Score Another One For The NRA!!

[phrodeau]

1) I never said gun violence was because of GFZ's, just that massacres happen in them far more often than at gun shows/ranges/stores.

2) MotherJones is about as serious as Britbart or AmericanStinker. Everyone not totally fucking (D)ick sucking loon now takes you less seriously as they should.

3) Get some proof more massacres/spree/rampage shootings happen at gun shows than in GFZ's or get bent you gun-sterical libtard. Otherwise I'm going to stick tew mah gunz!!!!

Gun free zones = more..... FAR more at risk of being shot the fuck up than gun shows/ranges/stores.

How about military installations? There seems to be a lot of shootings at those places.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...litary-Installations-in-the-US-223933651.html

 

[BotanyBoy]

You sure do whine a lot, for a former infantryman.

Care to highlight the whiny part?

Was it where I was calling your bullshit or laughing at the lame sauce whackadoodle source you tried to play off as legit?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpGRgsoFsIIJ9_FmtzutOaBknD7Zof_fO4-ZbGVyy3lAIxnAyg

How about military installations? There seems to be a lot of shootings at those places.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...litary-Installations-in-the-US-223933651.html

Gun free zones, and even if they weren't the sheer volume of military instillation vs schools, public buildings, theaters and churches is laughable.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Care to highlight the whiny part?

Was it where I was calling your bullshit or laughing at the lame sauce whackadoodle source you tried to play off as legit?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpGRgsoFsIIJ9_FmtzutOaBknD7Zof_fO4-ZbGVyy3lAIxnAyg

Aww, lookee everyone! Brother Kimchi wants me to play defense!

Just like Busybody.

Declarin' "victory" too!

 

[sigh]

I do understand the abuse that was taking place. But in those several rulings (4 in all as I recall, 2 of which were landmark) we went from virtually no protections for the victimized, to a threshold set so high that it is almost impossible to keep the homicidally inclined in their rubber rooms.

To put it another way, for every single individual wrongly placed in the mental institutions, 25 that did belong there were put out on the street.

Ishmael

You gotta back that up. It just ain't so.

And even if they were "just put out on the street" then it was incumbent on us to find a safe, minimally restrictive environment for them to live. These are humans, most of whom had committed no crimes, and so had as much right to be out and about as you and me.

Hell, nowadays they even fit in. With smartphones and bluetooth, everybody is walking around talking to themselves.

Oh, and all it takes is a judge to commit a person to a home for the criminally insane. Same as it takes to sentence any other criminal to jail. What lesser standard are you hoping for?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Aww, lookee everyone! Brother Kimchi wants me to play defense!

Just like Busybody.

Oh look RacistDownSouth is here showing his true colors....I must be getting under his skin he's usually pretty good about hiding how truly Southern and Texan he REALLY is.

Declarin' "victory" too!

Is that your a list of gun show massacres putting gun free zones to shame because guns are just so evil and GFZ's are super effective at stopping spree/mass/rampage shootings?

Oh sorry I thought you had something other than hot air.

Oh well maybe next time!

 

[sigh]

The Constitution commands that II cannot be repealed - that's the specifically intended political purpose of the Amendment itself:

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That's because that right is an inalienable one, superior to all acts of federal government and/or emotionally socialist wishes of mob rule fangirls like you.

Thus, any process started to infringe upon it would instantly be in direct violation of the Constitution specifically commanding it can't be infringed upon.



Since any effort to repeal the 2nd is naturally unconstitutional, the only way to make it so in this country - that citizens do not have the inalienable right to keep and bear arms - is by absolute force...

...unless you truly fantasize any significant number of American gun owners/Constitution supporters would actually, voluntarily cede their cherished inalienable right to such a tyrannically unconstitutional act.

I pray I live to see the day if you wannabes ever do decide so foolishly to go ahead with that suicide march...

You have read the main body of the Constitution, and not just the amendments, right? I've read your inalienable rights arguments many times over, and like I said, you believe in your fairy tales and I'll believe in mine.

I'm not fantasizing about anything, wannabe cock-waver. All I said was that I would consider supporting a repeal (or perhaps rewording) of the second. And if I choose to do so, your silly arguments about natural rights to own guns, and not being able to amend that one part of the Constitution, wouldn't sway me a bit. So keep your dick in your pants, mister American gun owner. It's a moot point anyway. The second is not going to be repealed, which is why those who hate it so much keep trying to legislate it away.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Well, there is the Montana (Minnesota?) approach. After you serve your time, they keep you confined 'for treatment' because you might just possibly, maybe someday do it again.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The Constitution commands that II cannot be repealed - that's the specifically intended political purpose of the Amendment itself:

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That's because that right is an inalienable one, superior to all acts of federal government and/or emotionally socialist wishes of mob rule fangirls like you.

Thus, any process started to infringe upon it would instantly be in direct violation of the Constitution specifically commanding it can't be infringed upon.



Since any effort to repeal the 2nd is naturally unconstitutional, the only way to make it so in this country - that citizens do not have the inalienable right to keep and bear arms - is by absolute force...

...unless you truly fantasize any significant number of American gun owners/Constitution supporters would actually, voluntarily cede their cherished inalienable right to such a tyrannically unconstitutional act.

I pray I live to see the day if you wannabes ever do decide so foolishly to go ahead with that suicide march...

Nice to know you advocate allowing 8 year old kids to own guns.

I also like the part where you say if gun owners don't get their way they'll immediately kill people with their guns.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Oh look RacistDownSouth is here showing his true colors....I must be getting under his skin he's usually pretty good about hiding how truly Southern and Texan he REALLY is.



Is that your a list of gun show massacres putting gun free zones to shame because guns are just so evil and GFZ's are super effective at stopping spree/mass/rampage shootings?

Oh sorry I thought you had something other than hot air.

Oh well maybe next time!

Question, how many/often are mass shootings in a court room? Those are GFZ's.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Question, how many/often are mass shootings in a court room? Those are GFZ's.

IDK but I can't imagine too much more often than a police station, it's a suicide run and usually doesn't get very far. They happen no doubt but nothing like the schools/churches as far as frequency or casualties.

From what google is showing me across several sites about 8-10 per year on the courtroom shootings.

Higher than ever before, in the 90's it was about 3-6/year and before that about 1-3 a year steady until you get back to the 50's where it seems courtroom shootings were either not very well documented or pretty rare.

Still compare that to school shootings...LOL it's like a 35+ to 1

 

[Ishmael]

You gotta back that up. It just ain't so.

And even if they were "just put out on the street" then it was incumbent on us to find a safe, minimally restrictive environment for them to live. These are humans, most of whom had committed no crimes, and so had as much right to be out and about as you and me.

Hell, nowadays they even fit in. With smartphones and bluetooth, everybody is walking around talking to themselves.

Oh, and all it takes is a judge to commit a person to a home for the criminally insane. Same as it takes to sentence any other criminal to jail. What lesser standard are you hoping for?

First of all mother of my unborn child, it's up to you to dig the refutation out.

As far as the "even if it were" comment. No, we have no responsibility towards them at all. The SCOTUS has found that they are responsible for themselves.

Ishmael

 

[BoyNextDoor]

More guns.

More dead.

GO NRA!!

Darwin award winner for sure. Let them all have 'da gunz. No matter the melanin content of their skin they all shoot themselves and their friends for the most part anyway.

 

[Ishmael]

Well, there is the Montana (Minnesota?) approach. After you serve your time, they keep you confined 'for treatment' because you might just possibly, maybe someday do it again.

I assume you ARE pro-life.......right?

Ishmael

 

[putzpotus]

More guns.

More dead.

GO NRA!!

if it would be up to you

there would be dead people

T-Mobile store employee with concealed carry license shoots 2 armed robbery suspects: http://abc7.ws/1J3NTvI

 

[sigh]

First of all mother of my unborn child, it's up to you to dig the refutation out.

As far as the "even if it were" comment. No, we have no responsibility towards them at all. The SCOTUS has found that they are responsible for themselves.

Ishmael

So you can't cite a source? Really, Ish, that's the basis for all information sharing. You cannot assert that something is true unless it is proven false. That's bullshit and you know it. If you state it as truth, it's up to you to prove it's so.

And I'm not saying the court's solution was right, only that the situation as it stood needed to be changed. And it was. To the better of us all. The state should not have the power to incarcerate someone indefinitely without due process. Even if they are nutty. A good libertarian would understand that.

 

[Sean]

So you can't cite a source? Really, Ish, that's the basis for all information sharing. You cannot assert that something is true unless it is proven false. That's bullshit and you know it. If you state it as truth, it's up to you to prove it's so.

Ish said it's true and that should be good enough for anyone! What are you, some kind of commie?

 

[sigh]

Except that the Constitution itself - not "fairy tales" - intentionally commands shall not...

...so your "fairy tales", whatever your emotional ego needs them so desperately to be, have no actual relevance constitutionally at all.





And that is probably a great reason why it took so long for the 19th to be ratified.

Here, allow me to dash your emotional "fairy tales" once more:



Besides your emotions, you just can't quite seem to get anything right.

BTW, wannabe: I don't own a gun.

You keep going to the WORD, as if that's proof of anything. I'm not questioning the words. I'm questioning your faith that's led to your emotion-driven, faith-steeped, fairy-tail interpretation of those words. TRY to understand (this requires logic, so try really hard to focus), you have to BELIEVE in natural rights before anything you say carries any weight at all. And yes, it does require belief, and no, I don't follow that particular fairy tale.

And guess what, wannabe. I do own guns. This has nothing to do with my personal feelings about guns or gun ownership. Hell, I only said i'd consider supporting a new amendment. I'm not at all sold on that. It would depend entirely on what it said.

 

[richard_daily]

I'm waiting for the old style High Noon stories of Dodge City, Tombstone, Laredo, etc. You know they're coming.

No, I know they aren't.

There are plenty of people who said the same thing with concealed carry, and it didn't happen. It won't happen with open carry either.

Wishing that it will, won't make it true, unless you're planning on getting out there yourself and making it happen.

 

[ShavedHed]

More guns, less crime

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm getting worried that the NRA is going to break into my guns safe and command my guns to go load themselves and then go on a mass killing spree...

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[Sean]

More guns, less crime

That article is factually wrong on so many levels it's not funny.

 

[sigh]

Interpret this:



Can you do that, wannabe?

Sure I can do that, but why? What do I care what the judge wrote in that case? Clearly, he lived under the same delusions as you. Honestly, I would love to believe, just as you believe, in magical natural rights. How easy and comforting that must be. But the problem I have with that is that all the crap people want me to believe runs headlong into these things I have called thoughts. I have them all the time. Obviously, you don't, and are much happier borrowing yours from somebody else.

You stick to your fairy tales. I'll trust my thoughts. It's America. We can both do that at the same time without either of us being worried about reprisal. So enjoy and believe, wannabe. I'm not gonna stop you.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Interpret this:



Can you do that, wannabe?

Tell me how you feel that Iran should have nukes or shut up.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Toddler killed after grandmother's gun goes off in bed, New Orleans police say
NOLA.com - ‎1 hour ago‎



The 45-year-old grandmother, who works as a security guard, told New Orleans police she was sleeping in bed with her grandson when her gun, which was under the pillow, fired.

......

 

[richard_daily]

I'm waiting for the old style High Noon stories of Dodge City, Tombstone, Laredo, etc. You know they're coming.

No, I know they aren't.

There are plenty of people who said the same thing with concealed carry, and it didn't happen. It won't happen with open carry either.

Wishing that it will, won't make it true, unless you're planning on getting out there yourself and making it happen.

Still waiting on you to address the falsehood you posted here...

Any updates?