Radical Islam my asshole....

[LadyFunkenstein]

This had nothing to do with religion is my greater point.

He was a homo-phobe slash guy with homosexual thoughts and he lost his cool "Big League"

This guy was a garden variety loser and this has zero to do with religion or ideology.

In my opinion.

You are wrong. This is about radical Islam. Democrats refusal to admit it is going to get Trump elected. Mark my words.

 

[Hard_Rom]

You are wrong. This is about radical Islam. Democrats refusal to admit it is going to get Trump elected. Mark my words.

This is about a bigoted wife beater who was a failure and this was his way of going down in history. The radical Islam is just a hook to get us believing he was a somebody.

 

[Killswitch1]

You are wrong. This is about radical Islam. Democrats refusal to admit it is going to get Trump elected. Mark my words.

This is about homophobia. Period.

Its no more islam related than if I mowed down a busload of orphans and left a manifesto claiming it was in support for la Cosa Nostra.

Its a smokescreen. And you're buying into it.

Not only is he going to lose the election he will lose it "big league" by ten points at least. maybe the biggest loss in presidential history and he is gonna take down fifteen senate seats and as many republican governors.

Mark my words.

 

[Libsam]

Its why I said "almost to your door." And trust me the paperwork where I live is name address phone number and theres no back ground checks that I am aware of.

I've bought two firearms basically this same way.

Plus.....a federally licensed firearms dealer in this country can mean Billy Bob the Hillrod out on the Farm.

You should see the low life I picked my guns up from, but hes a registered dealer

There is not one state in the union that doesn't require a background check when transferring a firearm through a FFL dealer.

To get an FFL, the government does a background check and takes fingerprints.

If you don't like the "scumbag" you transfer guns through, you should find someone else that passes your judgmental bias. If this "scumbag" is doing something illegal, you should report him.

 

[Ldy_Sea]

Its why I said "almost to your door." And trust me the paperwork where I live is name address phone number and theres no back ground checks that I am aware of.

I've bought two firearms basically this same way.

Plus.....a federally licensed firearms dealer in this country can mean Billy Bob the Hillrod out on the Farm.

You should see the low life I picked my guns up from, but hes a registered dealer

Again not true ATF form 4473 is four pages long and you sign it under penalty of perjury.

Also the federal government requires a background check on every gun purchased (new or used) from anyone who has an FFL. You may not have realized it but he took the form, and your ID and called a dedicated 800 number and provided your info and got an approval number for the sale.

 

[Killswitch1]

There is not one state in the union that doesn't require a background check when transferring a firearm through a FFL dealer.

To get an FFL, the government does a background check and takes fingerprints.

If you don't like the "scumbag" you transfer guns through, you should find someone else that passes you personal judgmental bias. If this "scumbag" is doing something illegal, you should report him.

Most people with FFL's are farmers, gun nuts, and re sellers of weaponry and they aint a bunch of democrats either is all I am saying.

They arent doing any thing illegal to my knowledge which is also the point. The laws need adjusted to meet the times. This aint 1776 with muskets and you should not be able to buy half the weaponry you can buy today.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

This is about a bigoted wife beater who was a failure and this was his way of going down in history. The radical Islam is just a hook to get us believing he was a somebody.

You are only speaking on what you hope to be true; the reality is that you have no idea. . Dude was a loser, but without radical Islam this would not have happened. That we know. The only "hook" being presented is that he isn't a real Muslim and must be a self hating closeted homosexual. No one knows that

Sometimes our hopes are wrong. Open up your mind and wait for the facts. You know nothing and neither do I. Stop making a fool of yourself with ignorant, agenda-filled pronouncements.

 

[Ldy_Sea]

The fact you can even buy an assault rifle I think is the point.

Why don't you people just have another rebellion and put in place a government that you trust. You didn't like a constitutional monarchy. You don't trust a republican model. Try a theocracy. It would seem to be quite a popular form.

Would you prefer only criminals and terrorists had them?

France bans the sale of all guns to citizens. How many died in that attack?

Prisons don't allow inmates to own guns, knives drugs or other contraband. Ask any CO how many of these items are found daily.

Chicago has lots of anti gun laws. How many are shot dead there each week?

The recent shooting in Ca. That happened in a gun free zone in a state with strict gun laws.

banning guns will not solve anything. Criminals will still get them. If they can't they will use planes, fertilizer, cars, poison gas, and anything else.

People have been killing each other since Cain killed Able. probablyy before. They will be killing each other when gunpowder is obsolete. It's not the weapon, it's the person.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

This is about homophobia. Period.

Its no more islam related than if I mowed down a busload of orphans and left a manifesto claiming it was in support for la Cosa Nostra.

Its a smokescreen. And you're buying into it.

Not only is he going to lose the election he will lose it "big league" by ten points at least. maybe the biggest loss in presidential history and he is gonna take down fifteen senate seats and as many republican governors.

Mark my words.

Time will tell, this won't take long.

Too bad you dummies won't listen to me and instead will hand the election to a looney toon.

But again time will tell.

 

[Killswitch1]

Again not true ATF form 4473 is four pages long and you sign it under penalty of perjury.

Also the federal government requires a background check on every gun purchased (new or used) from anyone who has an FFL. You may not have realized it but he took the form, and your ID and called a dedicated 800 number and provided your info and got an approval number for the sale.

All formalities. I got the gun in days. How much of a background check was done?

Please.

Point is I shouldn't be able to buy an assault rifle or a ton of ammonium sulfate either.

Instead of accusing an entire religion of 1.6 billion people of being shitheads....lets look at how we dole out shit that is designed to kill people in this country and who has...and who has access to this crap.

Im as pro gun and as pro second amendment as they come and I own three firearms.

 

[Killswitch1]

Time will tell, this won't take long.

Too bad you dummies won't listen to me and instead will hand the election to a looney toon.

But again time will tell.

LF they haven't even started on Trump. Just wait for the ad's of him mocking women, and that handicapped guy. Clintons "machine" is sitting there ready to squish this fool.

They just dont see the need to start with the heavy artillary because he's their best spokesperson and looks so stupid talking it's amazing.

He has 25 million hard core supporters and 25 million dollars in his campaign.

He needs 150 million more supporters and another Billion dollars.

Clinton has 100 Million voters and a billion dollars to spend.

We will see. Oh we sure will. We are gonna see Donald Trump get humiliated and take down half the republican party at the same time.

I am starting to almost believe he is a democratic plant....and this is all the biggest hoax played on the public since Moses came down from Mt Sinai.

 

[Ishmael]

All formalities. I got the gun in days. How much of a background check was done?

Please.

Point is I shouldn't be able to buy an assault rifle or a ton of ammonium sulfate either.

Instead of accusing an entire religion of 1.6 billion people of being shitheads....lets look at how we dole out shit that is designed to kill people in this country and who has...and who has access to this crap.

Im as pro gun and as pro second amendment as they come and I own three firearms.

The point is that you CAN'T purchase an assault weapon without a class III license. None such weapons are sitting on your local gun dealers shelf.

But by all means, carry on with your ignorance.

Ishmael

 

[boogerflipper]

Its why I said "almost to your door." And trust me the paperwork where I live is name address phone number and theres no back ground checks that I am aware of.

I've bought two firearms basically this same way.

Plus.....a federally licensed firearms dealer in this country can mean Billy Bob the Hillrod out on the Farm.

You should see the low life I picked my guns up from, but hes a registered dealer

Are you're actually stating you purchased two firearms from a registered dealer without a background check being done on you? Because, if that's the case, you are now committing felonies by illegally possessing them, and the dealer committed a couple by delivering them to you without that background check.

Or are you just lying?

Better hope you don't have any enemies on this site because publicly admitted illegal possession of handguns will definitely get the law interested in you.

 

[Saint Peter]

The cat is out of the bag. So many guns on the street. So many high capacity clips. Semi auto guns can be turned into full auto will simple to use kits.

Laws are only going to do so much.

We are fucked. Get some Kevlar undies. Build a bunker in your back yard.

We are fucked.

 

[Killswitch1]

Are you're actually stating you purchased two firearms from a registered dealer without a background check being done on you? Because, if that's the case, you are now committing felonies by illegally possessing them, and the dealer committed a couple by delivering them to you without that background check.

Or are you just lying?

Better hope you don't have any enemies on this site because publicly admitted illegal possession of handguns will definitely get the law interested in you.

lol.

Not even worth my time.

 

[Killswitch1]

The point is that you CAN'T purchase an assault weapon without a class III license. None such weapons are sitting on your local gun dealers shelf.

But by all means, carry on with your ignorance.

Ishmael

Oh here they come. The AR15's are not assault rifles according to Merriam Webster crowd.

Fuck off. I know exactly what an ar15 is and have fired them many times. My girlfriend has one in her bedroom closet ffs.

 

[Ishmael]

Oh here they come. The AR!5's are not assault rifles according to merriam webster crowd.

Fuck off. I know exactly what an ar15 is and have fired them many times. My girlfriend has one in her bedroom closet ffs.

Well then you know its NOT an assault weapon. It's just a semi-automatic rifle that aside from cosmetics is no different than hundreds of other models available out there.

Ishmael

 

[Ldy_Sea]

All formalities. I got the gun in days. How much of a background check was done?

Please.

Point is I shouldn't be able to buy an assault rifle or a ton of ammonium sulfate either.

Instead of accusing an entire religion of 1.6 billion people of being shitheads....lets look at how we dole out shit that is designed to kill people in this country and who has...and who has access to this crap.

Im as pro gun and as pro second amendment as they come and I own three firearms.

Your name DL # and SSN were run through the FBI's NCIC- National Crime Information Center which houses data on every arrest, order of protection and more. It's the same system that is used every time you're stopped by a cop to check for warrants and arrest records.

NO one ever said all 1.6 Billion were terrorists. But in 1939 in Germany there were 45 million people of which 7-10 percent were Nazi's. Look at the havoc caused by around 4.5 million true believers.

Now if only 7-10% of Muslims are extremists that's 160 Million. Even 1 percent is 16 million extremists. Four times the number of true Nazis during WWII. The Muslim extremists are in every country in the world and they are recruiting native born people.

The purpose of the 2A is to ensure the citizenry can overthrow a tyrannical government, not for hunting. Therefore the only way to do that is to have weapons similar to those of the military. Look up the Battle for Athens 1946

Before you say private citizens can't defeat a modern military please explain how the Afghan people beat the Russians, or the Vietnamese beat the US. Both wars showed that a modern army can be defeated by a committed and dedicated foe with less equipment and little support.

 

[boogerflipper]

lol.

Not even worth my time.

Never is to those full of shit.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Would you prefer only criminals and terrorists had them? *yes*.

France bans the sale of all guns to citizens. How many died in that attack? *Florida has lax gun laws how many died there?*

Prisons don't allow inmates to own guns, knives drugs or other contraband. Ask any CO how many of these items are found daily. *of course a place that concentrates criminals in one spot will be rife with criminal activity*

Chicago has lots of anti gun laws. How many are shot dead there each week? *not enough laws apparently*

The recent shooting in Ca. That happened in a gun free zone in a state with strict gun laws. *not strict enough apparently*

banning guns will not solve anything. Criminals will still get them. If they can't they will use planes, fertilizer, cars, poison gas, and anything else. *criminals don't obey laws*

People have been killing each other since Cain killed Able. probablyy before. They will be killing each other when gunpowder is obsolete. It's not the weapon, it's the person.* but if the person cannot get a gun then at least the body count is lower*

You don't fucking get it. Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zeeland all similar countries to the US do not have anything close to the 10,00 gun deaths a year as in the US. Gun control works. If you let it. You have 10 times our population yet gun one another down at 20 times the rate. By population we have 1/2 the gun death rate you do. And if a source of illegal guns (the US) was eliminated we could have an even lower rate.

You allow AR guns to be owned by the public. Handguns are every where. Hate speech is equated with free speech. Why don't you all shut the fuck up with your hypocrisy and bemoaning the dead. You all share in the reasons those people died. Not just the killer himself. Every last American who supports the 2nd amendment bears some responsibility.

Get rid of your guns or shut the fuck up about mass killings. You want your guns? Then live with the thousands killed every year. And quit bitching.

Your house is burning down and you gave the arsonist the matches!

 

[Killswitch1]

Well then you know its NOT an assault weapon. It's just a semi-automatic rifle that aside from cosmetics is no different than hundreds of other models available out there.

Ishmael

We can play semantics another day. Point is...you sell guns with thirty round clips and cheap enough ammo and blamo.

Hello Newtown?

I dont have all and or maybe any answers. All I know is somethings got to be done to try to limit the number of these types of weapons in the hands of every day people.

I think....the founders would agree.

 

[pensivepoet]

You can buy an assault rifle with ammo online, on credit and have it delivered almost to your door in America.

Nothing suspicious about that either.

I'm not arguing with your original point KS.
I'm just sayin a couple trips to SA is kinda spendy for a lowlife, and I'm pretty sure what and who he met over there influenced him some.
At least enough for an excuse to go ape shit crazy over here.
He was a nobody.
Isis just got lucky and will use his crazy to recruit more crazies.
A new poster boy sans virgins.

 

[Killswitch1]

Your name DL # and SSN were run through the FBI's NCIC- National Crime Information Center which houses data on every arrest, order of protection and more. It's the same system that is used every time you're stopped by a cop to check for warrants and arrest records.

NO one ever said all 1.6 Billion were terrorists. But in 1939 in Germany there were 45 million people of which 7-10 percent were Nazi's. Look at the havoc caused by around 4.5 million true believers.

Now if only 7-10% of Muslims are extremists that's 160 Million. Even 1 percent is 16 million extremists. Four times the number of true Nazis during WWII. The Muslim extremists are in every country in the world and they are recruiting native born people.

The purpose of the 2A is to ensure the citizenry can overthrow a tyrannical government, not for hunting. Therefore the only way to do that is to have weapons similar to those of the military. Look up the Battle for Athens 1946

Before you say private citizens can't defeat a modern military please explain how the Afghan people beat the Russians, or the Vietnamese beat the US. Both wars showed that a modern army can be defeated by a committed and dedicated foe with less equipment and little support.

Oh Ok, then I want two Phalanx CIWS so I can mount one on my truck and one on top of my house.

I cant find them on Amazon.

lol

I bet I can kill a deer or two with this thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0ZAGOuaqg

 

[Ldy_Sea]

You don't fucking get it. Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zeeland all similar countries to the US do not have anything close to the 10,00 gun deaths a year as in the US. Gun control works. If you let it. You have 10 times our population yet gun one another down at 20 times the rate. By population we have 1/2 the gun death rate you do. And if a source of illegal guns (the US) was eliminated we could have an even lower rate.

You allow AR guns to be owned by the public. Handguns are every where. Hate speech is equated with free speech. Why don't you all shut the fuck up with your hypocrisy and bemoaning the dead. You all share in the reasons those people died. Not just the killer himself. Every last American who supports the 2nd amendment bears some responsibility.

Get rid of your guns or shut the fuck up about mass killings. You want your guns? Then live with the thousands killed every year. And quit bitching.

Your house is burning down and you gave the arsonist the matches!

NO they don't. I will agree they don't have gun deaths. But the murder rate per capita is very similar. Europe has 2.1 murders per 100K people US has 3.8 per 100K not a big difference in the actual murder rate.

Take out the 4 worst cities in America for homicide (Detroit, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and Chicago) and the US murder rate drops to match Australia per Capita rate of 1.0, lower than Eurppes. Those four cities have the strictest gun control laws in the country, and the highest number of shootings.

Seems to me it's not a gun issue it's a human issue.

So who is to blame for the poison gas released in Londons tube back in the 80's? Mexican restaurants? Or maybne it's people who wish to do evil and use what ever tool they can.

 

[Hard_Rom]

NO they don't. I will agree they don't have gun deaths. But the murder rate per capita is very similar. Europe has 2.1 murders per 100K people US has 3.8 per 100K not a big difference in the actual murder rate.

Take out the 4 worst cities in America for homicide (Detroit, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and Chicago) and the US murder rate drops to match Australia per Capita rate of 1.0, lower than Eurppes. Those four cities have the strictest gun control laws in the country, and the highest number of shootings.

Seems to me it's not a gun issue it's a human issue.

So who is to blame for the poison gas released in Londons tube back in the 80's? Mexican restaurants? Or maybne it's people who wish to do evil and use what ever tool they can.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

US 3.8
Canada 1.4
UK 1.0
Australia 1.0
New Zealand .9

More than twice the next similar country. More than 3x the others. Apparently guns are just your favourite way to murder one another at twice to three times the rate of allies and cousins.

At least the US is safer than Iran. Although Mozambique is safer.