Gathering no moss

[pensivepoet]

I'll never understand how the Andrew Oldham orchestra links that to The Last Time.
But it's a great piece of music.
And no one fucks with the Stones and walks away a winner.

 

[Lancecastor]

Prince Rupert Loewenstein was pretty much 100% responsible for the Stones' financial success, replacing Allen Klein, who robbed them blind.


http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/35/590x/23f34stones2-477661.jpg

Loewenstein was the Rolling Stones' business adviser and financial manager from 1968 until 2007.[2] In 1968, then working in London as a merchant banker, he was introduced to Mick Jagger by a mutual friend, art dealer Christopher Gibbs. According to Keith Richards, Loewenstein had never heard of Jagger before then.[12] Jagger was of the opinion that the Stones' then manager, Allen Klein, was not paying them everything they were due.[6]

Loewenstein is credited with transforming the Stones into a "global brand and one of the world's richest bands", in particular by encouraging them to take into account potential tax advantages in any decisions about where to record, rehearse or perform.[6] He managed their release from an existing contract, which paid them almost nothing, and persuaded them of the tax advantages of leaving England and moving to the south of France. He channelled their earnings through a series of companies in the Netherlands, and got them to rehearse in Canada, rather than the United States, to reduce their tax bill.[1] Richards said, "[t]he tax rate [in the U.K.] in the early '70s on the highest earners was 83 percent, and that went up to 98 percent for investments... It was Rupert's advice that we become non-resident".[13] Loewenstein also copyrighted the famous red tongue logo, and enlisted corporates sponsors such as General Electric for tours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert_Loewenstein

 

[richard_daily]

It's a toss up between Sympathy for the Devil, or Gimme Shelter.

I can't decide.

What's your favourite Rolling Stones tune?

19th Nervous Breakdown

 

[Jennifer]

Paint it black.

 

[nerfhearder]

Paint it black.

There was a show on the History channel last year about Sam Adams and the theme song was Paint it Black. Every time it came on I thought "why does a show about an American revolutionary feature a song by a British group that's about a girls funeral?"

Still bugs me even though I've forgotten 99% of the show itself.

 

[nerfhearder]

I always liked Salt of the Earth but it's rarely played.

 

[Not Normal]

Bastard! What can I trade?

Nothing that won't get us both in trouble...

My ex and his best friend (who died of cancer) used to play Dead Flowers a lot. I still have a cd with them playing it. Now I have to find it when I get home and listen.

I was always partial to Keith Richards. I liked Slipping Away from Steel Wheels. I don't know why, but Keith on vocals was always something I enjoyed...almost as much as I like watching Charlie Watts on drums. That man has a love of drumming!

Little T & A happens to be Richards singing lead.

Another of my absolute favorites Infamy

If you're into the Keith's singing how is Happy not the choice?

The Verve wrote a song.
Bittersweet Symphony.
A great song, I think their only hit.
Mick j sued them saying it copied one of their songs.
(it sounds nothing like any Stones song)
The Verve had no money to fight the Stones' lawyers.
Mick j and Keith r were credited with writing it.
And every time it's played, Mick and Keith get paid.
Not The Verve.
I think it's bullshit and really petty of Mick J to pull that crap.

Its a sample from an orchestral recording of Stones songs.

I accept they copied that music, but I don't think that sounds anything like The Last Time.
That's like suing Kid Rock for taking Zevon's werewolfs of London to open all summer long.
All I'm saying is that Mick and Keith have plenty of money.
They could've let this slide.
I still think it was petty.

The difference being someone at Kid Schlock's label got legal clearance to use the sample of Warewolves BEFORE releasing the song to the public. The Verve's label did NOT get (and pay) permission and thusly got spanked by one of the biggest organizations in the music business.

I'll never understand how the Andrew Oldham orchestra links that to The Last Time.
But it's a great piece of music.
And no one fucks with the Stones and walks away a winner.

Its called arranging and that can be a very broad term. Sometimes its a simple thing like adding a keyboard or horn part, sometimes its an elaborate orchestral composition that is a variation of the basic theme of the original composition. It can be anywhere in between.

I always liked Salt of the Earth but it's rarely played.

That is a really beautiful song that doesn't get enough respect.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Prince Rupert Loewenstein was pretty much 100% responsible for the Stones' financial success, replacing Allen Klein, who robbed them blind.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert_Loewenstein

Tsk tsk Lance, ya left out the #MoneyQuote

Loewenstein never got involved in the music. He said he preferred classical music and never played a Stones recording by choice; if he had to listen to rock and roll, he preferred The Beatles

 

[jomar]

the thing i used to love about sticky fingers is there's a drug reference in basically every song. not really all the hard to guess why.

oh, and the music's great. it was right in the middle of their peak, really.

also, moonlight mile.

It's a really strong album and the Warhol conceived cover is icing on the cake.

 

[jomar]

The Verve wrote a song.
Bittersweet Symphony.
A great song, I think their only hit.
Mick j sued them saying it copied one of their songs.
(it sounds nothing like any Stones song)
The Verve had no money to fight the Stones' lawyers.
Mick j and Keith r were credited with writing it.
And every time it's played, Mick and Keith get paid.
Not The Verve.
I think it's bullshit and really petty of Mick J to pull that crap.

I accept they copied that music, but I don't think that sounds anything like The Last Time.
That's like suing Kid Rock for taking Zevon's werewolfs of London to open all summer long.
All I'm saying is that Mick and Keith have plenty of money.
They could've let this slide.
I still think it was petty.

Why would they let it slide? Big picture, if they let it go they'd be up to their ass with people stealing their music and then having to explain in court how come they are suing now and not before.

Also, wouldn't you want to be paid for work you did? David Bowie thought so when Vanilla Ice stole his music.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Under my Thumb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDi74zxkvAI