Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[Adre]

You know, I don't see how anybody could possibly think otherwise, but let me make it perfectly clear to even the densest people on this board that I think Donald Trump is a terrible choice to be the next president of the United States. I also happen to think Hillary Clinton is an even worse choice, unfortunately. Now, if that isn't clear enough for anyone here, that's your problem, not mine.

We're thrilled to know all this.

 

[zipman]

What claims? The ones made by someone else, who you mistook for me?

The one below. If you want to discuss it, great. If not, that's fine too.

But I'm not a big fan of these kind of games.

We disagree about press bias. I think it's crystal clear the vast majority prefer Hillary over Trump. Crystal clear.

He got a lot more coverage than anyone else during the primaries. That's a fact.

So the real issue is that instead of his absurd and crazy comments creating jumps in popularity, they are having the opposite affect.

His appeal was to 3 main groups during the primaries.

1) People pissed off at government
2) Xenophobic racists
3) Isolationists and protectionists

His campaign was based on nothing more than fear and emotion and that's not enough to cover the crazy, ignorant and uninformed comments he's making.

If you want to blame the press. Have at it. They haven't changed at all in their coverage of him. It seems as though your complaint is that the results have changed.

 

[toubab]

The one below. If you want to discuss it, great. If not, that's fine too.

But I'm not a big fan of these kind of games.

There's nothing to discuss. I think it's obvious the vast majority of the press prefer Hillary over Trump. I don't see how you could possibly disagree, but if you do, you do. So be it.

 

[zipman]

There's nothing to discuss. I think it's obvious the vast majority of the press prefer Hillary over Trump. I don't see how you could possibly disagree, but if you do, you do. So be it.

LOL, okay. So the press should give him good coverage for acting like an asshole and making ridiculous and offensive statements.

Got it.

 

[eyerami]

I would only do that if I gave a fuck what they think about what I think.

You know, I don't see how anybody could possibly think otherwise, but let me make it perfectly clear to even the densest people on this board that I think Donald Trump is a terrible choice to be the next president of the United States. I also happen to think Hillary Clinton is an even worse choice, unfortunately. Now, if that isn't clear enough for anyone here, that's your problem, not mine.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You know, I don't see how anybody could possibly think otherwise, but let me make it perfectly clear to even the densest people on this board that I think Donald Trump is a terrible choice to be the next president of the United States. I also happen to think Hillary Clinton is an even worse choice, unfortunately. Now, if that isn't clear enough for anyone here, that's your problem, not mine.

Who will you be voting for in November?

 

[toubab]

LOL, okay. So the press should give him good coverage for acting like an asshole and making ridiculous and offensive statements.

Got it.

What the press should do is be equally tough on Hillary Clinton. Don't tell me you think they don't have cause to do so.

 

[toubab]

Who will you be voting for in November?

For president, somebody other than Hillary Clinton, or nobody at all. Haven't decided yet. I'm leaning toward Evan Bayh for Senate, but don't know that much yet about his opponent.

 

[about_average]

It's true Sarah Palin and Romney were not treated fairly by the press, but that's always the case when it comes to Republican candidates. I think the press genuinely fear Trump's election, far more than they did Palin's or Romney's.

Exactly how should the press treat an idiot?

 

[Conager]

Exactly how should the press treat an idiot?

How about the way they treated him when the desparetly hoped he would be the Republican Nominee?

The Press does this every single election cycle they pick their favorite meaning the one they hope the Democrats can beat they prop him up until he gets the nomination then suddenly he's the biggest fucking idiot on the planet.

Every candidate really every human being on the planet makes gaffs. The press goes out of their way to minimize Democrat gaffes can you imagine if George Bush had made the 57 states comment?

We're still hearing about potatoe even though that is a legitimate (if less common) way to spell the singular form of potatoes.

 

[toubab]

USC/LA Times poll: Clinton lead increases slightly

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-usc-daybreak-poll-methodology-20160714-snap-story.html

Clinton 45.0

Trump 43.8


http://cesrusc.org/election/

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Actually, I may write in a name. Or I may not vote in the presidential election at all. We shall see.

I feel that is important to vote for someone and provide a direction to those whom pay attention. One team openly wants more government and delivers, one team claims to want smaller government but never delivers when given the opportunity, one team seems to be for even more government and should never be given the opportunity and one team wants less government and will never be given the opportunity. And the last, the least, is who I will be voting for.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You know, I don't see how anybody could possibly think otherwise, but let me make it perfectly clear to even the densest people on this board that I think Donald Trump is a terrible choice to be the next president of the United States. I also happen to think Hillary Clinton is an even worse choice, unfortunately. Now, if that isn't clear enough for anyone here, that's your problem, not mine.

Same thing I say, but to the insane clown college posse, that just means that you are a Republican (and too ashamed to admit that you are a Trump voter). They have to have "enemies" to mock and make sport of; it is their only form of validation and the only way they can justify supporting the most corrupt politician in the nation, a proven liar, and someone who needs assistance in order to safely climb a short flight of stairs...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There's nothing to discuss. I think it's obvious the vast majority of the press prefer Hillary over Trump. I don't see how you could possibly disagree, but if you do, you do. So be it.

Here is the whole sum of zip's bipartisan nature.

He once voted for a Republican...

ONCE!!!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Who will you be voting for in November?

No Toubab, with SgtStupid, the only proper response (in light of the fact that you had just answered the question only a few posts prior) is to throw it back into the idiot's face and demand he tell us who he is going to vote for and then attack that choice relentlessly...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How about the way they treated him when the desparetly hoped he would be the Republican Nominee?

The Press does this every single election cycle they pick their favorite meaning the one they hope the Democrats can beat they prop him up until he gets the nomination then suddenly he's the biggest fucking idiot on the planet.

Every candidate really every human being on the planet makes gaffs. The press goes out of their way to minimize Democrat gaffes can you imagine if George Bush had made the 57 states comment?

We're still hearing about potatoe even though that is a legitimate (if less common) way to spell the singular form of potatoes.

:correctomundo:

 

[toubab]

I feel that is important to vote for someone and provide a direction to those whom pay attention. One team openly wants more government and delivers, one team claims to want smaller government but never delivers when given the opportunity, one team seems to be for even more government and should never be given the opportunity and one team wants less government and will never be given the opportunity. And the last, the least, is who I will be voting for.

Realism makes me want to not vote at all. It's impossible to get around the fact there is virtually no chance my vote will make a difference in who becomes our next president. Truth is, there is zero chance the presidency will be won or lost by one vote. Sure, you could imagine a world in which such a thing could happen, but it's not this world.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Realism makes me want to not vote at all. It's impossible to get around the fact there is virtually no chance my vote will make a difference in who becomes our next president. Truth is, there is zero chance the presidency will be won or lost by one vote. Sure, you could imagine a world in which such a thing could happen, but it's not this world.

Voting is a civic duty.

Politicians don't give a shit about those who do not show up, they do give a shit about those who showed up but did not vote for them. The down-ballot races are important and in many instances, just a few votes really matter.

 

[toubab]

Voting is a civic duty.

Politicians don't give a shit about those who do not show up, they do give a shit about those who showed up but did not vote for them. The down-ballot races are important and in many instances, just a few votes really matter.

To some degree it seems like a charade, to me. Orchestrated, start to finish, to make sure control remains in the same hands, behind the scenes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

To some degree it seems like a charade, to me. Orchestrated, start to finish, to make sure control remains in the same hands, behind the scenes.

Which is why we were given a representative government.

We were never really expected to vote for our national leaders.

It was also never really intended that we have a permanent ruling class, but it was presaged.

If we stop voting, though, I fear we throw away any chance for peaceful "revolution" by will of the oppressed.

 

[Ishmael]

Which is why we were given a representative government.

We were never really expected to vote for our national leaders.

It was also never really intended that we have a permanent ruling class, but it was presaged.

If we stop voting, though, I fear we throw away any chance for peaceful "revolution" by will of the oppressed.

There is the big difference between now and then, not technology, not any great advances in mans relationship to his fellow man or his government, it's the jump in life span. If you look at the ages required to run for Federal offices vs the avg. lifespan back then its readily apparent that term limits weren't even thought about. Natural selection took care of that for us.

A Constitutional amendment is needed to set term limits, but to set an overall cumulative limit on the number of years anyone can serve in Federal elective offices. Obviously that wouldn't preclude the dynastic tendencies we see today, but it would go a long way to stop various individuals from being able to manipulate the legislative agenda for no other reason than they've been in office far too long.

Ishmael

 

[toubab]

Which is why we were given a representative government.

We were never really expected to vote for our national leaders.

It was also never really intended that we have a permanent ruling class, but it was presaged.

If we stop voting, though, I fear we throw away any chance for peaceful "revolution" by will of the oppressed.

It was determined before the first vote was cast that Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic Party's nominee for the presidency this year. Bernie Sanders may have thought he had a chance to change that, but you saw how that went. He was an interloper, and was treated as such.

Trump is an interloper, also. You can see the attempt to beat him down as well. He is catching hell from every angle possible, from all sides, including from within the Republican Party. It will be a miracle if he wins.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I somewhat agree, but term limits would not solve the bigger problem of the rule of the unelected in the massive bureaucracy. I sometimes feel that we should just wall it off and call it "Forbidden City..."

It is in figuring out how to get the vast majority to agree to dismantling them instead of relying on them to stop the erosion of liberty.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If he does not win, it will be a miracle if the Republic survives instead of becoming a (more) Socialist state after the fashion of those to our south.

 

[Ishmael]

I somewhat agree, but term limits would not solve the bigger problem of the rule of the unelected in the massive bureaucracy. I sometimes feel that we should just wall it off and call it "Forbidden City..."

It is in figuring out how to get the vast majority to agree to dismantling them instead of relying on them to stop the erosion of liberty.

That's another problem altogether. That won't happen as long as the people see the Federal government as the solution instead of the problem. And that won't happen as long as those in power, both democrat and republican, use the treasury to buy votes.

Ishmael