"HAH HAH, you have AIDS!" A rapist gets what he deserves

[loquere]

It's dark & near midnight. A seemingly beautiful young woman is attacked while walking down an alleyway. A man holds a nife to her and forces himself on her, she screams and struggles but barely. He eventually pins her down, fucking her without a condom. With him on top of her grinning while she has a frightened look on her face.

A minute later as he cums inside her, she shocks him by lifting her head up and kissing him, the frightened look on her face is gone. He's confused, he gets even more confused when she breaks out into an uncontrolled heckling laugh.

"Bitch what's so funny?" He says smacking her face.

"I have AIDS, not HIV & now you have it too," she confesses with a grin, the same kind of grin he once had.

"No" he says then he pulls out a mini flashlight he had in his pocket and shines it on her and sees her face covered in AIDS lesions. He stumbles backwards and off her, now terrified of the woman he just violated.

"HAH HAH, you have AIDS!" She continues pointing towards him

He now has a frightened look on his face while running away out of the alley & into traffic where he is hit by a speeding fire truck & killed instantly.


[That's my story idea] - This woman with AIDS uses the cover of darkness to hide the AIDS lesions on her body, as she's violates violators.

 

[lovecraft68]

That could work in erotic horror.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's just kinda silly and full of holes.

First I had to look up AIDS lesions just to know what such a thing is because I didn't think they were real. Which I admit to not knowing EVERYTHING but I feel safe stating that 90% of people have no clue about any visible outward signs of the HIV virus (which is what they would get not AIDS.) and clearly most people have no major tell tale signs. The virus wouldn't have spread if it did. Which leads to even if she DID have these lesions most people would probably put it off as a rash unless we have moved to some fantasy world where HIV is so fucking common that people can tell the difference between it and any other skin irritation.

Second unless the woman is intimately involved in this man the set up is too random for a story. In real life an HIV positive woman could just be walking home from work, get raped, and spitefully laugh at her rapist at the end. Cus real life can be random. Fiction has to adhere to more rules. She had to have intentionally been where she was intending to get raped. Or she's just suicidal but that's rough too.

 

[loquere]

It's just kinda silly and full of holes.

First I had to look up AIDS lesions just to know what such a thing is because I didn't think they were real. Which I admit to not knowing EVERYTHING but I feel safe stating that 90% of people have no clue about any visible outward signs of the HIV virus (which is what they would get not AIDS.) and clearly most people have no major tell tale signs. The virus wouldn't have spread if it did. Which leads to even if she DID have these lesions most people would probably put it off as a rash unless we have moved to some fantasy world where HIV is so fucking common that people can tell the difference between it and any other skin irritation.

Second unless the woman is intimately involved in this man the set up is too random for a story. In real life an HIV positive woman could just be walking home from work, get raped, and spitefully laugh at her rapist at the end. Cus real life can be random. Fiction has to adhere to more rules. She had to have intentionally been where she was intending to get raped. Or she's just suicidal but that's rough too.

1. That's utter nonsense fiction does not have to adhere to reality.
2. She had chosen not to atain HIV medication, so she does not have HIV she has AIDS. She intends to die and make the world a better place before dieing.
3. As I allude to at the end of the story, this woman walks around every night luring in rapists. She has done this before and will do it again, until she dies which will be soon.
4. I'm assuming many people watched the popular film Philadelphia, including our dead rapist friend.

 

[loquere]

That could work in erotic horror.

Yes, I was thinking 'Erotic Horror' or 'Non consent reluctance.'

 

[Sean Renaud]

1. That's utter nonsense fiction does not have to adhere to reality.
2. She had chosen not to atain HIV medication, so she does not have HIV she has AIDS. She intends to die and make the world a better place before dieing.
3. As I allude to at the end of the story, this woman walks around every night luring in rapists. She has done this before and will do it again, until she dies which will be soon.
4. I'm assuming many people watched the popular film Philadelphia, including our dead rapist friend.

1. If you don't want pissed off readers it absolutely must. It's absolutely shocking how many people make this utterly retarded comment.
2. You still don't catch AIDs. You contract HIV. No matter how sick she is the thing that will be passed on to her victim is HIV.
3. Fair enough.
4. Ignoring that he's not dead, given modern medicine might live a long relatively normal life that's assuming they've seen the movie and believe it to be factual but fair enough.

 

[loquere]

1. If you don't want pissed off readers it absolutely must. It's absolutely shocking how many people make this utterly retarded comment.
2. You still don't catch AIDs. You contract HIV. No matter how sick she is the thing that will be passed on to her victim is HIV.
3. Fair enough.
4. Ignoring that he's not dead, given modern medicine might live a long relatively normal life that's assuming they've seen the movie and believe it to be factual but fair enough.

1. One writes for themself. I turned off my comments long ago, I honestly don't care what the readers think.
2. I give you that point, you're right. He'll get HIV, but he'll still freak out and get hit by a speeding fire truck.
3. Cool beans.
4. In the movie the character played by Tom Hanks I think gets AIDS after missing the signs of HIV and did not get treatment in time or something like that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

1. That doesn't change reality. Good writing makes sense and isn't just spaghetti thrown at the wall. If someone throws Spiderman off a building and he sprouts wings and flies away as you are suggesting people are gonna be pissed with good fucking reason. Cus Spiderman CAN'T FUCKING FLY!

2. True.

3.

4. I saw the movie as a kid and it's honestly mixed in there with GATTACA, Lorenzo's Oil and Roots with bunch of other movies teachers insisted I watch.

 

[loquere]

1. That doesn't change reality. Good writing makes sense and isn't just spaghetti thrown at the wall. If someone throws Spiderman off a building and he sprouts wings and flies away as you are suggesting people are gonna be pissed with good fucking reason. Cus Spiderman CAN'T FUCKING FLY!

2. True.

3.

4. I saw the movie as a kid and it's honestly mixed in there with GATTACA, Lorenzo's Oil and Roots with bunch of other movies teachers insisted I watch.

1. Okay, so suggest ways to improve the idea, don't dismiss it. Like the movie 'Fury' where Brad Pitt wanted to kill Nazi's I want to kill rapists.

 

[lovecraft68]

It's just kinda silly and full of holes.

First I had to look up AIDS lesions just to know what such a thing is because I didn't think they were real. Which I admit to not knowing EVERYTHING but I feel safe stating that 90% of people have no clue about any visible outward signs of the HIV virus (which is what they would get not AIDS.) and clearly most people have no major tell tale signs. The virus wouldn't have spread if it did. Which leads to even if she DID have these lesions most people would probably put it off as a rash unless we have moved to some fantasy world where HIV is so fucking common that people can tell the difference between it and any other skin irritation.

Second unless the woman is intimately involved in this man the set up is too random for a story. In real life an HIV positive woman could just be walking home from work, get raped, and spitefully laugh at her rapist at the end. Cus real life can be random. Fiction has to adhere to more rules. She had to have intentionally been where she was intending to get raped. Or she's just suicidal but that's rough too.

Lesions? Come on, Sean, I know you're the youngest guy on the interwebz, but you never saw Philadelphia?

And allshe has to do is walk around at night in neighborhoods that have a lot of violence committed to women and dress skanky.

For instance we could send this fictional woman to Germany and thin out the infestation there.

I still think there would be potential for this in EH, and it has a bit of urban myth flavor to it.

But its not my style.

I like my rapists, burned, beaten and slowly sliced to pieces.

 

[EquinoxRising]

Of course, though, there's the huge obstacle of "erotic" in the EH category...

 

[Sean Renaud]

1. Okay, so suggest ways to improve the idea, don't dismiss it. Like the movie 'Fury' where Brad Pitt wanted to kill Nazi's I want to kill rapists.

Wasn't that Inglorious Bastards? Regardless I didn't dismiss the idea, merely pointed out a gaping hole that is need of fixing. Honestly I don't know of an easy fix for this problem though the easiest by far is to slip into fantasy and simply create a new disease with different traits. If you insist on H.I.V. I'd probably leave your current explanation as is, it works as well as anything i suppose.

Lesions? Come on, Sean, I know you're the youngest guy on the interwebz, but you never saw Philadelphia?

And allshe has to do is walk around at night in neighborhoods that have a lot of violence committed to women and dress skanky.

For instance we could send this fictional woman to Germany and thin out the infestation there.

I still think there would be potential for this in EH, and it has a bit of urban myth flavor to it.

But its not my style.

I like my rapists, burned, beaten and slowly sliced to pieces.

I was a kid when I saw it and it made no major impression on me. Magic Johnson is the "face" of AIDS for my age bracket and I don't recall him looking crazy.

I agree she could get attacked.

 

[lovecraft68]

Wasn't that Inglorious Bastards? Regardless I didn't dismiss the idea, merely pointed out a gaping hole that is need of fixing. Honestly I don't know of an easy fix for this problem though the easiest by far is to slip into fantasy and simply create a new disease with different traits. If you insist on H.I.V. I'd probably leave your current explanation as is, it works as well as anything i suppose.



I was a kid when I saw it and it made no major impression on me. Magic Johnson is the "face" of AIDS for my age bracket and I don't recall him looking crazy.

I agree she could get attacked.

But Johnson carried it, it was never 'active"

I personally hated he fact he was made into some type of hero. The asshole screwed everything that moved(how he contracted it in the first place) and would then go home to his wife.

So the martyr thing was lost on me where he was concerned, but if he did some good for the cause then at least that's something.

 

[Sean Renaud]

But Johnson carried it, it was never 'active"

I personally hated he fact he was made into some type of hero. The asshole screwed everything that moved(how he contracted it in the first place) and would then go home to his wife.

So the martyr thing was lost on me where he was concerned, but if he did some good for the cause then at least that's something.

In hindsight I can see why you'd feel that way. At the time I don't even think I was a teen and this was before the press decided tearing down sports stars was cool. (No value judgement from me on that front mind you whether that is good or bad. Simply stating that for my age Johnson, Jordon, pre-rape Tyson, Bo Dallas. Bo know Football, Bo know Baseball Two in one Handheld Tiger electronics! It was a little like finding out Batman had cancer.

Ultimately for diseases I don't care whether they get attention because they finally hit someone who matters (i.e. Johnson) or if everybody decides to dump a bucket of ice water over their heads or if prowrestlers and football players want to spent a month a year rocking pink.

 

[loquere]

Of course, though, there's the huge obstacle of "erotic" in the EH category...

I'm currently doing a pros/cons list to decide between Noncon-reluctance & EH.

 

[EquinoxRising]

I'm currently doing a pros/cons list to decide between Noncon-reluctance & EH.

Just remember, in Non Consent "the victim must like it by the end"... Perhaps you should look up the story idea here about the "Bug Chasers"?

 

[loquere]

Just remember, in Non Consent "the victim must like it by the end"... Perhaps you should look up the story idea here about the "Bug Chasers"?

In the idea above both participants are predators and victims. I'll check out, "bug chasers."

To be honest at the end of the day EH might be the best fit, with the subject matter and the death angle.

 

[lovecraft68]

Just remember, in Non Consent "the victim must like it by the end"... Perhaps you should look up the story idea here about the "Bug Chasers"?

I appreciate you bringing that up, but please.

Go read your own sticky about "slippery slope" and how if it fits the story its okay. So non con is about rape so if someone is raped it fits he story, right? That's as good of an explanation as Laurel could come up with when I challenged her on it and is deliberately vague so she can reject based on personal whim-or when she feels like doing more than five second story skins- not a cut and dried you can/can't so you get this which makes no sense..

The original rule-as linked in that killer muffin post still linked in the FAQ about story rejections- was what you just said, which is clear, but seeing it made no sense in a non consent category and is never enforced there needed to be toe tapping and "Its slippery"

 

[lovecraft68]

Of course, though, there's the huge obstacle of "erotic" in the EH category...

I've found EH stories that were all H and no E. I'd rather see that than the stories which are well done, but then feature a crappy half ass sex scene the author stumbles through and is disingenuous because they felt they had to stick sex in.

I think people go to EH for horror more than sex, if they wanted sex they would be reading EC or a kink specific category.

So I think it would still fly and if she is raped without an intent at titillation, it should pass. And the people who get off on rape are in NCR and won't go near horror for the simple reason of this topic, bad people have bad things happen to them in EH and rape fans don't like that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Just remember, in Non Consent "the victim must like it by the end"... Perhaps you should look up the story idea here about the "Bug Chasers"?

Not that that is actually true but in this case it's almost entirely beside the point. The "victim" here from the traditional standpoint is still the woman and the rapist is presumably enjoying this from top to bottom until he finds out that he goofed. There are plenty of stories, a few by me I think where rapist stumble into a succubus or other supernatural thing do their thing and as they zip up to go the woman says "oh, before you go there are things much scarier than muggers."

 

[loquere]

Not that that is actually true but in this case it's almost entirely beside the point. The "victim" here from the traditional standpoint is still the woman and the rapist is presumably enjoying this from top to bottom until he finds out that he goofed. There are plenty of stories, a few by me I think where rapist stumble into a succubus or other supernatural thing do their thing and as they zip up to go the woman says "oh, before you go there are things much scarier than muggers."

I love succubus stories, I almost made the woman in this story idea a Vampire with AIDS, but I decided that wouldn't fly.

Sean please post a link to those stories you wrote that contain that twist. I wanna read them, thanks.

 

[loquere]

I appreciate you bringing that up, but please.

Go read your own sticky about "slippery slope" and how if it fits the story its okay. So non con is about rape so if someone is raped it fits he story, right? That's as good of an explanation as Laurel could come up with when I challenged her on it and is deliberately vague so she can reject based on personal whim-or when she feels like doing more than five second story skins- not a cut and dried you can/can't so you get this which makes no sense..

The original rule-as linked in that killer muffin post still linked in the FAQ about story rejections- was what you just said, which is clear, but seeing it made no sense in a non consent category and is never enforced there needed to be toe tapping and "Its slippery"

I've found EH stories that were all H and no E. I'd rather see that than the stories which are well done, but then feature a crappy half ass sex scene the author stumbles through and is disingenuous because they felt they had to stick sex in.

I think people go to EH for horror more than sex, if they wanted sex they would be reading EC or a kink specific category.

So I think it would still fly and if she is raped without an intent at titillation, it should pass. And the people who get off on rape are in NCR and won't go near horror for the simple reason of this topic, bad people have bad things happen to them in EH and rape fans don't like that.

So EH it is, thanks LC.

 

[Hypoxia]

For some reason I'm reminded of old underground comix by Rand Holmes ("Harold Hedd"). A super-hot vixen trolls bars for a drunk arrogant dork to take home for fucking. He's in post-coital fatigue after his quickie (he's a 45-second wonder). She slips from the bed -- and her pet T.Rex eats the guy. She chides the beast: "You just don't appreciate what I have to go through to keep you fed."

Anyway, the AIDS scenario won't fly; it's too slow, and treatable. Try Ebola or Plague or maybe radiation poisoning.

 

[loquere]

For some reason I'm reminded of old underground comix by Rand Holmes ("Harold Hedd"). A super-hot vixen trolls bars for a drunk arrogant dork to take home for fucking. He's in post-coital fatigue after his quickie (he's a 45-second wonder). She slips from the bed -- and her pet T.Rex eats the guy. She chides the beast: "You just don't appreciate what I have to go through to keep you fed."

Anyway, the AIDS scenario won't fly; it's too slow, and treatable. Try Ebola or Plague or maybe radiation poisoning.

Yes HIV is treatable, but in the moment I intend for the rapist to be non compos mentis, as he panics himself to death by fire truck.

She has chosen not to have her HIV treated, as she chooses to hunt rapists until she dies from AIDS.

EBOLA IS CURABLE & like the PLAGUE would just be too dangerous for the wider community. Radiation poisoning feels like blatant murder. AIDS HAS A ROMANTIC QUALITY TO ME.

 

[Iceprincess12]

It's dark & near midnight. A seemingly beautiful young woman is attacked while walking down an alleyway. A man holds a nife to her and forces himself on her, she screams and struggles but barely. He eventually pins her down, fucking her without a condom. With him on top of her grinning while she has a frightened look on her face.

A minute later as he cums inside her, she shocks him by lifting her head up and kissing him, the frightened look on her face is gone. He's confused, he gets even more confused when she breaks out into an uncontrolled heckling laugh.

"Bitch what's so funny?" He says smacking her face.

"I have AIDS, not HIV & now you have it too," she confesses with a grin, the same kind of grin he once had.

"No" he says then he pulls out a mini flashlight he had in his pocket and shines it on her and sees her face covered in AIDS lesions. He stumbles backwards and off her, now terrified of the woman he just violated.

"HAH HAH, you have AIDS!" She continues pointing towards him

He now has a frightened look on his face while running away out of the alley & into traffic where he is hit by a speeding fire truck & killed instantly.


[That's my story idea] - This woman with AIDS uses the cover of darkness to hide the AIDS lesions on her body, as she's violates violators.

I didn't realize this kind of subject was a category but either way, this sounds so boring. If she is looking for men, then how is that rape? If they die in accidental ways then why does she need to have aids? Just have her pretend to have it.

Rapists may not be rocket scientists but everyone knows about CSI and not leaving bodily fluids inside a woman. If she is screaming, he doesn't shut her up? No one hears her...ever? He is just a rapist walking along hoping there is a secluded spot to rape her? Those issues seem pretty outlandish.

I must be missing the point of this category but I don't see anything exciting or any conflict here.