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Christobal

Christobal

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I am not asking about the lesser of two evils. I am asking about who thinks their candidate whould be a really great president and they will achieve "x" that you really like.
 
This is what I find to be really sad this year. The lack of people who are proud of their candidate. The lack of bumper stickers, buttons and yard signs.

I'm supporting Gary Johnson. I find his honesty very refreshing. I love his willingness to admit his mistakes. I also like his personal story. I think I really would have enjoyed having him as a boss.

There are 2 big issues I'd love for the nation to have a serious discussion about-

1) Ending the policy of Regime Change- it results in debts, wars, and terrorist attacks. Fighting domestic terrorism with an FBI task force, the way the Regan Administration used one to take out the top 3 tiers of the mafia. The FBI noticed the Boston Bomber and the Orlando shooter- apparently they didn't have the resources to keep them under surveillance.

2) War on Drugs- D.C. and at least 26 states have medical marijuana laws, with more referendums pending this election. Apparently weed is less harmful to adults than alcohol and tobacco. Time to turn it back to the states and free the prison space. Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, and we can't even keep drugs out of most of our jails and prisons. It's time to end the war and move to instead treating addiction as a wellness issue. Beyond that the Prohibition/War approach has led to street shootings and made simple traffic stops confrontational and dangerous with mandatory sentencing/ strikes laws applying to possession charges, that broken turn signal could lead to life imprisonment. That turns people desperate.
 
I am behind Clinton 100%. I think she'll make for a great President. Better if she had more backing unlike our current President. Unless Democrats take enough Congressional and Senatorial seats, sweeping changes are not likely to happen

I give full credit to the RNC for keeping her on defense for decades. No one hears about all of the great things she has championed and accomplished in her life. I think I am fairly well informed, and I learned a lot about what she's done during the convention. I've since spoken with supporters of her from 2008 that said the same thing.

It's a sad state of affairs when the oppositions message is that good that it reaches across the aisle.

I've been thinking it's high time for a Hillary accolades thread. Fair warning: don't come play unless you have something of substance to back up your bitterness.
 
Aglaopheme said:
I've been thinking it's high time for a Hillary accolades thread. Fair warning: don't come play unless you have something of substance to back up your bitterness.
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Lay on, Macduff, and damned be him who first cries ‘Hold! enough!’
 
Aglaopheme said:
I am behind Clinton 100%. I think she'll make for a great President. Better if she had more backing unlike our current President. Unless Democrats take enough Congressional and Senatorial seats, sweeping changes are not likely to happen

I give full credit to the RNC for keeping her on defense for decades. No one hears about all of the great things she has championed and accomplished in her life. I think I am fairly well informed, and I learned a lot about what she's done during the convention. I've since spoken with supporters of her from 2008 that said the same thing.

It's a sad state of affairs when the oppositions message is that good that it reaches across the aisle.

I've been thinking it's high time for a Hillary accolades thread. Fair warning: don't come play unless you have something of substance to back up your bitterness.
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This is parody surely.
 
patient1 said:
This is what I find to be really sad this year. The lack of people who are proud of their candidate. The lack of bumper stickers, buttons and yard signs.

I'm supporting Gary Johnson. I find his honesty very refreshing. I love his willingness to admit his mistakes. I also like his personal story. I think I really would have enjoyed having him as a boss.

There are 2 big issues I'd love for the nation to have a serious discussion about-

1) Ending the policy of Regime Change- it results in debts, wars, and terrorist attacks. Fighting domestic terrorism with an FBI task force, the way the Regan Administration used one to take out the top 3 tiers of the mafia. The FBI noticed the Boston Bomber and the Orlando shooter- apparently they didn't have the resources to keep them under surveillance.

2) War on Drugs- D.C. and at least 26 states have medical marijuana laws, with more referendums pending this election. Apparently weed is less harmful to adults than alcohol and tobacco. Time to turn it back to the states and free the prison space. Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, and we can't even keep drugs out of most of our jails and prisons. It's time to end the war and move to instead treating addiction as a wellness issue. Beyond that the Prohibition/War approach has led to street shootings and made simple traffic stops confrontational and dangerous with mandatory sentencing/ strikes laws applying to possession charges, that broken turn signal could lead to life imprisonment. That turns people desperate.
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Hahahahahahahahaha.
 
Can we just not have a president for a few years. Maybe we'll find out we don't need one.
 
pollynova said:
Can we just not have a president for a few years. Maybe we'll find out we don't need one.
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I'm just waiting for the highly evolved space aliens to invade Earth for our remaining resources and/or a Skynet-like sentient A.I. to usurp our electronics-based infrastructure, reduce humanity's population down to mathematically-sound balanced levels (through a brief but necessary violent herd culling) that won't endanger the planet and subsequently mollify us into docile, content organisms in highly regulated social communities with a common purpose to serve our inhuman masters, casting out our shitty, trashy, self-destructive conceits with a tabula rasa mind wipe.

We will be at peace with ourselves, finally.

*snobbishly sips top shelf alcoholic beverage made from the harvests of people existing on the lower rung of the social strata ladder*
 
My barometer is competence, not love. I'm not voting for a penpal.
 
pollynova said:
Can we just not have a president for a few years. Maybe we'll find out we don't need one.
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IrezumiKiss said:
I'm just waiting for the highly evolved space aliens to invade Earth for our remaining resources and/or a Skynet-like sentient A.I. to usurp our electronics-based infrastructure, reduce humanity's population down to mathematically-sound balanced levels (through a brief but necessary violent herd culling) that won't endanger the planet and subsequently mollify us into docile, content organisms in highly regulated social communities with a common purpose to serve our inhuman masters, casting out our shitty, trashy, self-destructive conceits with a tabula rasa mind wipe.

We will be at peace with ourselves, finally.

*snobbishly sips top shelf alcoholic beverage made from the harvests of people existing on the lower rung of the social strata ladder*
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You can do without a President.

Dump your ancient Republican system, which failed the Romans, and adopt the Elizabeth II as your head of state. Some little old lady who looks like many of our grandmothers and whose most important duty is waving at the people as she goes by in all pomp and pageantry. Adopt a Westminster Parliamentary system and get rid of 50% of the bickering and bipartisan politics you now have. As long as your PM has a majority he can do whatever he likes be it legislative, executive of even judicial (as long as it's legal). If he has no majority he will be forced to cooperate with political opponents. A third choice can arise to keep the two main parties honest.


Childhood's End is a good read for those hankering for alien overlords.


Are there any politicians who are loveable? Maybe some backbencher with humanitarian accomplishments on their resume.
 
Aglaopheme said:
I am behind Clinton 100%. I think she'll make for a great President. Better if she had more backing unlike our current President. Unless Democrats take enough Congressional and Senatorial seats, sweeping changes are not likely to happen

I give full credit to the RNC for keeping her on defense for decades. No one hears about all of the great things she has championed and accomplished in her life. I think I am fairly well informed, and I learned a lot about what she's done during the convention. I've since spoken with supporters of her from 2008 that said the same thing.

It's a sad state of affairs when the oppositions message is that good that it reaches across the aisle.

I've been thinking it's high time for a Hillary accolades thread. Fair warning: don't come play unless you have something of substance to back up your bitterness.
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You seem to be the only one that claims a candidate. But hey, good for you. At least you like someone.
 
Hard_Rom said:
You can do without a President.

Dump your ancient Republican system, which failed the Romans, and adopt the Elizabeth II as your head of state. Some little old lady who looks like many of our grandmothers and whose most important duty is waving at the people as she goes by in all pomp and pageantry. Adopt a Westminster Parliamentary system and get rid of 50% of the bickering and bipartisan politics you now have. As long as your PM has a majority he can do whatever he likes be it legislative, executive of even judicial (as long as it's legal). If he has no majority he will be forced to cooperate with political opponents. A third choice can arise to keep the two main parties honest.


Childhood's End is a good read for those hankering for alien overlords.


Are there any politicians who are loveable? Maybe some backbencher with humanitarian accomplishments on their resume.
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I would have thought that you would have favored the Trumpen Reich. Make America great through peace order and good government. Jawohl!
 
Adre said:
My barometer is competence, not love. I'm not voting for a penpal.
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Exactly. Lots of folks voted for Dubya because he's the sort of guy you'd like to get a beer with. We can all see how THAT turned out.

Neither of the two current frontrunners are especially amiable or personable, which is to some degree why people in general are lukewarm to them. Neither connects on a personal level.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Exactly. Lots of folks voted for Dubya because he's the sort of guy you'd like to get a beer with. We can all see how THAT turned out.

Neither of the two current frontrunners are especially amiable or personable, which is to some degree why people in general are lukewarm to them. Neither connects on a personal level.
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Would you like to have a beer with Hillary or Donald? I wouldn't. It would be bullshit. They would just tell me what they think I wanted to hear.
 
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