Imagine for a minute ...

[BoyNextDoor]

Hillary edges out Sanders by getting more superdelegates, but Bernie has more of the popular vote. The GOP fights it out to the bitter end and in the Convention selects Kasich. Trump freaks out. Bernie is pissed. Both run as independent candidates in the General.

I actually do not think this is all that much of a stretch in this year where all the rules are out the window, and I believe that some version of this will come to pass. Maybe Cruz and not Kasich. Maybe some other candidate jumps in loudly as an independent, but I can see four candidates on the ballot slugging it out in November.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary edges out Sanders by getting more superdelegates, but Bernie has more of the popular vote. The GOP fights it out to the bitter end and in the Convention selects Kasich. Trump freaks out. Bernie is pissed. Both run as independent candidates in the General.

I actually do not think this is all that much of a stretch in this year where all the rules are out the window, and I believe that some version of this will come to pass. Maybe Cruz and not Kasich. Maybe some other candidate jumps in loudly as an independent, but I can see four candidates on the ballot slugging it out in November.

And the election is thrown into the Supreme Court who are hung in a 4-4 tie so a run off is called, appealed, and litigated and Obama has to spend another four years as President to sort out the clusterfuck!

 

[BoyNextDoor]

And the election is thrown into the Supreme Court who are hung in a 4-4 tie so a run off is called, appealed, and litigated and Obama has to spend another four years as President to sort out the clusterfuck!

HA! I swear I would buy stock in every publicly traded tin foil maker and tin futures.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Bernie is already an independent and Trump has made noises about running as an independent candidate. This is definitely a possibility.

Actually, there are more than four choices on the ballot already, at least in CA.

There were six in 2012, besides write-in candidates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California,_2012

Candidate Ballot Access:
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan, Republican
Barack Obama/Joseph Biden, Democratic
Gary Johnson/James P. Gray, Libertarian
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala, Green
Tom Hoefling/Robert Ornelas, Independent
Roseanne Barr/Cindy Sheehan, Peace and Freedom

Write-In Candidate Access:
Virgil Goode/Jim Clymer, Constitution
Rocky Anderson/Luis J. Rodriguez, Justice
James Harris/Maura DeLuca, Socialist Workers
Stewart Alexander/Alejandro Mendoza, Socialist
Jerry White/Phyllis Scherrer, Socialist Equality
Stephen Durham/Christina Lopez, Freedom Socialist
Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano [6]

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Actually, there are more than four choices on the ballot already, at least in CA.

Every cycle there are a bunch ranging from the Rainbow-Green Party to the Libertarians. In MA there is a Pirate Party getting ballot space in some years.

I am talking about a national event where no one gets 35% in a Presidential election and the winner is not a part of the two party system.

 

[phrodeau]

So you're talking about independent candidates splitting the votes on both sides, and possibly a tie.

It wouldn't go to the Supreme Court though. The duty falls on Congress to elect the President in the case of a tie.

 

[Boxlicker101]

So you're talking about independent candidates splitting the votes on both sides, and possibly a tie.

It wouldn't go to the Supreme Court though. The duty falls on Congress to elect the President in the case of a tie.

And every stare, regardless of pop. gets one vote and there would be a separate ballot for VP. There is no provision for a runoff election.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Every cycle there are a bunch ranging from the Rainbow-Green Party to the Libertarians. In MA there is a Pirate Party getting ballot space in some years.

I am talking about a national event where no one gets 35% in a Presidential election and the winner is not a part of the two party system.

What does 35% have to do with it? The new POTUS would need a majority of the electoral votes cast. The last time more than two candidates received electoral votes was 1968 - Nixon, Humphrey, Wallace.

 

[Noor]

Every cycle there are a bunch ranging from the Rainbow-Green Party to the Libertarians. In MA there is a Pirate Party getting ballot space in some years.

I am talking about a national event where no one gets 35% in a Presidential election and the winner is not a part of the two party system.

I don't think that will happen. I think it will be Kasich and Clinton, and Clinton will win. I could be wrong of course. I am not fond of any of them. Clinton seems the most qualifier, but I don't like her choices.
There is a majority of women in this country. If every women votes a straight female ticket she could easily win.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I don't think that will happen. I think it will be Kasich and Clinton, and Clinton will win. I could be wrong of course. I am not fond of any of them. Clinton seems the most qualifier, but I don't like her choices.
There is a majority of women in this country. If every women votes a straight female ticket she could easily win.

Youre so wrong you qualified for my Dum Fucks List.

What DF ^^^ misses is, Hillarys gonna fuck Bernie and piss off his supporters who will vote for Trump. Vice versa Rubio and Cruz voters wont vote for Hillary when Trump prevails the honest way.

 

[NeonSubtlety]

When I'm feeling especially unrealistic, I like to imagine myself motorboating minka kelly while Emmy Rossum reads books naked. But, I suppose we're all entitled to our crazy fantasies.

 

[about_average]

Youre so wrong you qualified for my Dum Fucks List.

What DF ^^^ misses is, Hillarys gonna fuck Bernie and piss off his supporters who will vote for Trump. Vice versa Rubio and Cruz voters wont vote for Hillary when Trump prevails the honest way.

Talk about a dumb fuck.
Right, Sanders supporters are going to switch, not only candidates, but parties, and vote for trump.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Talk about a dumb fuck.
Right, Sanders supporters are going to switch, not only candidates, but parties, and vote for trump.

They'll probably write in Sanders or else not vote for anybody. I don't expect Hillary to lose the nomination, though. Unless she's under indictment or actually in prison, she will win going away. Bernie just doesn't have enough support from rank-and-file Dems. He did well in the two caucus states because of fanatical supporters and he won what amounts to his home state, but he is way behind in SC. After March 1, I expect him to be way behind in total delegates, not even counting the super delegates that HRC will have.

He and Trump are a lot alike, in that both have a cadre of supporters but not much beyond that. If Trump were going head to head against one opponent, he would be losing too.

That is strictly my opinion, FWIW but we will know more on Tuesday of next week and even more two weeks later.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

What does 35% have to do with it? The new POTUS would need a majority of the electoral votes cast. The last time more than two candidates received electoral votes was 1968 - Nixon, Humphrey, Wallace.

Right, 270 electoral votes to win. If no one gets 270 it goes to the House of Reps. That would suck.


ETA

Four times a candidate has won the popular vote and lost the election. Andrew Jackson in 1824 (to John Quincy Adams); Samuel Tilden in 1876 (to Rutherford B. Hayes); Grover Cleveland in 1888 (to Benjamin Harrison); Al Gore in 2000 (to George W. Bush).

 

[dan_c00000]

Hillary edges out Sanders by getting more superdelegates, but Bernie has more of the popular vote. The GOP fights it out to the bitter end and in the Convention selects Kasich.

I can't imagine that because there's exactly zero percent change of that happening. At least come up with something plausible like aliens come down and pretend to be Bob Dole.

https://www.latentexistence.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/voted-for-kodos.png

 

[patient1]

I don't think that will happen. I think it will be Kasich and Clinton, and Clinton will win. I could be wrong of course. I am not fond of any of them. Clinton seems the most qualifier, but I don't like her choices.
There is a majority of women in this country. If every women votes a straight female ticket she could easily win.

Sure. The trouble with Hillary is that she is so very polarizing. Kasich, as the governor of a large swing state, has learned to reach out to people. He out- performs her in head to head polling. (EDIT- 49% to 38% USA Today Feb 17th, 47% to 39% Quinnipiac Feb 18th, ) Kasich is well qualified, with experience including Governor of a large swing state since 2010 and member of Congress from 1983- 2000, including armed services and the budget committee, which he also chaired.


Honestly, I can't see the Republicans putting Kasich forward unless they suddenly became more interested in winning than blaming and complaining. They seem to have a gift for finding candidates who are as controversial as Hillary.