NYC To Start Issuing “High Salt” Fines To City Restaurants…

[Busybody]

NEW YORK (AP) — New York City plans to start enforcing a first-of-its-kind requirement for chain restaurants to use icons to warn patrons of salty foods after getting an appeals court’s go-ahead Thursday to start issuing fines. But it’s not the final word on whether the regulation will stand.

The novel rule took effect in December, and some eateries already have added the requisite salt-shaker-like icons to menu items that contain more salt than doctors recommend ingesting in an entire day.

But penalties have been in limbo as the National Restaurant Association fights the measure in court. That clash is ongoing, but an appeals court Thursday lifted a temporary hold on issuing the fines while the case plays out. Fines can be up to $600.

The city will start enforcing the rule June 6.

Democratic Mayor Bill de Blasio applauded the appeals court’s decision on what he called “a common-sense regulation that will help New Yorkers make better decisions and lead healthier lives.” The city won the first round of the lawsuit in a trial court in February; the restaurant association appealed.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/local-news/145569935-story

 

[Busybody]

if KILLING BABIES

is a CHOICE

why isnt eating HIGH SALT a CHOICE?

 

[phrodeau]

First to be fined will be: http://www.trump.com/entertainment/dining/

 

[JeanLaFlu]

There is no socialism in the womb: it's simply the natural governance of one individual human life nurturing another individual human life (or that one individual human life intentionally and tortuously killing the other individual human life simply for convenience).

In the case of the intentional killing, socialism never enters the picture, but once that individual human life is born from the womb, then socialism begins to wage it's lifelong tyrannical oppression against that individual, just as it inherently does against every individual, its oppression spanning literally every conceivable concept - like friggin' "High Salt".

The individual's natural quest is to be free, just as the socialist's natural quest is to control.

Fvck socialists.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Oh no, requiring restaurants to INFORM consumers that some of their dishes include in a single serving more sodium than one should ingest in an entire day is SOCIALISM!

Fucking EyerTheLiar has yet another new throwaway alt to be banned?

Note that despite DizzyBooby's insinuation that those dishes are to be removed from menus is completely unfounded *surprise!*.. Guess what? You can still choose to eat those menu items, KNOWING that you're consuming more than the daily recommendation of sodium in the process, the rule only requires that the restaurant inform you of this fact before hand.

Oh No!

 

[BotanyBoy]

if KILLING BABIES

is a CHOICE

why isnt eating HIGH SALT a CHOICE?

Where are they removing the choice to eat high salt foods?

Also Choice implies one is informed of options....this informs the consumer of their options giving them choice, not taking it away.

You couldn't me more backwards on this one BB.

B2B4EVA

 

[Real_American17]

Oh no, requiring restaurants to INFORM consumers that some of their dishes include in a single serving more sodium than one should ingest in an entire day is SOCIALISM!

Yes you degenerate piece of scum, if you want restaurants to inform you then vote with your dollar you filthy animal!

Patron restaurants that list nutritional information, others will adopt the same practice in order to get your money...

Simple free-market, no need for your fucking nanny state.

How about instead of more laws governing restaurant menus we have less laws governing small gardens and micro-livestock in people's yards?

That's because it's not about getting people to eat healthy, it's about the State getting more control over our lives!

Also Choice implies one is informed of options....this informs the consumer of their options giving them choice, not taking it away.

You have the choice to eat at a restaurant that caters to your niche market demand.

If a large enough segment of the customers valued that, then you would see businesses changing their menus... as it is the number is small and there are restaurants that target that type of customer.

Eat at one of the many health-minded food shacks.

 

[phrodeau]

I keep seeing these "kosher" labels on things. What possible reason do we need to see that?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You have the choice to eat at a restaurant that caters to your niche market demand.

Eat at one of the many health-minded food shacks.

How are we as a consumer supposed to know what we are consuming if the restaurant doesn't offer the most basic information on their products?

There is nothing wrong with forcing companies to disclose potential hazards and make available the basic contents of their products to consumers.

If a large enough segment of the customers valued that, then you would see businesses changing their menus... as it is the number is small and there are restaurants that target that type of customer.

That has never been the case....from snake oil to McDiddles.

Ignorance is bliss but it doesn't promote consumer choice.

 

[JeanLaFlu]

Lemmings feel safe and secure in what they eat as long as their socialist government is fully in charge of every facet of what they eat - including forcefully dictating that their lemmings be informed of what they're eating totally according to federal government standards, which habitually change with the wind, change that many times totally contradicts the former standard.

While the Mafia still hemorrhages green with envy at the continued success of such a totalitarian racket fed obese by the absolutely insecure trust of its lemmings.

 

[phrodeau]

Lemmings feel safe and secure in what they eat as long as their socialist government is fully in charge of every facet of what they eat - including forcefully dictating that their lemmings be informed of what they're eating totally according to federal government standards, which habitually change with the wind, change that many times totally contradicts the former standard.

While the Mafia still hemorrhages green with envy at the continued success of such a totalitarian racket fed obese by the absolutely insecure trust of its lemmings.

I'm sure that the people of Flint Michigan completely agree.

 

[Busybody]

 

[Real_American17]

How are we as a consumer supposed to know what we are consuming if the restaurant doesn't offer the most basic information on their products?

Not patron them, go to competition that meets your consumer demands.

Raise your own animals (rabbits, fish, etc.) and grow your own produce, better than eating the overpriced and poisoned crap served at restaurants and sold in grocery stores today anyway...

There is nothing wrong with forcing companies to disclose potential hazards and make available the basic contents of their products to consumers.

There are many American food/drinks that aren't even allowed in some countries because of the garbage that is contained in it... garbage that the FDA says is fine...

Screw the government, they are putting an undue burden on the business owner and by extension adding an expense to the customer, which will disproportionately affect the working poor.

That has never been the case....from snake oil to McDiddles.

Isn't Chipotle one of many restaurants that started listing the nutritional information because their customer base (filthy hippies) valued that in a business?

Ignorance is bliss but it doesn't promote consumer choice.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ow-list-calorie-counts-on-their-menus/383182/

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not patron them, go to competition that meets your consumer demands.

Yea that hasn't worked out, which is why the government now makes companies selling dangerous shit to people tell the consumer their product is dangerous.

The real dangerous shit we don't sell to kids.

And there really isn't anything wrong with them doing that....of ALL the fucked up shit they do this is arguably one of the most benign if not positive things about our gov.

Warning labels aren't tyranny....sorry you're just being silly.

 

[Real_American17]

Warning labels aren't tyranny....sorry you're just being silly.

It is, if you allow them an inch today, they will take the world from under your grandchildren's feet!

Labels are unneeded, if it isn't labeled don't buy it, the companies want you to buy, they will put labels if that is what the market demands.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It is, if you allow them an inch today, they will take the world from under your grandchildren's feet!

Labels are unneeded, if it isn't labeled don't buy it, the companies want you to buy, they will put labels if that is what the market demands.

The market shouldn't decide public safety policy, it has a shit fuckin' record. The market had it's chance to take care of public safety/general welfare in the business world and it fucked it up so we the people made some rules and put an alphabet agency in charge to enforce it.

I dislike it and think they have gone overboard with most of it but there still has to be some rules and enforcement that has to happen. Otherwise companies will knowingly cause harm to lots of people just to get an extra buck in.

If you don't like it you're free to rage about it or get the fuck out and go to any number of anarchist paradise....I hear Africa is full of untouched high value resources.

 

[Real_American17]

The market shouldn't decide public safety policy, it has a shit fuckin' record.

No, private companies should decide what their labels say (as long as it isn't false advertising) and the consumers should decide which companies they patron.

The market had it's chance to take care of public safety/general welfare in the business world and it fucked it up so we the people made some rules and put an alphabet agency in charge to enforce it.

Nonsense, reactionary idiots got frightened, and a power-hungry government simply seized more unlawful and unAmerican control.

I dislike it and think they have gone overboard with most of it but there still has to be some rules and enforcement that has to happen. Otherwise companies will knowingly cause harm to lots of people just to get an extra buck in.

Nonsense, the company would have to pay compensation (likely go out of business), and the individuals responsible would be imprisoned (possibly executed), and possibly sued individually for their responsibility which would bankrupt them and leave their families destitute...

If you don't like it you're free to rage about it or get the fuck out and go to any number of anarchist paradise....I hear Africa is full of untouched high value resources.

It is unAmerican to run, I'm not a Syrian... I will defend my home, you've forsaken your oath!

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, private companies should decide what their labels say (as long as it isn't false advertising) and the consumers should decide which companies they patron.

That's your opinion. Unfortunately for you a losing one.

Nonsense, reactionary idiots got frightened, and a power-hungry government simply seized more unlawful and unAmerican control.

Liar. Industry/market abused, poisoned and knowingly endangered the public at large numerous times.

Nonsense, the company would have to pay compensation (likely go out of business), and the individuals responsible would be imprisoned (possibly executed), and possibly sued individually for their responsibility which would bankrupt them and leave their families destitute...

And none of this ^^ pretend part time none existent justice system EVER happened. Not once...it took the force of government to stop certain abuses on the part of 'the market'.

The government had to set some basic guidelines to stop these abuses and then once they were resolved the people in charge of those areas found more things to justify a bigger budget, once they figured they could write their own check shit spun out of control.

It is unAmerican to run

Then you need to get with the program son, your brand of anarchy is in the MICROSCOPIC fringe minority and just short of Z day ain't happening in the USA.

 

[Real_American17]

That's your opinion. Unfortunately for you a losing one.

Well, unsurprising when most of the population or indoctrinated filth... the tide will turn.

Liar. Industry/market abused, poisoned and knowingly endangered the public at large numerous times.

No individual business owners/workers, companies, nothing was done by industry or markets...

And do you have any major examples? And why they justify the government taking away freedom from Americans?

You know, sometimes a bad person will stab someone... should we set up a government agency to regulate knives? How about broken bottles? Maybe screwdrivers?

Or maybe, we just punish the guilty and try and compensate the victim or their family... that has been common law for 1,000+ years.

And none of this ^^ pretend part time none existent justice system EVER happened. Not once...it took the force of government to stop certain abuses on the part of 'the market'.

I don't see what this has to do with my post...

I said that if a company injures a person or damages their property, etc. that they would be held accountable in court both to justly compensate the victim but also to compensate society with time in prison or even execution depending on the crime.

The government had to set some basic guidelines to stop these abuses and then once they were resolved the people in charge of those areas found more things to justify a bigger budget, once they figured they could write their own check shit spun out of control.

Nonsense.

Then you need to get with the program son, your brand of anarchy is in the MICROSCOPIC fringe minority and just short of Z day ain't happening in the USA.

Wrong, it is American to take on great adversity. That is how this nation was built, farmers, bakers, cobblers, etc. rising up against an empire that reached into every corner of the globe and winning!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/local-news/145569935-story

I have to say, that I am happy when NYC residents get what they voted for.

Having said that, I'm not to keen on them trying to export their New York Values.

GOooooooooo TRUMP!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Recent medical studies that took all previous studies and reanalyzed the data show that salt intake has, at best, a temporary and short-lived effect on the heart and hypertension.

It is, in fact, like most pop-science, nothing more than a myth that was proved by researchers with an outcome in mind who were searching for data to fit their hypothesis.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, unsurprising when most of the population or indoctrinated filth.

I know you hate 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% of Americans.

Sucks for you.

No individual business owners/workers, companies, nothing was done by industry or markets...

You don't get to separate the two for convince.

The pretend magic of 'the market' failed to give a shit about public safety to the extent people got together as a society and said "no more" and that's NEVER going away.

Get over it.

I said that if a company injures a person or damages their property, etc. that they would be held accountable in court both to justly compensate the victim but also to compensate society with time in prison or even execution depending on the crime.

Yea maybe in your fantasy world but the people of these United States decided to do things differently.

Wrong, it is American to take on great adversity. That is how this nation was built, farmers, bakers, cobblers, etc. rising up against an empire that reached into every corner of the globe and winning!

That doesn't change the fact that your brand of anarchy is practically nonexistent and will never come to pass in this country.

 

[Real_American17]

I know you hate 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% of Americans.

Sucks for you.

They'll be the ones getting gassed, not me.

You don't get to separate the two for convince.

You don't get to combine them.

The pretend magic of 'the market' failed to give a shit about public safety to the extent people got together as a society and said "no more" and that's NEVER going away.

Big Government got in the way.

Yea maybe in your fantasy world but the people of these United States decided to do things differently.

Good thing that doesn't matter commie, this is not a democracy.

It doesn't matter how many people want something.

That doesn't change the fact that your brand of anarchy is practically nonexistent and will never come to pass in this country.

My values are those of Liberty and Freedom, they are the bedrock on which our nation was built.

America has been corrupted, it will be purified, my society will be the model for the New American Republic!