Too fat to be beauty contestant

[sr71plt]

Once again, LadyF seems to have won the debate. The voice of realism and logic.

And no, I'm not saying this because I'm a "misogynistic racist" who discriminates against overweight women, as some geniuses keep telling me.

You apparently are saying it to make everyone but you and LF laugh at how dumb you're being.

 

[hashtag45]

You apparently are saying it to make everyone but you and LF laugh at how dumb you're being.

No dummy, I say it to laugh at how dumb YOU are.
You read too many Playboy magazines as a teen, and that altered your brain. Playboy-type body shapes are rare and a fantasy, not reality.

 

[Magnetron]

No dummy, I say it to laugh at how dumb YOU are.
You read too many Playboy magazines as a teen, and that altered your brain. Playboy-type body shapes are rare and a fantasy, not reality.

OMFG

You actually said this to sr71plt !?!?!?!

 

[hashtag45]

OMFG

You actually said this to sr71plt !?!?!?!

I forgot about the books that he writes when I said that.
But having said that, I remember clearly a couple of arguments between you guys when he said that he's heterosexual and married.

But what would one take for granted on this site? I saw so many fights and so much nonsense since I joined…

 

[Debbie]

Imagine the uproar if beauty contestants had to be measured, weighed and scrutinized and be a certain size or they could not enter.


Sad really.


The message that teens and young impressionable people are getting from the media (including social media) and fashion magazines is that if you aren't a certain size then you're probably over weight and not beautiful.


None of us are perfect and never will be but I want the teens and young people to like who they are. Not feel they have to starve themselves or experience going into a clothing store and have someone tell them sorry we don't have anything in your size when they're only a size 14.


I love my teen granddaughter so much and her friends are facing this dilemma everyday. On tv, on the fashion runway, in the magazines, in clothing stores. Thankfully because most of them are surrounded by strong loving people who have discussions with them about this topic then there is a lot of frank discussions and they can talk about how they feel and also see that there is no such think as the perfect size or that they need to crash diet etc. But some of them think they're not beautiful, or skinny enough or they have a sticky out bum and wear baggy clothes or won't try on clothes at a store in case people stare, comment, giggle, snigger. Even when they're a healthy weight and size.

Once again. How sad is that? Young people with their whole lives ahead of themselves thinking they should hide because they might not be fit into the supposed acceptable size that they see some in our society commenting on or highlighted.



Sometimes I listen to women who are saying shit like, "She looks so fat in those shorts. She has chunky thighs."


Can't they hear themselves? They sound so shallow and callous and cruel. The message they're sending to their own children is horrible. Be slim. Fit in. If you don't? Please do not step out in public. Or feel ashamed.

Body shaming someone is mean and sends a message that I truly believe most people don't want their children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews etc to hear and harm themselves with ridiculous diets or starving themselves.


The message we need to send is. Eat healthy. Everything in moderation. Exercise and like who you are.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Sticky out bums are in style right now.

 

[Magnetron]

I forgot about the books that he writes when I said that.
But having said that, I remember clearly a couple of arguments between you guys when he said that he's heterosexual and married.

But what would one take for granted on this site? I saw so many fights and so much nonsense since I joined…

Your lump everyone into groups and generalize way too much. It's obnoxious. But you already know that, because you do it on purpose to make yourself the center of attention.

I was introduced to Playboys at 8 and I grew tired of them because they were sorely lacking in diversity in body shape and poses, which was important to me because I was into figure drawing.

After having accumulated several hundred between subscriptions and buying them for a dollar an issue at flea markets, I ended up chucking them all into my woodstove a few years ago. The diversity made available by the Internet had rendered them useless.

Imagine the uproar if beauty contestants had to be measured, weighed and scrutinized and be a certain size or they could not enter.


Sad really.


The message that teens and young impressionable people are getting from the media (including social media) and fashion magazines is that if you aren't a certain size then you're probably over weight and not beautiful.


None of us are perfect and never will be but I want the teens and young people to like who they are. Not feel they have to starve themselves or experience going into a clothing store and have someone tell them sorry we don't have anything in your size when they're only a size 14.


I love my teen granddaughter so much and her friends are facing this dilemma everyday. On tv, on the fashion runway, in the magazines, in clothing stores. Thankfully because most of them are surrounded by strong loving people who have discussions with them about this topic then there is a lot of frank discussions and they can talk about how they feel and also see that there is no such think as the perfect size or that they need to crash diet etc. But some of them think they're not beautiful, or skinny enough or they have a sticky out bum and wear baggy clothes or won't try on clothes at a store in case people stare, comment, giggle, snigger. Even when they're a healthy weight and size.

Once again. How sad is that? Young people with their whole lives ahead of themselves thinking they should hide because they might not be fit into the supposed acceptable size that they see some in our society commenting on or highlighted.



Sometimes I listen to women who are saying shit like, "She looks so fat in those shorts. She has chunky thighs."


Can't they hear themselves? They sound so shallow and callous and cruel. The message they're sending to their own children is horrible. Be slim. Fit in. If you don't? Please do not step out in public. Or feel ashamed.

Body shaming someone is mean and sends a message that I truly believe most people don't want their children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews etc to hear and harm themselves with ridiculous diets or starving themselves.


The message we need to send is. Eat healthy. Everything in moderation. Exercise and like who you are.

It would help if you expanded the message to say that lumping people into groups is stooopid;

impress upon any young girls around you that boys and men and even other girls are not ALL clones who worship at the altar of a particular female figure.

Telling them through your own words and actions that the opposite sex is only interested in a few body types only makes matters worse.

 

[hashtag45]

Your lump everyone into groups and generalize way too much. It's obnoxious. But you already know that, because you do it on purpose to make yourself the center of attention.

Where did you see me lump someone into a category,
you passive-aggressive doufuss?
When You started things by giggling about sr71

 

[hashtag45]

The message that teens and young impressionable people are getting from the media (including social media) and fashion magazines is that if you aren't a certain size then you're probably over weight and not beautiful.:

There's a paradox going on nowadays because on one hand teens are exposed to all these negative messages and impossible standards of beauty that can be quite damaging

But on the other hand, the % of obese people is increasing. We Are gradually becoming a society where obesity is becoming the norm. But what's quite worrying is the fact that child and teen obesity is on the rise. You don't see it as much in NZ and Australia, but one definitely sees it in the US and to a lesser degree, in the UK.

Normalising that doesn't help either.

Tough one.

 

[BotanyBoy]

When I use the term "obese" I refer to body fat percentage. That is factual for individuals.

BMI is meant for aggregated data use and it is accurate within that context.

BMI is a load of shit. Army made me go float in a tub of water for the doc every 3 months because BMI can't tell the difference between someone who works out for a living and a fat ass.

 

[RobDownSouth]

BMI is a load of shit. Army made me go float in a tub of water for the doc every 3 months because BMI can't tell the difference between someone who works out for a living and a fat ass.

I agree AND disagree with you.

BMI, absent any other "better" predictors (i.e. water dunk or Gemini scan) is a pretty good indicator of body fat for people with sedentary lifestyles, which is roughly 80% of the Murican population.

People in the military as a whole are in much better condition, eat much more, and have a much more active lifestyle by definition, so the float test or a Gemini scan would be a much more reliable indicator, especially for combat arms folks who probably have the most active lifestyle of all.

I work out with weights, my calculated BMI for my weight is a bit over 26, which is considered "overweight" on the BMI spectrum. I get a Gemini scan once a year (note to Queerbait: I pay for this out of pocket, so fuck you) and it has me at 23.5 body fat, a difference of 10% which I attribute to the squat rack (my upper body is playing catch-up after a rotator cuff tear).

BMI is a pretty accurate indicator for the typical GB couch potato.

 

[Magnetron]

Where did you see me lump someone into a category,
you passive-aggressive doufuss?

Umm ... gee ... uhh ... I don't know .....

But having said that, I remember clearly a couple of arguments between you guys when he said that he's heterosexual and married.

You read too many Playboy magazines as a teen, and that altered your brain. Playboy-type body shapes are rare and a fantasy, not reality.

You're one of those GB intellectuals who throw the words "stupid", "dumb" and "moron" left and right,
like free candies.

QUESTION:

For Magnetron and the other guys who keep saying that the plus models rock, whereas the thin contestants are anorexic and ooglee.
and who attacked posters who hold a different opinion,

Do you guys think that such an attitude will make it more likely for you to get cyberlaid?

A lot of us are firm in our belief that LadyF is waay on the higher side of IQ of Lit.,
and that her arguments are anything BUT dumb

Beauty contestants are mainly wank fodder for men and a pasttime for women, when they are bored or would look to see a bit of fashion and glamour.
Nobody takes them seriously any longer.

.... duh ..................




And that was just from briefly skimming over this thread again.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I agree AND disagree with you.

BMI is a pretty accurate indicator for the typical GB couch potato.

Fair nuff'

 

[fma20fma]

hi

My ex bf used to say fat is best suited for anal in dogy posture.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

BMI is a load of shit. Army made me go float in a tub of water for the doc every 3 months because BMI can't tell the difference between someone who works out for a living and a fat ass.

Again, BMI is meant to be applied to aggregate data. Anyone who uses it evaluate an individual does not understand what aggregated data is. Used as its intended, BMI is very useful.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

It seems as every thread is someway involving that pretty little hashtag45 .
Since runway models have been discussed, I'd like to see him/her/it/whatever on a runway in front of a moving jumbo jet!:caning:

 

[Darbhinder]

You apparently are saying it to make everyone but you and LF laugh at how dumb you're being.

Hashfag will side with anyone who doesn't call him an idiot. With ladyf that makes 4ppl.

 

[RobDownSouth]

A better predictor of individual health is the Waist-to-Height ratio.

You measure your body circumference one inch above your navel, it calculates your visceral (belly) fat and tells you where you fall in the spectrum.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I get a laugh out of my 220lb plus buddies who say they were the same sized waist pants as when they were younger. The waist is measured across the belly button. Kinda old school when pants were cut to be worn around waist. Plumbers crack!

 

[Hard_Rom]

A better predictor of individual health is the Waist-to-Height ratio.

You measure your body circumference one inch above your navel, it calculates your visceral (belly) fat and tells you where you fall in the spectrum.

34" 5' 10" .49 ok one more inch and I should consider action not quite as skinny as I thought 30 was definitely skinny 32 was were I was happy 34 no more six pack middle age slump and paunch man tits now and sagging sucks to grow old

girl in op is what maybe 26" looks narrow waisted and 5'9" accordingly scale says take care girl better eat a few cheese burgers I guess

 

[hashtag45]

Umm ... gee ... uhh ... I don't know .....
.... duh ..................

And that was just from briefly skimming over this thread again.

Saying umm… gee… duh… certainly proved your point and made me look stupid /you - clevurr.

 

[hashtag45]

It seems as every thread is someway involving that pretty little hashtag45 .
Since runway models have been discussed, I'd like to see him/her/it/whatever on a runway in front of a moving jumbo jet!

If you paid attention, I said several times that I look nothing like a runway model (I'm of a chunky conformation and currently I carry a couple of extra pounds).

Plus a couple of you guys totally missed the point of what I was trying to argue here. No surprise here, lol ...
And what's with the ironical 'him/her/it' every time? Trying to prove something?

 

[eyerami]

It seems as every thread is someway involving that pretty little hashtag45 .
Since runway models have been discussed, I'd like to see him/her/it/whatever on a runway in front of a moving jumbo jet!:caning:

Dude, you're only that arrogant because you're lucky enough to still be plugging (thank you cases of Viagra and crates of wooden splints) Miss Watermelons 1932.

 

[Magnetron]

certainly proved your point and made me look stupid

You make it so easy.

This whole dumbshit personna peformance alt thing you cooked up seems to come very natural to you.

LoL

 

[hashtag45]

You make it so easy.

This whole dumbshit personna peformance alt thing you cooked up seems to come very natural to you.

LoL

Stick to poetry, little boy.
Flexing your muscles behind the keyboard won't prove to me that you're an alpha.