"Gender Fluidity."

[loverofintersex1]

Googling around, I ran across this term and it was like a lightbulb going off in my head. Not either male or female -- not either heterosexual or homosexual, not either bisexual, gay, or straight, whatever label sorta fits you. Fluid. Heterosexual, and then bisexual, and then homosexual, and then pan-sexually receptive of mixed-gender orgies, of swingers, of "open relationships" -- without these necessarily being guilty rationalizations for disloyalty to a life-sworn partner. Just... yourself. Free of the closet, and free of being free of the closet, by personal choice.

Impossible, you think?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Nihilism...


:shrug:

 

[Hard_Rom]

With 9 billion people on the planet you're bound to run in to any and or all different permutations of sexuality.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Googling around, I ran across this term and it was like a lightbulb going off in my head. Not either male or female -- not either heterosexual or homosexual, not either bisexual, gay, or straight, whatever label sorta fits you. Fluid. Heterosexual, and then bisexual, and then homosexual, and then pan-sexually receptive of mixed-gender orgies, of swingers, of "open relationships" -- without these necessarily being guilty rationalizations for disloyalty to a life-sworn partner. Just... yourself. Free of the closet, and free of being free of the closet, by personal choice.

Impossible, you think?

Wrap your eyes around some anthropology books for some clues about human nature.

 

[GrandpaBill]

Googling around, I ran across this term and it was like a lightbulb going off in my head. Not either male or female -- not either heterosexual or homosexual, not either bisexual, gay, or straight, whatever label sorta fits you. Fluid. Heterosexual, and then bisexual, and then homosexual, and then pan-sexually receptive of mixed-gender orgies, of swingers, of "open relationships" -- without these necessarily being guilty rationalizations for disloyalty to a life-sworn partner. Just... yourself. Free of the closet, and free of being free of the closet, by personal choice.

Impossible, you think?

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[NOIRTRASH]

The real standard for any trait is its utility. Every trait has a range of expression, and some expressions work better than others. Midget basketball isn't a money maker.

 

[hashtag45]

Googling around, I ran across this term and it was like a lightbulb going off in my head. Not either male or female -- not either heterosexual or homosexual, not either bisexual, gay, or straight, whatever label sorta fits you. Fluid. Heterosexual, and then bisexual, and then homosexual, and then pan-sexually receptive of mixed-gender orgies, of swingers, of "open relationships" -- without these necessarily being guilty rationalizations for disloyalty to a life-sworn partner. Just... yourself. Free of the closet, and free of being free of the closet, by personal choice.

Impossible, you think?

Pan-sexual? Cis-sexual?
You over-the top 'libs.' are too in love with your personnas.

Most people are heterosexual, some people are homosexual, and even a smaller minority are transsexual. Nothing wrong or abnormal about that.

Case closed.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

The test isn't RIGHT vs WRONG. The test is utility for a specified outcome.

People come in sundry heights, but if youre recruiting a basketball team Congo Pygmys aint who you want. Watusi are much better.

 

[JohnnySavage]

It's the latest craze. Welcome to 1968

 

[xbb]

lunacy

 

[loverofintersex1]

It's the latest craze. Welcome to 1968

Boy, do I feel like a fucking idiot.... Or maybe just a jerk-off. Or a cock-sucker.....

Weird. There's this story in a fairly recent (Sept 12, 2016) Time Magazine, about a man who had a baby. Any of you read it? .

 

[eyerami]

I prefer the term "Gender Flushable".

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Males cant have babies.

 

[eyerami]

Males cant have babies.

Shhhh...

You're going to pop the bozo's unicorn fart bubble.

 

[Kantarii]

I'm still a human being at the end of the day.Kant

 

[loverofintersex1]

I'm still a human being at the end of the day.Kant

Absolutely. But what -- precisely -- will "human" mean once we surrender the binary gender classification and go farther than Kinsey in describing sexual "types" in a continuum within which any one person from could permanently be slotted, from purely-homosexual to purely-heterosexual and homosexual or bisexual etc slotted somewhere in the middle -- for a complete life-time. What this suggests -- once the monopoly of one gender or female-grouped-slots to have children is abandoned or overwhelmed -- is that one individual human being could pass from one of these groups or slots in his or her own lifetime. No need to defend one's single "choice" -- s/he who is born homosexual can decide to be bisexual along the way, and revert to homosexual or stay bisexual afterwards...? And STILL be a cherished human being, Kantarii, yes indeed.

This is not a Sixties game here, this is a 21st century set of questions: what is the future of child-bearing, for example? The future of housework? The future of outside-the-home employment? Of retirement? Of pensions and hospital insurance, when one's partner may have morphed into a different creature -- no disloyalty or anything like that, just freedom of choice -- Of the rights -- legally, culturally -- of individual human persons? At the end of he day, I'll still be a human person, yes. But what, in point of fact, are the boundaries of my legitimate human choices after my sexual identification is a temporary expression of my complete sexual person and my right. My human right.

 

[Hypoxia]

I prefer the old term "polymorphous perversity," thank you.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I prefer the old term "polymorphous perversity," thank you.

No one with a lick of sense ever doubted your polymorphous perversity.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Absolutely. But what -- precisely -- will "human" mean once we surrender the binary gender classification and go farther than Kinsey in describing sexual "types" in a continuum within which any one person from could permanently be slotted, from purely-homosexual to purely-heterosexual and homosexual or bisexual etc slotted somewhere in the middle -- for a complete life-time. What this suggests -- once the monopoly of one gender or female-grouped-slots to have children is abandoned or overwhelmed -- is that one individual human being could pass from one of these groups or slots in his or her own lifetime. No need to defend one's single "choice" -- s/he who is born homosexual can decide to be bisexual along the way, and revert to homosexual or stay bisexual afterwards...? And STILL be a cherished human being, Kantarii, yes indeed.

This is not a Sixties game here, this is a 21st century set of questions: what is the future of child-bearing, for example? The future of housework? The future of outside-the-home employment? Of retirement? Of pensions and hospital insurance, when one's partner may have morphed into a different creature -- no disloyalty or anything like that, just freedom of choice -- Of the rights -- legally, culturally -- of individual human persons? At the end of he day, I'll still be a human person, yes. But what, in point of fact, are the boundaries of my legitimate human choices after my sexual identification is a temporary expression of my complete sexual person and my right. My human right.

What does it matter? In most households both partners have to work outside the home these days. Women have equal rights. So flip flopping back and forth should not be an issue if both partners are equal under the law and in society's eyes. Until they invent an artificial womb bearing children will still be the role of those who have wombs. Womb transplants in to men IMO would be even further off than an artificial one. Perfect cloning and adopt genetic manipulation and conceivably the male sex becomes redundant.

Your argument/questions seems to me to suggest you believe that sexuality beyond what you were born as/with is a choice. IMO homosexuality in the main is not a choice. You are born with a slightly crosswired sexuality brain center. Same with transgenderism, you are born in the 'wrong' body.

There have been homosexuals, transexuals and cross-dressers as far back as our histories record. This is nothing new. It is only our western society with it's openness and (imperfectly/supposed) lack of prejudices that have brought such folk out of their 5000 year old closets.

A persons sexuality means nothing. Fluid or set. It should be a complete non-news/conversation issue. Should we still be looking at left handed people with suspicion? We could reduce the price of scissors if companies refused to put the money into buying double of some of the equipment to make scissors for left handed types.

Among open-minded non-prejudicial folk being gay is no longer an issue. In time being fluid sexually will matter just as little.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

GENDER FLUIDITY refers to Brits and Canadian males with loose anal sphincters. Common with both populations.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Isn't gender fluidity just an overly complicated term for tomboys who still want to be prom queen and jocks who get pedicures?

 

[Que]

Isn't gender fluidity just an overly complicated term for tomboys who still want to be prom queen and jocks who get pedicures?

Yes. Metrosexuals for example, are typically straight males but they are not overly concerned with presenting an overly macho male presentation. Some metrosexuals some hipsters are gay how they choose to present their appearance has nothing to do with their sexual orientation

Always amazing to me every time the subject comes up on this theoretically open minded website that it seems the majority of the posters cannot grasp the very simple concept of gender has absolutely nothing to do with your sexual orientation. If a woman is born as a woman and think she's a woman and prefers the company of women that makes her a lesbian; her gender was never in question. the fact that her partner is a top or a bottom a pillow queen or a bull Dyke says absolutely nothing about her gender. If she happens to dress and flannel shirts and Doc Martens that may or may not have anything to do with gender expression she might still identify as a woman who likes flannel shirts and Doc Martens.

The fact that there are entertainers who perform as drag queens who are typically gay is about as relevant as saying that blacksmiths tend to be left handed.

One's gender has nothing to do with being heterosexual, gay, bisexual, pansexual or asexual.

The OP sounds like he is likely a trisexual. He will try anything sexual. He is now just confusing the term, thinking it somehow applies to his brand of sexuality.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Just curious did you pull that bit about left handed blacksmiths out of your ass to be funny or was there some sort of study? Cus just random think that sounds like one of those "odd but true" facts. I'm sure somewhere out there there is a job that ambidextrous people excel in greatly.

 

[Que]

Just curious did you pull that bit about left handed blacksmiths out of your ass to be funny or was there some sort of study? Cus just random think that sounds like one of those "odd but true" facts. I'm sure somewhere out there there is a job that ambidextrous people excel in greatly.

It was a geunine PFA "fact," as is commonly found here on the general board. There are certain blacksmithing processes, like having an assistant help you pound out a sword blank, where it might be handy to have your assistant be left handed but I know of no specific likelihood. Most pictures of forges I have seen it would make more sense to be right handed. They typically made their own equipment so a left-handed blacksmith for example would make himself left-handed pliers.

The brother just younger than me was born left-handed. Mom did not believe in left handed so she forced him to use his left. That turned out to be fortuitous because he is now a high-risk obstetric surgeon and is pretty good with both his hands. I've got a better right then he does but he's got a much better left then I.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Just curious did you pull that bit about left handed blacksmiths out of your ass to be funny or was there some sort of study? Cus just random think that sounds like one of those "odd but true" facts. I'm sure somewhere out there there is a job that ambidextrous people excel in greatly.

Rub and tugs. Double your throughput.