Young people and Trump

[renard_ruse]

According to polls, sadly, a large majority of Americans under 35 not only don't support Trump but despise him. Even if you assume there is some bias in the polls, clearly a majority don't like him.

Interestingly, in Europe, nationalist parties tend to poll better among younger voters. Marine Le Pen does very well with 18 to 24 year olds. The same is true in Russia with Putin.

I would instinctively have thought that Trump would appeal to young people. He's a radical outsider standing up to the system, wants to bring real change to government, stands up to the powerful and elite of America and the world. Yet, we see massive hate for him.

Could be simply because a result of the demographic composition of the young in the US, with so many Hispanics, etc. I would still have thought he would appeal to at least a sizable % of them. And the young whites are supporting Sanders, which probably takes the white anti-establishment youth vote away.

Ron Paul did well with college kids as an alternative right wing candidate. I'm actually surprised Trump doesn't have at least a significant niche among young people.

 

[renard_ruse]

Putin also does well with ethnic minority voters in Russia. The western media keeps that totally quiet, but its fact. He's always done well with minorities despite his pro-Russia sentiments.

With a similar message in many ways, Trump should also do well with ethnic minorities. Yet, oddly, he doesn't seem to. Even his early black support seems to have vanished.

 

[RUlookingup]

According to polls, sadly, a large majority of Americans under 35 not only don't support Trump but despise him. Even if you assume there is some bias in the polls, clearly a majority don't like him.

Interestingly, in Europe, nationalist parties tend to poll better among younger voters. Marine Le Pen does very well with 18 to 24 year olds. The same is true in Russia with Putin.

I would instinctively have thought that Trump would appeal to young people. He's a radical outsider standing up to the system, wants to bring real change to government, stands up to the powerful and elite of America and the world. Yet, we see massive hate for him.

Could be simply because a result of the demographic composition of the young in the US, with so many Hispanics, etc. I would still have thought he would appeal to at least a sizable % of them. And the young whites are supporting Sanders, which probably takes the white anti-establishment youth vote away.

Ron Paul did well with college kids as an alternative right wing candidate. I'm actually surprised Trump doesn't have at least a significant niche among young people.

Young people have been programmed to not show dissent. They are on board with the socialist ideals of the American education system and Bernie Sanders.

 

[patient1]

Millenials grew up in more diverse classrooms than I did as a boomer, so they have a more diverse network of friends. They see prejudice, discrimination and bullying for what it is.

Rounding up and deporting all Mexican illegals will break up families, no matter how much those advocating it insist they are for family values. We aren't hearing anything about deporting illegal Canadians working in border states, or illegal Irish in Boston, but they're there, too. It comes across as unfair.

Young people tend to despise hypocrisy, and Trump has his products made overseas, and brings in guest workers to staff his resorts and modeling agency. Also, Trump tends to come across as preachy as a parent with his use of the terms "trust me" and "believe me" instead of explanations. He might as well say-"Because I said so."

 

[Liar]

The young of America have grown up in the post industrial age of information abundance and crowd sourced probability algorithms. You need to be a more sophisticated bullshitter to fool them. Or at the very least a new kind of bullshitter. And Trump is the least sophisticated, most old school bullshitter I have ever seen.

Don't get me wrong, they are all bullshitters. But Trump bullshits with the brute force of a sweaty used car salesman on the outskirts of Albuquerque, and the finesse of a turd in a bucket. It might work on the low information trailer part dweller and on the geriatric old farts who have to ask their grandkids how to set up the email machine, but it's doomed to fail on anyone with an even cursory level of Google-fu.

 

[monanympho]

Is there a real chance he might actually win?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Is there a real chance he might actually win?

None except in the fevered minds of his true believers.

 

[RUlookingup]

Millenials grew up in more diverse classrooms than I did as a boomer, so they have a more diverse network of friends. They see prejudice, discrimination and bullying for what it is.

Rounding up and deporting all Mexican illegals will break up families, no matter how much those advocating it insist they are for family values. We aren't hearing anything about deporting illegal Canadians working in border states, or illegal Irish in Boston, but they're there, too. It comes across as unfair.

Young people tend to despise hypocrisy, and Trump has his products made overseas, and brings in guest workers to staff his resorts and modeling agency. Also, Trump tends to come across as preachy as a parent with his use of the terms "trust me" and "believe me" instead of explanations. He might as well say-"Because I said so."

Trump brings up topics which require solutions. Although his solution may not be the best one available, the fact that he discusses topics others refuse to makes him inherently a.leader. Our youth have been indoctrinated into a socialist, Phil Donahue, every one gets a trophy society. They need to know we have other options. Trump offers thoughts that are controversial because we refuse to debate any more. We accept the solutions of talking heads and pundits who often live ivory tower lives. Debate the issues. Talk. Why should American citizens fund illegal Mexicans who are indentured servants for the rich, working in their restaurants and landscaping their properties?

 

[RUlookingup]

The young of America have grown up in the post industrial age of information abundance and crowd sourced probability algorithms. You need to be a more sophisticated bullshitter to fool them. Or at the very least a new kind of bullshitter. And Trump is the least sophisticated, most old school bullshitter I have ever seen.

Don't get me wrong, they are all bullshitters. But Trump bullshits with the brute force of a sweaty used car salesman on the outskirts of Albuquerque, and the finesse of a turd in a bucket. It might work on the low information trailer part dweller and on the geriatric old farts who have to ask their grandkids how to set up the email machine, but it's doomed to fail on anyone with an even cursory level of Google-fu.

Sophisticated to fool the young? I needed a good laugh, thanks.

 

[RUlookingup]

Hillary is a lying Manzano mountain rattlesnake.

 

[Liar]

Sophisticated to fool the young? I needed a good laugh, thanks.

I see you're suffering from 'kids these days' syndrome. It's understandable. Everyone think they, and their generation, are the bee's knees.

You have to unserstand your audience. Trump plays the exact anathema to what youths respond well to, an autoritarian blowhard.

 

[Liar]

You also need to different between all young and young who vote. Low information youngsters don't go to the polls, whereas a crapton of low information adults do. Out of habit, if nothing else.

 

[RUlookingup]

I see you're suffering from 'kids these days' syndrome. It's understandable. Everyone think they, and their generation, are the bee's knees.

You have to unserstand your audience. Trump plays the exact anathema to what youths respond well to, an autoritarian blowhard.

Your name liar says it all

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Kids are idealists, and the less contact they have with animals the more they love them.

When I worked for the state I never met a black social worker who didn't carry a gun in her purse. She knew who the animals were in the hood. I have black relatives, theyre college educated and decent people, but most blacks are fuggin animals, blacks know it and I know it. Sis and Sonny raised in a gated slobburb are clueless till they get their throats cut.

 

[RUlookingup]

Kids are idealists, and the less contact they have with animals the more they love them.

When I worked for the state I never met a black social worker who didn't carry a gun in her purse. She knew who the animals were in the hood. I have black relatives, theyre college educated and decent people, but most blacks are fuggin animals, blacks know it and I know it. Sis and Sonny raised in a gated slobburb are clueless till they get their throats cut.

When you are constantly seeing the worst elements of society, one might understand your direct speech. However, you must realize there are very good people.out there also of all races. In fact, they are the majority. When the media hold.people up for scrutiny, they often do so in a manner that.divides us all. NOIRTRASH while you often make some.valid points, with your constant triggering of division by calling others names we.all know to be taboo, doesn't help. I also don't care for the common liberal who often is shielded from the stark realities of the inner city, yet I don't find a.lot of your rhetoric to be helpful. I am no saint when it.comes.to ad hominem.attacks, sometimes it can be quite.entertaining. Thanks for always trying to keep it real, but please stop with the obvious baiting language.

 

[kauen]

Thought I'd mention this being as I'm a young American now living in Europe and very interested in politics. The support for far right parties in Europe amongst young people is very dependant on local circumstances. In France and Russia its because the far right are the most radical option. In Greece, Finland and the UK though the far right parties of Golden Dawn, True Finns and UKIP slump amongst the young while the far left Tsiriza, Finnish Socialists and UK Greens (and now a resurgent far left Labour party) are the beneficiaries. I think young people are just by default radical but tend to believe in far left radicalism when it present itself. American youngsters have that option with Bernie Sanders so they support him over Trump.

 

[Liar]

Your name liar says it all

Weaksauce.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

In John Tolands huge biography of Hitler he details who supported Hitlers rise to power, because Germany was generally a libertine and promiscuous society.

After World War 1 the Allies promoted the dominance of Jews throughout German society. Jews were 1% of the population and half the lawyers and professors and bankers and doctors and merchants and bureaucrats, and most of the pimps. The disgruntled and disenfranchised Germans went to Hitler. Political moderates went to Hitler. most Jews were socialists and communists who loved Stalin. Jews are intellectuals, Germans are technical innovators, Jews made atom bombs, Germans made jet airplanes and rockets. Jews are liberals, Germans play by the rules, Jews dream and Germans do what works.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

When you are constantly seeing the worst elements of society, one might understand your direct speech. However, you must realize there are very good people.out there also of all races. In fact, they are the majority. When the media hold.people up for scrutiny, they often do so in a manner that.divides us all. NOIRTRASH while you often make some.valid points, with your constant triggering of division by calling others names we.all know to be taboo, doesn't help. I also don't care for the common liberal who often is shielded from the stark realities of the inner city, yet I don't find a.lot of your rhetoric to be helpful. I am no saint when it.comes.to ad hominem.attacks, sometimes it can be quite.entertaining. Thanks for always trying to keep it real, but please stop with the obvious baiting language.

I play the odds. Not many white boys on my basketball team. Not many black girls in my porno mags. My motto is: IF I HADDA BET, WHERE DO I PUT MY MONEY? Or ALWAYS BET ON THE STEREOTYPE. IT AINT PERSONAL, ITS BIZNESS.

 

[JackLuis]

In John Tolands huge biography of Hitler he details who supported Hitlers rise to power, because Germany was generally a libertine and promiscuous society.
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One book I found interesting and readable is "Who Financed Hitler" by James Pool.

A more exhaustive book (1300 pages) was Carrol Quiglys "Tragedy and Hope" which details the international banking support of the right. Quigly was a Georgetown professor and taught Slick Willy how to gt his bread buttered.

Other books are:

James and Suzanne Poole have written a very readable, well documented , highly interesting book about the financing of Hitler from 1919 to 1933. There is no doubt about that. They mentioned , for example, a wide ranging list of Hitler’s supporters that included Henry Ford , Mussolini, Grand Duchess Victoria of Russia, oil man Sir Henry Deterding, Fritz Thyssen, and, of course, Dr. Hjalmar Schacht. However as I read their book I felt that something was missing. The sums of the money given by these people, in my opinion , could perhaps have financed Hitler’s party, Hitler’ little army of a thousand toughs who had protected him from the communist goons while he gave his speeches and so on, , however, that was about all. The relatively little amount of money these people donated to the Hitler cause could never have paid for Hitler’s and Germany’s miraculous industrial recovery. I think the Pools have not told us the whole truth as they must have known it to be.

Antony Sutton tells us a lot more than the Pools do. He has written a equally readable, well documented series of books on the Rise of Hitler, The Rise of FDR and the Rise of The Bolsheviks which, in my opinion, give us a much more complete list of financiers of Hitler. Sutton claims, with quotes from Hjalmar Schadt and Fritz Thyssen, that the Dawes Plan of 1924 and the Young Plan of 1928 were both created by the International Bankers and the FDR government, and formulated by JP Morgan agent Owen D. Young brought Hitler to power in 1933. He also claims that the Young Plan was a device to occupy Germany with American capital and pledge real German assets with a gigantic mortgage held in the US. Sutton lists the following major The Wall Street financial houses that backed Hitler and by how much: Dillon , Read & Co., $241, 325,000; Harris, Forbes & Co., $186,500,00; National City, $173,000,000; Speyer &Co., $59,000,000; Lee Higgins &Co., Guaranty Trust, $41, 575,000; Kuhn, Loeb & Co., $37,500,00; and Equitable Trust Co,$ 34,000,000. That’s the kind of money it takes to create a Hitler.

Strangely , Sutton does not make any claim about the Rothschilds in his book, This leads me to suspect that Eustace Mullins was correct about Sutton: that the Rothschilds hired Sutton to write the history of this period but to never mention the Rothschild name in any of his books, for it is known that several of the named banks above were Rothschild and or Rockefeller banks and JPMorgan, in particular, was, a Rothschild agent. When JP died it was discovered that over 80% of his wealth was owned by the Rothschilds. Case closed.

Suttons also reminds us of the claims of Carroll Quigley in his book, Tragedy and Hope, that explains the role of the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve , Bank of International Settlements , and other such Central Banks that controlled the world in the 1920’s, including communist , fascist and so called democratic countries and world financial conquest was their plan for ultimate world control.

There are two other books about the holocaust and Hitler that I consider crucial to the understanding of the creation of Hitler, WW2, and the holocaust. They are; The New world Order by Eustace Mullins ( also on Youtube ) and Conjuring Hitler ( which explains why the Bank of England, and the Zionists banks created Hitler) .

I hope this helps everyone understand how Hitler came to power.

You can fool too many of the people most of the time.