Ishmael
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Yes, a second thread on the subject. The reason is that by the time a thread gets to the 4th page it's generally been sidetracked off onto peripheral issues. That's an observation, not a bitch. It's the way things are and have always been, no matter what the subject or which forum. Hell, even some of the pix threads lose focus.
My thesis was/is that we're at war with all of Islam. Here's my case;
The Philosophy:
No matter where you look, everywhere you find Muslims you find problems. Acts of terrorism have been enacted on every continent on the planet save one, Antarctica. Where they are not murdering infidels and barbarians they are murdering each other, all in the name of Allah. In Europe Muslim men are responsible for such a high percentage of sexual assaults and rapes that the various nations stopped reporting the religion of the offenders back in the 2001-3 time frame. The Qu'ran teaches a political philosophy that is immiscible with any form of Western Democracy and immiscible with any form of secular law. Even the so called 'moderate' Muslims disapprove of both. Google "terrorist organizations" and look at the list. Out of an astonishingly long list only a handful are NOT Islamic. And most of those that aren't are communist organizations that haven't seemed to have gotten the news yet.
The Recruiting Issue - AKA "Blame the Victim";
We are told that if we say this or do that we are aiding in the recruitment of radicals. Trump, Gitmo, Obama, Clinton, killing this leader or that Imam (all preachers of hate). What an absolute crock of bullshit.
In the 1990's the US Dept. of Transportation ran a PSA campaign, "Don't Let a Good Kid Go Bad." It didn't run long. Back then the citizenry hadn't come down with brain atrophy. The DOT was so swamped with letters and calls of outrage that they pulled the program. The entire premise of the program was that it was the victims fault for the criminal behavior.
Here on Lit. the subject of rape comes up from time to time and anyone that intimates that the victim "asked for it" is taken to the mat and rightly so.
But here we have senior elected officials telling us that it is OUR fault that the Muslims become so enraged over segments of public discussion that such discussion should be forever banned. Intimating that we, the victims, are at fault for their murderous behavior. That the smallest offense to their sensibilities is enough to make "a good Muslim go bad." And the most amazing part is the shear number of the population that is swallowing that bilge. Has it taken only one generation for us to have lost our ability to reason?
It's truly a case of the inmates running the asylum. They, along with some truly moronic elected officials, are using the threat of 'making a good Muslim go bad' to silence us, to force us to submit to their will. To control the conversation by silencing the opposition. Just because they're murderous thugs doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. And we're sheepishly allowing them to do it.
It's the Religion:
Read the Qu'ran, read the Haddiths, those book say what they say. Even casual reading leaves no doubt that it is the religion itself teaching and promoting their murderous behavior. There are no major mistakes in the translations, as some apologists would have us believe. The Muslim takes the Qu'ran as the literal word of God. Each and every word are believed to have come from God's big book in the sky. There can be no figurative interpretation of the writings. Even in those instances where God seems to contradict Himself, well, that's just the way it is and God is perfect and we're just silly mortals that fail to understand. It is the core books of the religion that are the recruiting tools. Everything else is just used as an example of how far the object of their murderous intent has strayed from the word of God. The examples are merely supportive evidence at best, not the reason.
It's only the few:
The "few" happen to be 160,000,000 strong with 640,000,000 in support of their goals. Do those number look like 'a few' to anyone here? You notice that the apologists NEVER cite the numbers, only the percentages. The percentages look/sound so much smaller than the reality. If you are buying into the "it's only a few" mantra, I hope you feel comfortable in your 'percentage cocoon.'
Make no mistake, we are at war with Islam, even if we refuse to acknowledge it. They are under no such illusion. We are at war with Islam because it's virtually impossible to separate the fundamentalist from the moderate until after the fact. If we could neatly separate into their own buckets then things might be different, but we can't and they aren't.
Ishmael
My thesis was/is that we're at war with all of Islam. Here's my case;
The Philosophy:
No matter where you look, everywhere you find Muslims you find problems. Acts of terrorism have been enacted on every continent on the planet save one, Antarctica. Where they are not murdering infidels and barbarians they are murdering each other, all in the name of Allah. In Europe Muslim men are responsible for such a high percentage of sexual assaults and rapes that the various nations stopped reporting the religion of the offenders back in the 2001-3 time frame. The Qu'ran teaches a political philosophy that is immiscible with any form of Western Democracy and immiscible with any form of secular law. Even the so called 'moderate' Muslims disapprove of both. Google "terrorist organizations" and look at the list. Out of an astonishingly long list only a handful are NOT Islamic. And most of those that aren't are communist organizations that haven't seemed to have gotten the news yet.
The Recruiting Issue - AKA "Blame the Victim";
We are told that if we say this or do that we are aiding in the recruitment of radicals. Trump, Gitmo, Obama, Clinton, killing this leader or that Imam (all preachers of hate). What an absolute crock of bullshit.
In the 1990's the US Dept. of Transportation ran a PSA campaign, "Don't Let a Good Kid Go Bad." It didn't run long. Back then the citizenry hadn't come down with brain atrophy. The DOT was so swamped with letters and calls of outrage that they pulled the program. The entire premise of the program was that it was the victims fault for the criminal behavior.
Here on Lit. the subject of rape comes up from time to time and anyone that intimates that the victim "asked for it" is taken to the mat and rightly so.
But here we have senior elected officials telling us that it is OUR fault that the Muslims become so enraged over segments of public discussion that such discussion should be forever banned. Intimating that we, the victims, are at fault for their murderous behavior. That the smallest offense to their sensibilities is enough to make "a good Muslim go bad." And the most amazing part is the shear number of the population that is swallowing that bilge. Has it taken only one generation for us to have lost our ability to reason?
It's truly a case of the inmates running the asylum. They, along with some truly moronic elected officials, are using the threat of 'making a good Muslim go bad' to silence us, to force us to submit to their will. To control the conversation by silencing the opposition. Just because they're murderous thugs doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. And we're sheepishly allowing them to do it.
It's the Religion:
Read the Qu'ran, read the Haddiths, those book say what they say. Even casual reading leaves no doubt that it is the religion itself teaching and promoting their murderous behavior. There are no major mistakes in the translations, as some apologists would have us believe. The Muslim takes the Qu'ran as the literal word of God. Each and every word are believed to have come from God's big book in the sky. There can be no figurative interpretation of the writings. Even in those instances where God seems to contradict Himself, well, that's just the way it is and God is perfect and we're just silly mortals that fail to understand. It is the core books of the religion that are the recruiting tools. Everything else is just used as an example of how far the object of their murderous intent has strayed from the word of God. The examples are merely supportive evidence at best, not the reason.
It's only the few:
The "few" happen to be 160,000,000 strong with 640,000,000 in support of their goals. Do those number look like 'a few' to anyone here? You notice that the apologists NEVER cite the numbers, only the percentages. The percentages look/sound so much smaller than the reality. If you are buying into the "it's only a few" mantra, I hope you feel comfortable in your 'percentage cocoon.'
Make no mistake, we are at war with Islam, even if we refuse to acknowledge it. They are under no such illusion. We are at war with Islam because it's virtually impossible to separate the fundamentalist from the moderate until after the fact. If we could neatly separate into their own buckets then things might be different, but we can't and they aren't.
Ishmael
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