Vanishing sexual traditions

[Green_Knight]

This may be a very short-lived thread, but I hope not.

There seem to be local sexual traditions that seem to be dying out with the propensity of people to move around much more these days than ever before and 'closed' communities being opened up to outside gaze. Many of these old traditions don't seem to be recorded anywhere and it would be sad to lose all awareness of them.

In many places, for example, a 'Droit du seigneur' was said to exist by which the feudal lord had first right to local virgins, though I'm not aware of any verified cases of this.

In my neck of the woods it was the tradition that a single male visitor to the house had to be offered the wife for the night. That seems to have carried through into a widespread tradition of wife-swapping in the area. However, you try to find any reference to it in books or on the internet. Maybe not surprisingly.

Any such traditions that you know of from your localities?

 

[jetaime33]

Wow, I need to live in your neck of the woods.

 

[chitrashi]

In my community, if a girl is not promised/wed by a certain age it is kind of understood that she would be open to advances from the men in her own family.

Another tradition that prevails in our community is kind of driven by lack of young women. There is rampant female foeticide and as such it is not uncommon for whole villages to not have a single daughter. In our hometown, when a girl gets married, she belongs to all the men of the family and not just the husband.

Another tradition that was quite common before female foeticide began affecting us all - that was to offer unmarried women to the local temple as the Bride of the local deity. In such cases, the family received large gifts from the community and the girl herself becomes accessible to all the men of the village, especially the rich men, the upper caste men and the village elders.

 

[vibes]

In my community, if a girl is not promised/wed by a certain age it is kind of understood that she would be open to advances from the men in her own family.

Another tradition that prevails in our community is kind of driven by lack of young women. There is rampant female foeticide and as such it is not uncommon for whole villages to not have a single daughter. In our hometown, when a girl gets married, she belongs to all the men of the family and not just the husband.

Another tradition that was quite common before female foeticide began affecting us all - that was to offer unmarried women to the local temple as the Bride of the local deity. In such cases, the family received large gifts from the community and the girl herself becomes accessible to all the men of the village, especially the rich men, the upper caste men and the village elders.

So you're talking of the present day? And isn't prenatal sex screening illegal in India?

 

[chitrashi]

So you're talking of the present day? And isn't prenatal sex screening illegal in India?

Yes I'm talking of present day traditions. Prenatal sex screening is indeed illegal, but quite rampant. It is openly practiced with connivance of all - community, doctors, labs, cops.

 

[vibes]

Yes I'm talking of present day traditions. Prenatal sex screening is indeed illegal, but quite rampant. It is openly practiced with connivance of all - community, doctors, labs, cops.

It's hard to tell what is worse

 

[CindyCD478]

I don't know where you are from, but I love your traditions.

 

[chitrashi]

I am from India. The traditions I talk of are part of my own community. There are other communities where women have a lot more freedom.

And yes I love our traditions too.

 

[screwher]

This may be a very short-lived thread, but I hope not.

There seem to be local sexual traditions that seem to be dying out with the propensity of people to move around much more these days than ever before and 'closed' communities being opened up to outside gaze. Many of these old traditions don't seem to be recorded anywhere and it would be sad to lose all awareness of them.

In many places, for example, a 'Droit du seigneur' was said to exist by which the feudal lord had first right to local virgins, though I'm not aware of any verified cases of this.

In my neck of the woods it was the tradition that a single male visitor to the house had to be offered the wife for the night. That seems to have carried through into a widespread tradition of wife-swapping in the area. However, you try to find any reference to it in books or on the internet. Maybe not surprisingly.

Any such traditions that you know of from your localities?

I have to admit part of me really digs that offering the wife to the single visitor. But then I could never have any if my friends over. As eager as I am for another man to have sex with my wife again, I don't want it to be any guy from "my side". Meaning any of my friends, coworkers, family. But any guys from her side or neutral I'd be inviting over all the time if my wife felt obligated to end up in our bed with him.

 

[GloriHoleLover]

I am from India. The traditions I talk of are part of my own community. There are other communities where women have a lot more freedom.

And yes I love our traditions too.

LOVE your local tradition of becoming the "temple bride!" What a lucky girl!!!

 

[jehoram]

In many places, for example, a 'Droit du seigneur' was said to exist by which the feudal lord had first right to local virgins, though I'm not aware of any verified cases of this.

That's been pretty much debunked as a myth, although there were instances of the feudal lord demanding some sort of monetary payment before he'd approve of a marriage. According to historians, that's probably how the legend got started.

In my neck of the woods it was the tradition that a single male visitor to the house had to be offered the wife for the night. That seems to have carried through into a widespread tradition of wife-swapping in the area. However, you try to find any reference to it in books or on the internet. Maybe not surprisingly.

I gather that this was common practice among the Inuit community of Greenland. Peter Freuchen, the Danish explorer who lived with them and took an Inuit wife, reported this in one of his books.

 

[live4thebj]

Not having sex on the 1st date is a dying tradition. In fact got some within minutes of the first meet.

 

[Justfantasies]

Where I grew up in Europe there was a lot of wife swapping in my parents generation. I know my parents did it.

But it seemed to have died out by the time I reached the right age

 

[girlyboi85]

Not having sex on the 1st date is a dying tradition. In fact got some within minutes of the first meet.

Pfft. If you're not having an interracial gangbang on your first date, you're pretty much frigid, mate.

(Joke, obviously!)

 

[Gwanji16]

In my community, if a girl is not promised/wed by a certain age it is kind of understood that she would be open to advances from the men in her own family.

Another tradition that prevails in our community is kind of driven by lack of young women. There is rampant female foeticide and as such it is not uncommon for whole villages to not have a single daughter. In our hometown, when a girl gets married, she belongs to all the men of the family and not just the husband.

Another tradition that was quite common before female foeticide began affecting us all - that was to offer unmarried women to the local temple as the Bride of the local deity. In such cases, the family received large gifts from the community and the girl herself becomes accessible to all the men of the village, especially the rich men, the upper caste men and the village elders.

Wait, what the fuck century are we in?

No disrespect intended to the poster's nationality here, but this is why a culture of rape seems to flourish in India and other places where women are merely vessels to carry babies, fuck toys, and/or virginal rewards for the upper class. This shit has got to stop. Shame on anyone who thinks this is a good tradition. It is slavery,exploitation, and murder, full stop.

 

[Sheana_V]

Most of these "traditions" come from the assumption that women are property. I have zero sympathy for those that bemoan their loss.

 

[Green_Knight]

Most of these "traditions" come from the assumption that women are property. I have zero sympathy for those that bemoan their loss.

I don't recall saying that I bemoaned their loss, any more than I do public hangings, witch burnings, cock-fighting and other barbarities that were a feature of past times. But you may have noticed that these other barbarities have been recorded and do appear in the history books and are rightly condemned, as should such 'traditions' as rape, forced marriages and similar things. Is there any reason why history should be censored as far as sexual practices and traditions are concerned?

There is, of course, no evidence to suggest that, in the case I mentioned, wives weren't very willing participants. It may even be that in summer, when farm work went on from before 5am until ten at night six or seven days a week, the husband might have become too tired to achieve the physical wherewithal to satisfy his wife and the presence of a visitor might have been welcomed by both. In the partner swapping that is a legacy of the former arrangement of making visitors welcome, wives appear to be at least as enthusiastic as the husbands. Yes, the original tradition, if it simply involved visiting men bedding the wife, would have been sexist, even if it was welcomed by the wife. Did it work the other way - did visiting women get to share the husband's bed? We simply don't know because it hasn't been recorded. We know much about the way people from the past lived their lives, from their births to their deaths and after, but precious little about their sexuality.

In these parts, where agriculture was and still is based on yeoman farming, husbands and wives were very much equal partners and it is still most obviously the case. Certainly in my research into my local ancestors, I have never come across any women in the family who gave the slightest sign of acting as if they were any man's property - indeed, quite the opposite.

 

[Mihral]

Lots of traditions around debutant season have died.

 

[vibes]

Lots of traditions around debutant season have died.

You mean the 15 year old parties?

 

[Mihral]

You mean the 15 year old parties?

Lots of things like that. Also the whole you can sleep with anyone during the season and still wear white to the wedding. Mostly things changed because of the fear of AIDS rather than anything else, people were so scared of sex they switched to drinking.

 

[vibes]

Lots of things like that. Also the whole you can sleep with anyone during the season and still wear white to the wedding. Mostly things changed because of the fear of AIDS rather than anything else, people were so scared of sex they switched to drinking.

And that's highly regrettable, although drinking tends to sex more often than not

 

[Mihral]

And that's highly regrettable, although drinking tends to sex more often than not

You never went to a ball in the early 90s, hardly anyone was able stand up let alone get it up.

 

[vibes]

You never went to a ball in the early 90s, hardly anyone was able stand up let alone get it up.

LOL you're right

 

[thisismyname112]

In many places, for example, a 'Droit du seigneur' was said to exist by which the feudal lord had first right to local virgins, though I'm not aware of any verified cases of this.

It is my understanding that this is way, way more common in TV and movies than it ever was in reality. Which is perhaps why you don't really see references to it in history books.

 

[Mihral]

It is my understanding that this is way, way more common in TV and movies than it ever was in reality. Which is perhaps why you don't really see references to it in history books.

Engles mentions it in 'The Origin of the Family…' saying that is was likely anthropological in nature. Although going on to say that getting rid of such things was a step towards proto communism. However it seems to be this that cemented the idea that it was a common practice. Partly due to Stalinist propaganda that was based on the idea that the Soviet Union was the future that Engles and Marx were writing about.
Shakespeare only mentions the lord of the manor selecting the fairest virgins to be milk maids, and milk maids were supposed to be chaste less they tainted the cheese.