CIA director Brennan:ISIS was decimated under Bush, grew 4,400% under Obama

[smartjuanxxx]

Obama: Job creation at its best

http://www.aei.org/publication/bren...grown-under-obama-by-as-much-as-4400-percent/



https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/obama-tango-argentina-dance.jpg?quality=75&strip=color&w=1012

 

[smartjuanxxx]

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[geronimo_appleby]

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

so much personal responsibility on the part of "conservatives. It's not the fault of the previous administration who took us into Iraq under false pretenses. Not their fault for allowing the Shiite majority to repeatedly discriminate against and openly humiliate the Sunni minority.

Of course not, it's President Obama's fault for abiding by the status of forces agreement also made by that same administration. ISIS, by the way, didn't actually exist, but was a minority splinter group of al quaeda under President Bush. That fact that it split off and grew after the scheduled withdrawal from Iraq is no surprise. But the claim that it was decimated under Bush is disingenuous at best, because ISIS didn't actually exist as an entity until after the withdrawal from Iraq, post Bush.

The Republicans can never screw something up so blatantly that they can't attempt to shift the blame to a Democrat and their fanatical base will fall for it every time.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated. It's the GOP's bread and butter.

 

[smartjuanxxx]

^^^^^Lunatic MUSLIM terrorist

 

[smartjuanxxx]

so much personal responsibility on the part of "conservatives. It's not the fault of the previous administration who took us into Iraq under false pretenses. Not their fault for allowing the Shiite majority to repeatedly discriminate against and openly humiliate the Sunni minority.

Of course not, it's President Obama's fault for abiding by the status of forces agreement also made by that same administration. ISIS, by the way, didn't actually exist, but was a minority splinter group of al quaeda under President Bush. That fact that it split off and grew after the scheduled withdrawal from Iraq is no surprise. But the claim that it was decimated under Bush is disingenuous at best, because ISIS didn't actually exist as an entity until after the withdrawal from Iraq, post Bush.

The Republicans can never screw something up so blatantly that they can't attempt to shift the blame to a Democrat and their fanatical base will fall for it every time.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated. It's the GOP's bread and butter.

I see you are Nutz

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[miles]

VD is an Islamonazi sympathizer.

 

[zipman]

so much personal responsibility on the part of "conservatives. It's not the fault of the previous administration who took us into Iraq under false pretenses. Not their fault for allowing the Shiite majority to repeatedly discriminate against and openly humiliate the Sunni minority.

Of course not, it's President Obama's fault for abiding by the status of forces agreement also made by that same administration. ISIS, by the way, didn't actually exist, but was a minority splinter group of al quaeda under President Bush. That fact that it split off and grew after the scheduled withdrawal from Iraq is no surprise. But the claim that it was decimated under Bush is disingenuous at best, because ISIS didn't actually exist as an entity until after the withdrawal from Iraq, post Bush.

The Republicans can never screw something up so blatantly that they can't attempt to shift the blame to a Democrat and their fanatical base will fall for it every time.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated. It's the GOP's bread and butter.

The Iraq war, the gift that just keeps on giving. And these morons all still think It was a good idea, even in hindsight.

 

[smartjuanxxx]

The Iraq war, the gift that just keeps on giving. And these morons all still think It was a good idea, even in hindsight.

Who said that

What does it have to do with the topic

 

[miles]

Changing the subject is what they do.

 

[smartjuanxxx]

NOBEL PEACE PRIZE UPDATE: Bloody tide: Terror deaths increased 8-fold since 2010, says study. “The deadly toll of terrorism around the globe has jumped nearly 800 percent in the past five years, according to an exhaustive new report that blames the alarming expansion of Islamist groups across the Middle East and Africa. The nonprofit Investigative Project on Terrorism found that an average of nearly 30,000 people per year have been killed by terrorists since 2010, when terrorism’s death toll was 3,284. The authors of the study, which tabulated the numbers through the end of 2015, say that the exponential increase shows two troubling trends: More attacks are happening, and they tend to be deadlier than ever.”

Nice work, Barack.


and ISLAMIC

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Iraq War?



The one where President Obama declared victory, spiked the ball, took his ball home and left Iraq to the mercy of the Strong Horse?

Yeah, I can see how it is the gift that keeps on giving...

 

[Messier82]

Who said that

What does it have to do with the topic

...because there wasn't any ISIS at all before Bush and his poodle Blair (that's Tony Blair former UK Prime Minister) decided to pile into Iraq.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/11/-sp-isis-the-inside-story

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They didn't become ISIS/ISIL until Obama ceded them the territory to establish a bas of operations.

Of course, now they've franchised into Libya too, another Obama-Clinton success story...

But the players have been around ever since they got kicked out of al Qaeda for being too violent and extreme and bin Laden wiped out 3,000 people because the Clinton Administration insisted on treating them as a law-enforcement problem.

 

[JohnnySavage]

"ISIS" is just the current label attached to an ideology that's existed for over 1,000 years. "Defeat" ISIS and that ideology will still exist, it will just have a new label.


But... having a boogeyman 5,000 miles away is good for business and a good way to keep the American proles under control.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

San Bernardino is 5,000 miles away?

 

[smartjuanxxx]

"ISIS" is just the current label attached to an ideology that's existed for over 1,000 years. "Defeat" ISIS and that ideology will still exist, it will just have a new label.


But... having a boogeyman 5,000 miles away is good for business and a good way to keep the American proles under control.

you have made the argument I make

KILL EM ALL

 

[smartjuanxxx]

San Bernardino is 5,000 miles away?

from somewhere

yes

 

[JohnnySavage]

you have made the argument I make

KILL EM ALL

You can't. At least not until we develop a mind-control satellite. An ideology doesn't only have a corporeal existence.

 

[smartjuanxxx]

Kill ALL MUSLIMS

DUMZ

n

LIBZ

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...

"If you’re keeping score, freeing Islamic terrorists from Gitmo does not play into the hands of ISIS. Neither does bringing Syrians, many of whom sympathize with Islamic terrorists, into our country. And aiding the Muslim Brotherhood parent organization of ISIS does not play into the Islamic group’s hands.

"However if you use the words “Islamic terrorism” or even milder derivatives such as “radical Islamic terrorism”, you are playing into the hands of ISIS. If you call for closer law enforcement scrutiny of Muslim areas before they turn into Molenbeek style no-go zones or suggest ending the stream of new immigrant recruits to ISIS in San Bernardino, Paris or Brussels, you are also playing into the hands of ISIS.

"And if you carpet bomb ISIS, destroy its headquarters and training camps, you’re just playing into its hands. According to Obama and his experts, who have wrecked the Middle East, what ISIS fears most is that we’ll ignore it and let it go about its business. And what it wants most is for us to utterly destroy it.

...

"Obama initially tried to defeat ISIS by ignoring it. This cunning approach allowed ISIS to seize large chunks of Iraq and Syria. He tried calling ISIS a JayVee team in line with his recent claim that, “We defeat them in part by saying you are not strong, you are weak”. Unimpressed, ISIS seized Mosul. It was still attached to the old-fashioned way of proving it was strong by actually winning land and wars.

"Then Obama tried to defeat ISIS by arming the Islamist allies of Al Qaeda and now a lot more American weapons are in the hands of Islamic terrorists. Some of them are even in the hands of ISIS.

"Europe and the United States decided to prove that we were not at war with Islam by taking in as many Muslims as we could. Instead of leading to less terrorism, taking in more Muslims led to more terrorism.

...

"Islamic terrorism has followed an entirely intuitive pattern of cause and effect. There’s a reason that the counterintuitive strategies for fighting Islamic terrorism by not fighting Islamic terrorism don’t work. They make no sense. They never did. Instead they all depend on convincing Muslims, from the local Imam to Jihadist organizations, to aid us instead of attack us by showing what nice people we are. Meanwhile they also insist that we can’t use the words “Islamic terrorism” because Muslims are ticking time bombs who will join Al Qaeda and ISIS the moment we associate terrorism with the I-word.

"The counterintuitive strategy assumes that Islamic terrorism will only exist if we use the I-word, that totalitarian Jihadist movements just want democracy and that our best allies for fighting Islamic terrorism are people from the same places where Islamic terrorism is a runaway success. And that we should duplicate the demographics of the countries where Islamic terrorism thrives in order to defeat it...."
Daniel Greenfield, FrontPage Mag

 

[stickygirl]

That's weird, because I read somewhere than the CIA and Pakistan supplied arms to the Taliban ( aka ISIL ) when they were fighting the Soviet occupation. When the Soviets withdrew, they seized the initiative to take control of the whole of Afghanistan. Then America also supplied arms and training to Saddam and that turned out spectacularly well huh?
America, Russia... which ever empire trying to expand its influence, just ends up in one great cluster fuck. Putting weapons in the hands of religious zealots

 

[Messier82]

Back then they were the Mujahadeen, the UK & the US supplied them and trained them because them being against the Russians meant we liked them.

The Taliban came along later. Hence why OBL, a notable member of the Muj, was so adept at avoiding detection, he'd been trained by UK & US Special Forces!


BTW, it's well documented that what IS want is The End of Days as described in the Book of Revelations, except instead of it happening on the plain of Megiddo, they reckon it's going to happen in Dabiq