Crime Created by ‘System,’ Successful People ‘Just Lucky,’

[hashtag45]

Actually Cap'n Disingenuous all that would have been required was for the Republicans (and Not Republican "conservatives") in Congress to refrain from actively sabotaging health care reform.

Cap'n Ulaven in a nutshell: (as suggested by the woman, of course)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiOlY6tUgAAqp0s.jpg

 

[Disgustipated]

"If you like your doctor you can keep him."
"If you like your insurance plan you can keep it."

Liberals don't care that The Fraud literally lied dozens of times to fool Congress into voting for this disaster, how many people are being screwed or how much damage its done to the economy. It helped some people.

What mindless stupidity.

^^Words of wisdom from another of life's biggest losers.

Agreed.

 

[Disgustipated]

"If you like your doctor you can keep him."
"If you like your insurance plan you can keep it."

Liberals don't care that The Fraud literally lied dozens of times to fool Congress into voting for this disaster, how many people are being screwed or how much damage its done to the economy. It helped some people.

What mindless stupidity.

The best part of your idiotic statement is that you think the Dumb Fraud is smart enough to fool/trick/manipulate a Republican Congress.


You really don't ever think about your words, do ya?

 

[RobDownSouth]

"If you like your doctor you can keep him."
"If you like your insurance plan you can keep it."

Miles? Did you have to change your doctor or your insurance plan because of Obamacare?

I've yet to see more than a handful of people who said "yes" to either of the above. Even the late, unlamented Vettebigot, who spouted the above rhetoric loud and often, eventually admitted his insurances and doctors remained unchanged.

 

[miles]

Some people can't afford to buy a home, and they "deserve" to. They have a right to affordable housing.

Here's an idea...let's tax every homeowner and give that money to renters so they can buy a house. We could do the same thing with car and life insurance, too!

It doesn't matter how many get penalized as long as it benefits someone else.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Some people can't afford to buy a home, and they "deserve" to. They have a right to affordable housing.

So if people cannot afford health insurance, they "deserve" to die?
cue: but...but...the emergency room!

 

[miles]

While we're at it, let everyone buy auto insurance after they have an accident and homeowners after their house burns down. It's only fair.

Who cares if insurance companies raise everyone's premiums to cover their losses?
That's just wrong! Everyone knows they can afford it. Why should I care if their profits decline and hurt their investors? Rich people stole their money from the poor anyway and have no right to their money.

We have to level the playing field and make life fair.

 

[Disgustipated]

While we're at it, let everyone buy auto insurance after they have an accident and homeowners after their house burns down. It's only fair.

Who cares if insurance companies raise everyone's premiums to cover their losses?
That's just wrong! Everyone knows they can afford it. Why should I care if their profits decline and hurt their investors? Rich people stole their money from the poor anyway and have no right to their money.

We have to level the playing field and make life fair.

Doubling down on the dumb isn't helping you, Skippy. Might wanna try another approach.

 

[miles]

Ugly people have a right to free plastic surgery so they will be just as attractive as everyone else. Tax hot women to pay for it.

It's the fair thing to do.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Cap'n Ulaven in a nutshell: (as suggested by the woman, of course)

As usual, you come rushing in with zero clue what you're talking about.

You could provide some insight, provided you know a fucking thing about what I was talking about. Nah, you're just suckling up to Cap'n Hypocrite.

Now wander off and cuddle up in DizzyBooby's colon.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

^^Words of wisdom from another of life's biggest losers.

Yeah, I'm just losing left and right.
Great job where I'm appreciated and well paid in Midtown Manhattan. Half a million dollar home in northern New Jersey, a cabin in the Poconos. Everything is paid off, no debt. Just losing at life.

You never get tired of making yourself look like an idiot do you miles?

 

[miles]

“The victim mindset dilutes the human potential. By not accepting personal responsibility for our circumstances, we greatly reduce our power to change them.”

― Steve Maraboli,

 

[hashtag45]

As usual, you come rushing in with zero clue what you're talking about.

You could provide some insight, provided you know a fucking thing about what I was talking about. Nah, you're just suckling up to Cap'n Hypocrite.

Now wander off and cuddle up in DizzyBooby's colon.

How's the dog business going?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Doubling down on the dumb isn't helping you, Skippy. Might wanna try another approach.

Teh concept of "insurance" offends his "survival of teh fittest" Ayn Rand mindset.

 

[Disgustipated]

Teh concept of "insurance" offends his "survival of teh fittest" Ayn Rand mindset.

Hush. Miles has great health insurance! Just ask his wife's employer.

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[RobDownSouth]

Hush. Miles has great health insurance! Just ask his wife's employer.

• 

Miles is on Medicare now. Small wonder he's denigratin' health insurance for others now that the government guarantees his medical insurance.

 

[richard_daily]

Successful People ‘Just Lucky,’ ‘Wasn’t Nothin’ You Did."

"Crime in the African American community as something fostered by an “unfair and unjust” system."

This is an excerpt from The Traitor's commencement speech at Howard University. He's such an inspiration!

Class warfare, envy, and victimization all in one speech. Isn't he just wonderful?

Who are the people you are pretending are "successful"?

name a few of them.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Who are the people you are pretending are "successful"?

name a few of them.

Donald Trump.
George W. Bush.
The Koch Brothers.
Mitt Romney.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It was not good. It wreaked havoc with the insurance industry and was nothing more than a hidden tax on the rest of it. It would have just been better to give doctors and hospitals write-offs for pro bono work...

Government, and most of its supporters have they have demonstrated over and over are simply convinced that when they add a new cost or tax to a business that it simply and magically just takes it out of "profits." The economic illiteracy is astounding and the rhetorical sophism and magic unicorn solutions never cease to amaze me. Everyone seems to believe that the free market can be replaced with simple solutions sans consequence. All you need is the best and brightest in government and paradise is just around the corner...

Had you attended an accredited college, you might have learned about the concept of risk management.

An embiggened pool of insured people spreads the risk and generally lowers the overall cost on insurance.

The old free market system you cherished allowed insurance companies to reject the sickest people.

 

[Sean Renaud]

"If you like your doctor you can keep him."
"If you like your insurance plan you can keep it."

Liberals don't care that The Fraud literally lied dozens of times to fool Congress into voting for this disaster, how many people are being screwed or how much damage its done to the economy. It helped some people.

What mindless stupidity.

Maybe he lied, maybe he didn't. It's hard to knwo but I'll count it as a lie. He should have told peopel some of you will get fucked by this, such is life.

It has done no confirmable harm to the economy.

Cap'n Ulaven in a nutshell: (as suggested by the woman, of course)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiOlY6tUgAAqp0s.jpg

Can someone actually find a real live liberal saying anything remotely comparable to this?

 

[richard_daily]

Donald Trump.
George W. Bush.
The Koch Brothers.
Mitt Romney.

All born rich... none of those people "earned" anything.

Maybe we can keep trying?

 

[trysail]

It has done no confirmable harm to the economy.

Are you shittin' me?

Half the physicians in my town are ready to quit out of frustration.



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[snugglestruggle]

Obama had a Democratic majority in Congress. This is true. However, Joe Lieberman and Max Baucus declared early on that public option (single payer) was off the table (Lieberman was bankrolled by insurance companies) and Ben Nelson declared his support of public option was conditional upon ALL abortions banned at the federal level, which was not going to happen. *poof* No majority, no single payer.

Someone has already explained to you how simply waving fairy dust and outlawing pre-existing conditions would have bankrupted the Insurance industry.

The reason so many people are still uninsured? One out of every five is not a legal citizen here. Non-citizens are barred from insurance.

The Heritage plan promoted by President Obama but a key part was massive Federal expansion of Medicaid (Feds picking up 90% of the cost). Many Republican governors sued and Scalia legislated from the bench to declare that these governors had a new "right" to deny people coverage in order to gain favor with their base.

Additionally, there are some truly sad parents who don't love their children enough to want to insure them. Around here, we had Julybabby04 who declared it un-Biblical for her to pay more than $300 a month for her family of seven (the cost increase interfered with her family annual Disney World vacation). VatAss the Ishspawn decided he had enough money saved up to avoid covering any and all illnesses or catestrophes befalling his two girls. And at the extreme bottom of the well, we have Queerbait, who bragged about not taking his children to the doctor for ten years, even when they broke bones.

So then it's your contention that the 30 million people who were going to get covered under the ACA was untrue , because 20 million or so are illegal aliens, thus being ineligible.


The fairy dust your referring to, passing stand alone legislation that prevents insurers from excluding preexisting conditions is in the ACA, it hasn't bankrupted the insurance industry. In fact profits have never been better. Small businesses get to keep their insurance because costs aren't going up either , right? Health Insurers watch profits soar, they dump small businesses

Several million previously uninsured Americans now have coverage because of Obamacare, but it could be argued that the people who have benefited most from the law—at least financially—are the top executives and shareholders of the country’s health insurance companies. Oops


Among those who apparently have not yet benefited much at all, at least so far, are owners of small businesses who would like to keep offering coverage to their employees but can no longer afford it. They can’t afford it because insurers keep jacking their rates up so high every year that more and more of them are dropping employee health benefits altogether. But.. but if you like your insurance you can keep it, as long as you can keep paying the rising costs of premiums..

Insurers are still gouging people on the price of Meds . Maybe if that mystical $2,500 per year (each family was supposed to save) was real, it could cover the cost of meds. The ACA is fairy dust for the masses but it's raining gold for the Top 1%.

 

[hashtag45]

Looks like the one preceding Obamacare was too cut-throat (people being denied healthcare in a 'first-world' country? Unbelievable).
But this also sounds worrisome to me:


What Obamacare Means to Physicians
http://iapam.com/obamacare-means-physicians.html

"2. Insufficient time spent with patients

With the use of Medicare, physicians may find that spending more time with their patients could result in them being paid less. When calculated as an average on a national scale, it would mean that doctors would suffer a 17% reduction in their pay just for doing the right thing and spending time with patients who wish to have their physician care for them.

This problem does not just extend to existing patients attending follow-up visits; it also can involve new patients who are seeing a physician for the first time."

 

[BotanyBoy]

Are you shittin' me?

Half the physicians in my town are ready to quit out of frustration.



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Can't be too bad....they haven't quit yet.