Myers-Briggs

[Peregrinator]

I've seen the MBTI mentioned a fair amount here. Thought this blog was interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/mar/19/myers-briggs-test-unscientific

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I'm an INTP on the Myers-Briggs.

We use DiSC. I find it more reliable in the workplace
https://www.discprofile.com/what-is-disc/overview/

 

[Peregrinator]

I'm an INTP on the Myers-Briggs.

We use DiSC. I find it more reliable in the workplace
https://www.discprofile.com/what-is-disc/overview/

Did you read the blog? I wonder what the science is like on the DiSC. Any idea?

What industry are you in?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Some say it's generalization, others say it's complete bullshit....

I understand the need/use of categorizing shit but people have proven to be very difficult to accurately categorize so I just look at it as some sort of bizarre introspective entertainment.

Because no one really gives a fuck...

 

[pointless]

as the blog said this wasn't exactly news three years ago and it still isn't. still, what the fuck can you do?

oh and i always come out infp and i take it about as seriously as i do my iq score and my zodiac sign.

 

[hashtag45]

Wow. I didn't know that they introduced such tests in the workplace.
I guess they had good intentions, and in theory it looks like a good idea.
But still… Leaving aside the fact that they're putting these tools in the hands of inexperienced people who aren't able to put things into context, they can easily be misused if they fall into the wrong hands. Especially if one works in specific work environments that are magnets for psychopaths.
If they could only find a safe way (for employees) to do it…

 

[sr71plt]

I took it four times and came up with three different results--the results all depended on what management issues I had to work with at the time.

 

[hashtag45]

I was curious -just like everyone else- but I found many of the sites to be tedious and obsessed with categorizing. Until I came across this guy.
Genial! He wrote some fascinating articles in which he uses the MBTI as a guide for understanding certain contemporary social or political issues.
I also liked his analogy regarding different breeds of dogs (it was amusing but So true).



Myers-Briggs Personality Pluralism
http://pavelpodolyak.blogspot.co.nz/2009/11/myers-briggs-personality-pluralism.html

"Curiously, even as humans are increasingly accepting of political and cultural pluralism, there is still insufficient focus on how pluralism in general arises from differences in breeds of humans. Populous mammals like dogs and cats have a number of breeds that cluster by physiological external differences like size and internal neural differences like aggressiveness, friendliness, and task specialization. Humans of course are no different.

Each person judges all others based on what the one judging is good at physiologically.
- A very empathic person judges others based on empathy.
- A conservative one judges the rest on how good of a conservative they are.
- Same applies to all the others be they a partying hedonist, an introverted scientist, an artist, an athlete, or a social butterfly with highly developed taste buds ("how can others eat that crap!?").

This is a very natural problem to have for humanity. Since every person subconsciously wants to expand personal power in all directions, for thousands of years, the strongest or more numerous breeds have tended to not just make their personalities and ideas into universal law for others but to actually buy into their own lies that everybody else should strive to be like the rulers.
Right now we have a world where the German Shepards, the Pitbulls, the Poodles, the Border Collies, and the Golden Retrievers are all rightfully treated the same but they suffer from the problem of more numerous breeds (as well as the most vicious/cunning ones) determining what breed is the universal ideal for a human.

One problem is depressed self esteem from comparison of one self to those breeds that thrive in whatever socioeconomic system exists at the time (and whose mode of being are widely emulated for this reason) and from feeling alone and excluded since no breed exceeds 15% numerically.
- The often failed emulation of the most able to "make it" (or seen as more able) may be a more serious threat to the health of people's ego, their self respect, and their pride.
- Just as an emotionally cold and aggressive person may feel distressed when living in a hippie ENFP/INFP/INFJ/ISFP commune, a naturally empathic and kind Golden Retriever will feel distressed and alone in a society that values warrior Pitbulls."

 

[Lancecastor]

They also make a decent lawnmower.

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/home.html

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I'm INTP. I took it long ago. My boss took it too and scored INTP. I said to her, there, LITTLE WONDER YOURE A SICK FUCK. We were the only INTPs in the hospital we worked for.

I agree with the dog breed analogy.


The BOTANYBOY SICK FUCK MYERS-BIGGS PERSONALITY INTP

http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We've been talking about political science (outcome driven) verses Science (independently verifiable) here for decades now. From salt to sugar to fats to second-hand smoke to Glow Ball Warning.



Most people here do not believe in all political science, but a fair amount have a deep emotional, dare I say religious, attachment to at least one political science movement.

Not pointing any fingers perg...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The attempt by political science to criminalize Science:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/17/democratic-ags-climate-change-groups-colluded-on-p/

 

[zipman]

I've seen the MBTI mentioned a fair amount here. Thought this blog was interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/mar/19/myers-briggs-test-unscientific

Some organizations view MBTI as a total waste of time, which for the most part, it is. Can it give a few people insight into their behaviors - sure. Does it matter at all in the workplace? No.

I've worked in organizations where everyone had to have their MBTI displayed on their desk so others "could relate to them better."

Honestly, DISC isn't much better but it depends on how it is being used.

 

[Lancecastor]

Assigning a small, finite number of personalities for everyone to pick from is pretty fucking lame.

It would be more scientifically accurate to simply rely on Skinner if you want to explain why people are like they are.

http://www.simplypsychology.org/skinner%20box.jpg

 

[jomar]

Yes, I've always viewers it as a way companies can help employees write off interpersonal issues as differences in style rather than personal conflict so they can keep their eye on the ball.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

We've been talking about political science (outcome driven) verses Science (independently verifiable) here for decades now. From salt to sugar to fats to second-hand smoke to Glow Ball Warning.



Most people here do not believe in all political science, but a fair amount have a deep emotional, dare I say religious, attachment to at least one political science movement.

Not pointing any fingers perg...

I agree. And lemme add ALL OUTCOMES COME WITH POLIITICAL COSTS. Like, we all know there is huge disparity in the value of activity. When the guy in the toolroom makes less than the guy who cleans and repairs nasty smokestacks he believes he's been fucked tho he goes home spotless and sits on his ass all day. The Remington Ranger thinks his forms are equal to the grunts body counts.

 

[JackLuis]

Years ago a book was passed around the office I worked in where a woman had combined Chinese Astrology and Western Astrology. She came up with the concept that the two combined gave a more perfect view of the traits that could be assigned to people.
So instead of being a Scorpio, you might be a Scorpio-Monkey or a Scorpio-Horse. That is being borne in a Month of Scorpio in the year of the Horse. The book was quite accurate in diagnosing personality types, well as accurate as can be expected from such generalizations.
How 'scientific" was it, not very but it was about as accurate and as useful as MBTI seems to be.

 

[nerfhearder]

I hate those stupid tests. I don't think they are accurate about me at all.
Once I got a job where they only hired certain "types" after taking the test and so everyone who was hired got to see what the test results were and all that. Mine was nothing like me and I sucked so bad at the job that I had to quite before I was fired and I most certainly was about to be fired because I really did suck at it and should never have been hired in the first place.

 

[MrRandyWatson]

This test doesn't leave open the idea that you can be neither one nor the other. I am one extreme on three of the categories, but on the introvert/extrovert scale, I am neither. (The actual term is "ambivert," a term so unknown even my autocorrect doesn't recognize it.) Whether I am an introvert or an extrovert depends on the situation - some people are draining, but if I'm alone, I can only handle so much before I need a person around. The MBTI lists me as an extrovert but barely - but I have friends who are die-hard extroverts and friends who are decided introverts and I don't line up with either.

So in short, fuck the MBTI.