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https://baltimorebrew.com/2016/06/2...cquitted-of-all-charges-in-freddie-gray-case/


The office of State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby presented evidence they said showed that Goodson failed to render aid to the injured 25-year-old on five occasions and failed to use the seat belt on him.

Prosecutors also accused Goodson of driving recklessly, causing the handcuffed and shackled Gray to bounce around inside the van and suffer a fatal neck injury.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/new...of-second-degree-murder-in-freddie-gray-case/

Prosecutors had accused Goodson of having five chances to render aid to Gray after he suffered his ultimately fatal neck injury in the back of the van, which they said demonstrated a “depraved heart.” They also accused Goodson of being the direct cause of Gray’s injuries, by driving the van recklessly so that Gray— shackled, but not restrained by a seat belt—was tossed about in the back of the van. Prosecutors said that Goodson knew Baltimore Police Department rules but broke the rules.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/us/verdict-freddie-gray-caesar-goodson-baltimore.html?_r=0

Black Lives Do Not Matter in Baltimore
 
I love how the fact Gray had just had back surgery and should have never even been out of the house and the added fact he left the house to sell drugs just gets shuffled

Onlyblacklivesmatter to the GB, ever.

ETA sorry black lives only matter on the gb if a white person is involved. When a black kills a black it doesn't count on the Gb at all, so that poor black person's life was irrelevant, because of who killed him.
 
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I agree that response here (as it was in Ferguson, where a guy had just robbed a store, roughed up the clerk, and was high on belligerence and strutting down the middle of a street when he got himself killed while challenging and struggling with a cop) has been unbalanced. Although I think the cops went beyond with Gray (and should be getting more than "not guilty" results), he was no innocent kitten.

We're getting something similar where I live--appointment of a task force to look into why a disproportionate number of blacks are getting arrested to whites. Well, it's because they are committing a disproportionate number of crimes and have been raised to raise hell and show the finger to authority. Yeah, in an ideal world blacks shouldn't have to be under scrutiny more than whites, but white prejudice isn't the base reason they are. The problem is a lot closer to how the blacks are being raised (and, yes, the history of prejudice toward them in involved in where they've wound up, but just balancing your arrest demographics isn't the solution--it's not just the whites who have to change their attitudes).
 
Goodness gracious, he must be guilty!

Which is what one typically thinks when you only listen to the prosecution side of the story. But then the defense presented and the evidence showed he was not guilty.
 
Doesn't really apply here. The public got coverage of what went down on this from every angle. It wasn't just from the prosecution's point of view. (Come to think of it, I can't think of an example where the prosecution's view would be the only one someone--anyone--would get--that would take a lot of avoidance contortioning.)
 
since you don't work, and live in the projects ... what are you doing to do?

oh yeah, demand for more welfare




I agree that response here (as it was in Ferguson, where a guy had just robbed a store, roughed up the clerk, and was high on belligerence and strutting down the middle of a street when he got himself killed while challenging and struggling with a cop) has been unbalanced. Although I think the cops went beyond with Gray (and should be getting more than "not guilty" results), he was no innocent kitten.

We're getting something similar where I live--appointment of a task force to look into why a disproportionate number of blacks are getting arrested to whites. Well, it's because they are committing a disproportionate number of crimes and have been raised to raise hell and show the finger to authority. Yeah, in an ideal world blacks shouldn't have to be under scrutiny more than whites, but white prejudice isn't the base reason they are. The problem is a lot closer to how the blacks are being raised (and, yes, the history of prejudice toward them in involved in where they've wound up, but just balancing your arrest demographics isn't the solution--it's not just the whites who have to change their attitudes).
 
...I can't think of an example where the prosecution's view would be the only one someone--anyone--would get--that would take a lot of avoidance contortioning.)

Sorry man! I was actually replying to the OP, who posted a comment only using the prosecution's view.
 
We're not working for Liberty Mutual anymore Marilyn. Another liberal media darling exposed for her incompetence.
 
No, the buck did not stop, where it should have. The most senior officer, did not take responsibility. He did not do the right thing. He covered his own arse. He took part in evil, and broke his vow. This man who should have been held responsible, is cleared of all charges.

He stuck his chest out with big macho pride, taking pleasure in his position and power over others, but took none of the responsibility that went with it.

Something is very fucked up with the justice system, when all the science stands on the victim's side, and the victim gets no justice at all.

This is rotten, but not unexpected. The judge knows which side of his bread is buttered.
 
At least the government is trying to gain convictions. There does not appear to be any shenanigans on the part of the prosecutors. They are going after the cops involved with every argument they have. Charges seem to be brought in most of the cop/black shootings/deaths that make the news as unjustified. They just don't seem to be able to get convictions.

Not much consolation to victims and families but at least the government is trying.
 
At least the government is trying to gain convictions. There does not appear to be any shenanigans on the part of the prosecutors. They are going after the cops involved with every argument they have. Charges seem to be brought in most of the cop/black shootings/deaths that make the news as unjustified. They just don't seem to be able to get convictions.

Not much consolation to victims and families but at least the government is trying.

Some of the shootings are justified, such as the Mike Brown case, but this does not become public knowledge until long after the shooting happens. The news media tends to report what they consider newsworthy. Cops are acquitted because they are innocent of wrongdoing.

I did say "some;" I did not say all.
 
Some of the shootings are justified, such as the Mike Brown case, but this does not become public knowledge until long after the shooting happens. The news media tends to report what they consider newsworthy. Cops are acquitted because they are innocent of wrongdoing.

I did say "some;" I did not say all.

So ok, some shootings are justified, others are not. Agreed?

Who has been convicted of unjustified shooting? None, or close to it.

Therein lies the rub. The main issue is not that there are some bad cops or even some otherwise good cops that make fatal mistakes. It's that when they do, they appear to get away with it.
 
So ok, some shootings are justified, others are not. Agreed?

Who has been convicted of unjustified shooting? None, or close to it.

Therein lies the rub. The main issue is not that there are some bad cops or even some otherwise good cops that make fatal mistakes. It's that when they do, they appear to get away with it.

Here is one, and I can find quite a few more. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/n...atal-shooting-of-akai-gurley-in-brooklyn.html

I hope you are aware of the concept of innocent until proven guilty. This applies to police too.
 
Here is one, and I can find quite a few more. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/n...atal-shooting-of-akai-gurley-in-brooklyn.html

I hope you are aware of the concept of innocent until proven guilty. This applies to police too.

Note that I said appear. And close to none.

Also, this was a very different case from the ones in the news. Literally an accidental discharge hitting a complete bystander. Not a police officer using excessive lethal force in an altercation.
 
At least the government is trying to gain convictions. There does not appear to be any shenanigans on the part of the prosecutors. They are going after the cops involved with every argument they have. Charges seem to be brought in most of the cop/black shootings/deaths that make the news as unjustified. They just don't seem to be able to get convictions.

Not much consolation to victims and families but at least the government is trying.

Maybe it's because the evidence 1) Nonexistent? 2) Charges were brought to pacify the Baltimore's Black residents.

That doesn't mean the cops don't do wrong but clearly the judge doesn't think so. Mosby= incompetent
 
Of their own free will, people delude themselves, and blind themselves to scientific facts

Only the universes know why.

But, it certainly is not to be generous, kind, or helpful.

Angela Rye Shows Extreme Restraint Debating CNN Guest Claiming #FreddieGray ‘Jumped Around’ in Van'

July 27, 2016


Angela Rye and Scottie Nell Hughes spar over the announcement that Baltimore prosecutors will drop the charges of the remaining officers involved in the death of Freddie Gray.

"...says that Gray was responsible for his own death."

"that he “jumped around in van.”

" Gray’s mother was not on the DNC stage last night proving that the officers were in the right."

This is enough to cause inanimate object to cry human tears and sob out loud.

There are people that still believe that the idea of the "Wilding Teens, " is a real thing.

They never bothered to look at the real story. It is not worth researching, but it is still convenient to use the myth as an excuse.


The information is at our fingertips, in 2016 But, so is social media.
When the boys lived under the threat of death by execution, no one had a smartphone.


The media outlets made profits from the sensationalism, but where were the journalists, to question the story ?


http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/07...st-claiming-freddiegray-jumped-around-in-van/

People screamed for the teens to be given the death penalty.

The death penalty had been reinstated in New York since 1995
It was subsequently abolished in 2007

Matias Reyes, a violent serial rapist and murderer already serving life inside, came forward and confessed to the Central Park rape. He stated that he had acted by himself. A re-examination of DNA evidence proved it was his semen alone found on Meili’s body, and just before Christmas that year, the convictions against each member of the Central Park Five were vacated by New York’s supreme court.

Following a 14-year court battle, the Central Park Five settled a civil case with the city for $41m in 2014.


It did not take many men to lend their lies to cloud over the death of Freddie Gray.

It did not take many men to lend their lies to cloud over the truth of the Central Park Five.
 
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