"Basket of Deplorables" - Hillary Correctly Labels Trump Supporters. Beautiful.

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah, I'm more on the D side than on the R side. Which with my European perspective makes me centre right. So?

LOL only in Europe.

That's irrelevant in this election. I'm firmly against Trump. And "meh" on Clinton.

See I just don't think Trump is going to be all that different except he won't feed the public feel good lies doing it like Clinton will.

So I'm just enjoying watching the two try and pretend their scum bag is somehow less scummy. And in very specific cases both sides have a few winners up their selves. For the most part I see both camps as two plies of shit accusing each other of stinking up the room while pretending they smell like roses.

Watching (D)'s hallucinate about Hillary is almost as good at pretending she's a for the working class progressive as the (R)'s were at pretending Romney was a conservative. In some cases even better.

I mean looking at their records Romney is WAY MORE PROGRESSIVE liburhul than Clinton. Who is a better Republican than Romney! LMFAO!!

Any somewhat normal candidate who can get elected and is not a bloviating assbag with the Head Of State chops of a heap of manure gets my endorsment. Like I've said before, if this was an election between Trump and Dick 'Vader' Cheney, I'd support Cheney.

That's the problem....our system + big money interest +300,000,000 idiots = not gonna happen.

D or R only because freedumb. We had a number of better candidates on both sides yet somehow the two slimiest fuckers ever won. LOL

 

[underguy1]

Yeah, I'm more on the D side than on the R side. Which with my European perspective makes me centre right. So?

That's irrelevant in this election. I'm firmly against Trump. And "meh" on Clinton. Any somewhat normal candidate who can get elected and is not a bloviating assbag with the Head Of State chops of a heap of manure gets my endorsment. Like I've said before, if this was an election between Trump and Dick 'Vader' Cheney, I'd support Cheney.

Serious question. Why?

Cheney and Clinton are mass murderers. How could Trump be worse?

 

[Liar]

LOL only in Europe.

Nah, pretty much anywhere except 'murrca.

 

[Conager]

Conservatives have chosen a candidate that both respected Republican and Democratic leaders agree is the most openly-bigoted candidate to run for office in decades. Fact.

It's brought scores of "hateful, racist, sexist" people out to the forefront to support him. Fact.

So, if this concerns you, why have Conservatives been hell-bent on trying to prove the Dems right on this?

Republicans consistently bring out the guy that lost the previous primary to the forefront so they can lose the general election. They anoint who is supposed to win the primary and the Republican base said no we're tired of you appointing yet another loser. This was a just say no to another Bush vote. GW Bush only won because Clinton was a national disgrace, and Algore, the son of a corrupt politician with grades even worse than W's was a poor candidate. That generation's McGovern.

Trump is arguably more of a liberal than Hillary, would be my objection. He has a xenophobic message not a racist one. You see a racist behind every tree because your are a racist.

We are the only country in the world that anyone apologizes for their xenophobia. Xenophobia appeals to the populist base in much the same way the Democrats message of never-ending handouts appeals to that populist base. It's just a question of who's going to fill their hand government or America first and industry. Both are pipe dreams that neither party can actually deliver.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Serious question. Why?

Cheney and Clinton are mass murderers. How could Trump be worse?

Because that'a what the mass media told him.

Nah, pretty much anywhere except 'murrca.

Nah...supporting a massive welfare state and bureaucratic micromanagement over everyone and everything at all times is left of center, everywhere.

 

[Liar]

Serious question. Why?

Cheney and Clinton are mass murderers. How could Trump be worse?

Anyone with a history of being in charge (or in both Cheney's and Clinton's cases, working on policy and doctrine with the guy in charge) of the US military might in times of strife, will end up a "mass murderer" by that definition.

Trump's saving grace in that is that he hasn't yet had the opportunity. That means he can pretend he'd do better.

 

[Liar]

Nah...supporting a massive welfare state and bureaucratic micromanagement over everyone and everything at all times is left of center, everywhere.

Did you come to that vapid conclusiuon about where I stand on the welfare state from me saiyng I'm more D than R?

 

[underguy1]

Anyone with a history of being in charge (or in both Cheney's and Clinton's cases, working on policy and doctrine with the guy in charge) of the US military might in times of strife, will end up a "mass murderer" by that definition.

Trump's saving grace in that is that he hasn't yet had the opportunity. That means he can pretend he'd do better.

You haven't really answered my question.

If anything you've endorsed the notion that, for you, mass murderers are AOK.

Trump may or may not be pretending on these issues but Clinton's outright belligerent, warmongering rhetoric and record of militarism and propensity to use violence over diplomacy are facts.

It's hard to see someone like Clinton as a lesser evil. How much more evil can one be?

 

[Conager]

I'm sure the Whigs had "respected leaders" who denounced Lincoln. These leaders of which you speak? "Respected" by whom? Democrats? HuffPo? Atlantic Monthly? RHINOs? Karl Rove? Their wisdom was not at all a respected by the voters the voters told them fuck you.

Other than the fact that the establishment Republicans hate Trump, what is it about those Respected Republicans that you so dearly respect? If they had succeded in pushing Jeb, Ted, or Marco, I seriously doubt you would be labeling them as revered statesmen.

You should be celebrating that in the unlikely event of a Trump Presidency, all the Republican establishment special interests, lobbyists, pork barrel prohects and the military you hated till the "Drone-em-all,let-Allah-sort-em-out" Barry "Rambo" Obama got elected, just got fucked.

Would have been nice if the Democrats displayed the same kind of fuckyou attitude the Republican voters did and rejected the candidate that was shoved down their throats.

The Republican party is dead.They rode the wrong horse and all the money that goes with the establishment whores is GONE. Good riddance.

 

[Conager]

You haven't really answered my question.

If anything you've endorsed the notion that, for you, mass murderers are AOK.

Trump may or may not be pretending on these issues but Clinton's outright belligerent, warmongering rhetoric and record of militarism and propensity to use violence over diplomacy are facts.

It's hard to see someone like Clinton as a lesser evil. How much more evil can one be?

They could have an R beside their name. No sin is greater.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Did you come to that vapid conclusiuon about where I stand on the welfare state from me saiyng I'm more D than R?

No.

I came to that conclusion after years of watching you post in support of welfare and government control. You saying you support really either brand of American welfare politics tied to massive government micromanagement just further supports it.

But I could have missed something did you somewhere along the way prefer a 'fuck for it or starve' society or do you support social safety nets and government handouts?

Because I've never seen you post anything that might indicate that.

 

[underguy1]

Oh great. The loonertarians have arrived with their stock strawmen.

Abandon all hope.

 

[barefootgirl69]

I think my problem with what she said is the fact that she is supposed to be a leader... a president for all Americans, even the ones who don't vote for her.

I would have more confidence in her if she (or any politician) could put aside 'parties' and name-calling of any kind, and focus on important things.

'A house divided....'

 

[Conager]

I think my problem with what she said is the fact that she is supposed to be a leader... a president for all Americans, even the ones who don't vote for her.

I would have more confidence in her if she (or any politician) could put aside 'parties' and name-calling of any kind, and focus on important things.

'A house divided....'

That's funny. A quote by the Trump of his time. An outsider who should never even be in the General Election.

Trump is also practicing the politics of division but his division of us versus them are theoretically American voters vs. ineligible to vote voters. The Democrats of course consider those simply voters which is why they oppose voter ID.

She's making a huge mistake though thinking that everyone that has the same skin tone as the 20 million potential Democratic voters all want another 20 million on top of that admitted to this country. And they don't. Plenty of not white people who live in neighborhoods inundated with unbridled immigration aren't happy about it. no they all of course won an exemption made for their aunt Uncle cousin or brother but not for the rest of the words.

Republicans are racist worked for getting out the black vote for Obama except for the fact the black vote actually showed up to vote for the black guy they're not going to show up to vote for the racist white woman.

 

[patient1]

Hilary is backpedaling and apologizing for her remarks now. I don't see her remarks a helping her, I find it more akin to Obama's "guns and religion" remark than Mitt's 47%, the kind of thing which won't lose the election, but will permanently offend and alienate people and make it harder to govern as president.

It would have been more diplomatic of her to clarify "Trump Supporters", drawing distinctions among those who poll as Trump, between the reluctant Republicans, the Hillary haters, and the true Trump supporters- basically the ones that were with him in the primaries. The last subset of the Trump coalition is only about 10% of the general electorate. So half of them would be 5%.


I suspect that Trump himself is more of a race baiter ( which is worse ) than a racist, cynically pandering for power when he makes his provocative remarks, but regardless, he has become a magnet for racists.

Why do I say that about people I've mostly never met? I have this objective test-
There are illegal Canadians in about every border state I've visited. There are illegal Irish in Boston. There are various other illegals in college towns who have overstayed their visas. I never hear about walling them out or rounding them up. It's always abut the Mexicans or Latinos.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Hilary is backpedaling and apologizing for her remarks now. I don't see her remarks a helping her, I find it more akin to Obama's "guns and religion" remark than Mitt's 47%, the kind of thing which won't lose the election, but will permanently offend and alienate people and make it harder to govern as president.

It would have been more diplomatic of her to clarify "Trump Supporters", drawing distinctions among those who poll as Trump, between the reluctant Republicans, the Hillary haters, and the true Trump supporters- basically the ones that were with him in the primaries. The last subset of the Trump coalition is only about 10% of the general electorate. So half of them would be 5%.


I suspect that Trump himself is more of a race baiter ( which is worse ) than a racist, cynically pandering for power when he makes his provocative remarks, but regardless, he has become a magnet for racists.

Why do I say that about people I've mostly never met? I have this objective test-
There are illegal Canadians in about every border state I've visited. There are illegal Irish in Boston. There are various other illegals in college towns who have overstayed their visas. I never hear about walling them out or rounding them up. It's always abut the Mexicans or Latinos.

When I lived in Boston/Cambridge there was routinetalk of rounding up the illegal Irish. That is a hyper local issue so outside of Boston you don't hear about it. Illegal Mexican, however, are in a large number of states across the US and thus gain national traction as a talking point.

 

[Conager]

Hilary is backpedaling and apologizing for her remarks now. I don't see her remarks a helping her, I find it more akin to Obama's "guns and religion" remark than Mitt's 47%, the kind of thing which won't lose the election, but will permanently offend and alienate people and make it harder to govern as president.

It would have been more diplomatic of her to clarify "Trump Supporters", drawing distinctions among those who poll as Trump, between the reluctant Republicans, the Hillary haters, and the true Trump supporters- basically the ones that were with him in the primaries. The last subset of the Trump coalition is only about 10% of the general electorate. So half of them would be 5%.


I suspect that Trump himself is more of a race baiter ( which is worse ) than a racist, cynically pandering for power when he makes his provocative remarks, but regardless, he has become a magnet for racists.

Why do I say that about people I've mostly never met? I have this objective test-
There are illegal Canadians in about every border state I've visited. There are illegal Irish in Boston. There are various other illegals in college towns who have overstayed their visas. I never hear about walling them out or rounding them up. It's always abut the Mexicans or Latinos.

Wait, there are Canadians and Irishmen with little to no education and spec8fic job skills coming here specifically because our safety-net exceeds the safety nets in Ireland and Canada by huge margins? I didn't realize it was that bad and Ireland in Canada. lots of Canadians in Arizona some of them own businesses some of them are retired all of them seem to own very expensive houses which are often built with illegal Mexican labor. Wages in Arizona for basic labor are not very high. Some people (I grant you they're probably all racists) seem to think that there's some sort of correlation between the availability of inexpensive illegal labor and low wages.

Even people willing to work for relatively low wages have some difficulty finding work in the trades because it's still a lot cheaper to hire somebody who you don't have to worry about workman's comp claims you don't have to worry about unemployment benefits and you don't have to withhold taxes and pay FICA on.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

She's making a huge mistake though thinking that everyone that has the same skin tone as the 20 million potential Democratic voters all want another 20 million on top of that admitted to this country. And they don't. Plenty of not white people who live in neighborhoods inundated with unbridled immigration aren't happy about it. no they all of course won an exemption made for their aunt Uncle cousin or brother but not for the rest of the words.

Republicans are racist worked for getting out the black vote for Obama except for the fact the black vote actually showed up to vote for the black guy they're not going to show up to vote for the racist white woman.

I think you are right and that there will be a lot of surprises come election day if Clinton doesn't expand beyond her "I'm not that racist Trump!" style of complaining. I know she's a filthy racist, I remember.

We had a lot of "refugees welcome here" signs pop up in Brooklyn, pinned in the windows of cafes serving $15.00 artisanal salads and $5.00 iced teas. Given the current mood in the air regarding rapid gentrification, non-trust fund non-white Brooklynites viewed those signs and wondered what the refugees are welcome to do --- scrub the toilets? Because if middle income blacks are being forced out, I don't see how "Syrian" refugees are going to live here. There is no "affordable" housing being created in Brooklyn anymore. I guess they will take a bus from Queens, scrub the toilets then go home?

A lot of POC are not going to vote for Clinton. Just not gonna show up. I have yet to decide what I will do, which means I will likely smoke a lot of weed that day and fuck off the election. To tell me Trump is worse is laughable.

 

[RoryN]

You see a racist behind every tree because your are a racist.

*yawn*

I've had the right fringe on the GB call me a "racist" hundreds of times.

I've asked them to provide evidence. They haven't. Not even once.

Your turn, cupcake.

 

[Disgustipated]

I think you are right and that there will be a lot of surprises come election day if Clinton doesn't expand beyond her "I'm not that racist Trump!" style of complaining. I know she's a filthy racist, I remember.

We had a lot of "refugees welcome here" signs pop up in Brooklyn, pinned in the windows of cafes serving $15.00 artisanal and $5.00 iced teas. Given the current mood in the air regarding rapid gentrification, non-trust fund non-white Brooklynites viewed those signs and wondered what the refugees are welcome to do --- scrub the toilets? Because if middle income blacks are being forced out, I don't see how "Syrian" refugees are going to live here. I guess they will take a bus from Queens, scrub the toilets then go home?

A lot of POC are not going to vote for Clinton. Just not gonna show up. I have yet to decide what I will do, which means I will likely smoke a lot of weed that day and fuck off the election. To tell me Trump is worse is laughable.

Sometimes you make a lot of sense- like this ^^

Other times you come in bumping threads begging dizzYb00bY for a response to a direct question.

 

[Conager]

*yawn*

I've had the right fringe on the GB call me a "racist" hundreds of times.

I've asked them to provide evidence. They haven't. Not even once.

Your turn, cupcake.

So they have provided the same evidence of racism that you have provided that Trump supporters are racist? Sounds right.

You and mrs. Clinton just labeled a large chunk of those that support Trump (although she, but not you, are sure a few of them are good people) as racist.

I am quite reasonably assuming that you are assuming that they're all white and you have specifically suggested that that large number of people are only voting for him for racist reasons which you have zero evidence about.

There any number of reasons they may be voting for Trump but you assume that they are racist simply because they're not black, right faggot? (I'm assuming we are bandying about emasculating and homophobic slurs for emphasis because we are such he-men, amiright?)

 

[hashtag45]

*yawn*

I've had the right fringe on the GB call me a "racist" hundreds of times.

I've asked them to provide evidence. They haven't. Not even once.

Your turn, cupcake.

Well, I will certainly barge in and provide you with evidence instead.
I can't comment on the racist part, but I have a suspicion that you're a xenophobe.

Remember when you sided with the other piece of shit who was cyberstalking me with all sorts of disgusting sexual and xenophobic slurs? And you claimed that I "love it and am asking for it", or that I deserve it because I'm "a racist"?

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Sometimes you make a lot of sense- like this ^^

Other times you come in bumping threads begging dizzYb00bY for a response to a direct question.

I have never begged him nor anyone else for a direct response. My bumping of threads is meant to antagonize him in such a way no one has ever been able to successfully do before, by poinint out that his own people orchestrate everything he claims to stand against. My antagonism is working.

 

[RoryN]

There any number of reasons they may be voting for Trump but you assume that they are racist simply because they're not black, right faggot?

Let me try to simplify this for s simplistic mind (yours):

*Trump spouts overtly racist ideology.
*People who vote for him - regardless of their race - are voting for everything he stands for. That's what a vote means.
*If his racism was enough to turn them away, they wouldn't vote for him.
*If they support him, they're supporting overt racism.

What else do you need - stick figures?

(Still waiting for proof that I'm a racist; kthx.)

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's a Horse Race! A HORSE RACE, DAMMIT!