Hoo boy, SIA, underage question.

[DiscipleN]

Pardon the long lead into to a specific question. Touchy subject, as you know.

Am expecting the answer will be, No. That won't trouble me. Walking the line between what is acceptable by Lit., re: underage, and what will be rejected is a risk I'm fine with.

Example of what I believe is acceptable:

"June kept to herself while breastfeeding 4 year old Jimmy at the mall."

The only eroticism is what a reader brings to the description. There is no sexual action involved.


Here is a passage from a work I'm crafting. It's the only passage like it in the story. All other action is 18 or older. I hope that it's okay, but I sense it's risky. The characters John and Grady are known to be underage by the time the reader encounters:

"When Grady found John with me, he demanded me the next day."


In commercial fiction, a line like the one above, and in the same context, is under every publisher's radar. I'm not trying to tell Lit. what to allow. I want to be sure about what they don't.


advice appreciated

 

[HandsInTheDark]

It's one sentence and it doesn't describe a sexual act or even delve into the emotional context. I think it would pass muster here, though you might want to find a softer word than "demanded." Demanding something doesn't make it non-con, since people can demand things all day and never get them, but I've seen people get the vapors over less strong language than that. And you never want even a hint of non-con near even a hint of underage. You could just say "When Joe caught me with Frank, he smiled at me, slowly and meaningfully." The intention is obvious but the implication of coercion is gone.

But consider the possibility that the line you mentioned might not be needed. Unless it advances the plot, why bring it up at all?

 

[lovecraft68]

Pardon the long lead into to a specific question. Touchy subject, as you know.

Am expecting the answer will be, No. That won't trouble me. Walking the line between what is acceptable by Lit., re: underage, and what will be rejected is a risk I'm fine with.

Example of what I believe is acceptable:

"June kept to herself while breastfeeding 4 year old Jimmy at the mall."

The only eroticism is what a reader brings to the description. There is no sexual action involved.


Here is a passage from a work I'm crafting. It's the only passage like it in the story. All other action is 18 or older. I hope that it's okay, but I sense it's risky. The characters John and Grady are known to be underage by the time the reader encounters:

"When Grady found John with me, he demanded me the next day."


In commercial fiction, a line like the one above, and in the same context, is under every publisher's radar. I'm not trying to tell Lit. what to allow. I want to be sure about what they don't.


advice appreciated

Is four old for breast feeding? June is going to raise a mama's boy wuss with an Oedipus complex. He'll be reading incest stories here in no time!

I think that would be okay and the second example I am pretty sure would fly as long as you leave it that simple and don't embellish. Unlike the prior post I won't tell you how to write and what word choices to use. I leave that to the real pros around here.

 

[DiscipleN]

...consider the possibility that the line you mentioned might not be needed. Unless it advances the plot, why bring it up at all?

Because it illuminates the situation of the character speaking that sentence, which invites sympathy for the character.

 

[jehoram]

I've written stories about breast-feeding women, one of which was accepted on this site without any problem:

https://www.literotica.com/s/a-very-private-beach-ch-05

But the kids were toddlers, somewhat younger than the four-year-old. Not that it makes any difference really, since some cultures have no problem with breast-feeding kids for longer periods than that. I think we eroticize the subject a bit too much in our culture.

 

[Ldy_Sea]

I've read stories on here, one example is where a characters backstory is revealed that she was a victim of incest by male relatives until she ran away, then she worked as a hooker before turning legal.

She got preg and after having her daughter, she continued with her career. She found some men would offer lots of money for her daughter so she pimped out her daughter as early as 4.

While the story fleshed out the details of the characters backstory which was necessary to explain why and how they got where they are, there was no description of the sexual aspects, just statements that sex happened. That was the most extreme example of underage sex I've seen on this site.

I've read other stories where characters admit to losing their virginity at 15, but as long as the sex is not described it should pass muster.

I even have one story that starts with my characters around 15 or so, but the sex is implied, ie they disappeared at a party and returned several minutes later looking sweaty and disheveled.

Also you have to be careful with descriptions if you say your character is 18, but describe budding breasts and wispy strands of pubic hair, and other signs of puberty then you could face a problem.

 

[DiscipleN]

...as long as the sex is not described it should pass muster.

Thank you! That is what I was hoping the rule would be. (although, I expect it's not a hard rule. Different reviewers...)

I just finished the free writing today. I'll rewrite it for another week, while I attempt to find an editor here. The story is about an adult couple, but they live in a time and place in America where the rules about age of consent were very different. It's important for the story mention some of the stuff that happened but does not require the details.

 

[sr71plt]

Once it's submitted, let us know if it got posted or not.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Thank you! That is what I was hoping the rule would be. (although, I expect it's not a hard rule. Different reviewers...)

I just finished the free writing today. I'll rewrite it for another week, while I attempt to find an editor here. The story is about an adult couple, but they live in a time and place in America where the rules about age of consent were very different. It's important for the story mention some of the stuff that happened but does not require the details.

The Lit rule is that a story should not have sexual connections between under 18's. Breastfeeding babies seems OK.

I see your dilemma but sexual connections that break the rule will not be allowed . Even if historic.

 

[DiscipleN]

The Lit rule is that a story should not have sexual connections between under 18's.

What does the word, "connection" mean in that context? Is there a detailed explanation of what Literotica means by that? Are implied connections rejected as well as expressed connections?

"Two fifteen year-olds, married in Texas, with their consent and the consent of their parents, conceived a child." Would that sentence be rejected by literotica? It very clearly implies a sexual connection between underage people.

 

[sr71plt]

What does the word, "connection" mean in that context? Is there a detailed explanation of what Literotica means by that? Are implied connections rejected as well as expressed connections?

"Two fifteen year-olds, married in Texas, with their consent and the consent of their parents, conceived a child." Would that sentence be rejected by literotica? It very clearly implies a sexual connection between underage people.

That probably would make it through, but the point here is that no one on the forum can tell you where the edge is--only the sole submissions editor, Laurel, can do that. So, you really are just spinning wheels now to ask more questions of the forum. Write it up and submit it and work from there. If it's rejected you have the choice of rewriting and submitting again or just not posting it to this particular Web site.

 

[DiscipleN]

Write it up and submit it and work from there. If it's rejected you have the choice of rewriting and submitting again or just not posting it to this particular Web site.

That's my plan, but it's not as straight forward as you suggest. I will post here the results, either way.

In the past, feedback for a rejected submission has lacked specifics. It recommends having an editor review it, who will have their own opinion of what is valid and what isn't. I will find an editor here before I submit the work. But Nabokov would have fled Lit after his first try. : - )

 

[sr71plt]

And your issue gets discussed here twice a week--when the only way to find out if your story will fly is to submit it to the only one who will decide if it will fly.

 

[Bramblethorn]

That's my plan, but it's not as straight forward as you suggest. I will post here the results, either way.

In the past, feedback for a rejected submission has lacked specifics. It recommends having an editor review it, who will have their own opinion of what is valid and what isn't. I will find an editor here before I submit the work. But Nabokov would have fled Lit after his first try. : - )

Lolita would not be accepted for publication here. In some ways Lit and other erotica sites are more restrictive about that stuff than "respectable" publishers.

 

[lovecraft68]

Lolita would not be accepted for publication here. In some ways Lit and other erotica sites are more restrictive about that stuff than "respectable" publishers.

They are and I guess its because in fiction sex acts are a part of a story, not the full draw of the story.

For example take a brutal rape scene from a book like Girl with a dragon tattoo, it was a rough seen but a small part of a large work and furthered the plot showing things about the character.

In erotic form a rape like that-which would break the rules here-would be the only reason the person is reading, its the focal point of the story.

So no one cares if King throws a few hundred words of underage sex in a 800 page book, but a 10k underage story here, is going to draw nothing but the wrong crowd.

 

[DiscipleN]

...but a 10k underage story here, is going to draw nothing but the wrong crowd.

I totally get that. I've seen entire websites, with thousands of members, fall, their community poisoned from single-purposed visitors being obnoxious by over-sharing and dissing what others were interested in. Once a website falls, the poisoners have to find a new place to get their fix. Scary, really.

There ARE nice people who incorporate underage into their fantasies, but that's to discuss on a different thread, probably on another website.

Again, I'll post here what happens after I submit my story. Still have editing to do by myself, (plain text is ~130k) then to find a Lit editor. It blows my mind that so many people volunteer here to perform work I can hardly stand to do myself. Thank you, Literotica community! May you never be poisoned.

 

[sr71plt]

Again, I'll post here what happens after I submit my story. Still have editing to do by myself, (plain text is ~130k) then to find a Lit editor. It blows my mind that so many people volunteer here to perform work I can hardly stand to do myself. Thank you, Literotica community! May you never be poisoned.

You might feel a little different after trying to get a volunteer here to edit 130,000 words.