.
I will not be one whit surprised if he shows up to debate Hillary in Donald's stead.
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Who cares. If, like me, you've already decided to vote for Trump, you really don't care. I'm sick to death of traitors like Killary and the cucks who are just as bad. Pence. Schmense. Trump could have picked Ted Cruz to run with and it wouldn't change my mind. Altho I would have preferred Ann Coulter.
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Who was strangely quiet about Trump's behaviour regarding his desire for the married woman. How can Pence defend him? Defending the indefensible I'd say.
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