Number of uninsured Americans below 10%

RobDownSouth

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We've made great inroads in my lifetime lowering the number of people without access to health care. Much of the improvement occurred since the adoption of the ACA.

Thank you President Obama.

Toubab will be along shortly to insist "we can't trust no nigger government numbers".
 
Then AJ will describe how I've stolen from the taxpayers by paying generously for Obamacare. (Ignoring the fact that all employer provided healthcare has been publicly subsidized forever.:D)
 
yes, america needs more welfare cuz Rob's kind is too fucking lazy to work


punish those that choose to work so that fat rob can sit on its ass
 
Thanks alot, Rob.
Now, I have to pay hundreds of dollars a month on insurance I hardly use instead of paying for it as I needed it...in cash, at a reduced rate because they didn't have to pay a clerk to bill insurance.
I should be happy my dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can go get exams and birth control...isn't that what planned parenthood is for? Isn't that what county medical services are for, based on your income?
To say that people DIDN'T have access to health care is a lie.
Guess my brother should have done better and gotten a better job so the rest of us didn't have to carry him through life.
Thanks, Rob.
 
A fully insured populace is necessary for the profits of the insurance industry. :cattail:
 
Rob is ... well defective




Thanks alot, Rob.
Now, I have to pay hundreds of dollars a month on insurance I hardly use instead of paying for it as I needed it...in cash, at a reduced rate because they didn't have to pay a clerk to bill insurance.
I should be happy my dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can go get exams and birth control...isn't that what planned parenthood is for? Isn't that what county medical services are for, based on your income?
To say that people DIDN'T have access to health care is a lie.
Guess my brother should have done better and gotten a better job so the rest of us didn't have to carry him through life.
Thanks, Rob.
 
Thanks alot, Rob.
Now, I have to pay hundreds of dollars a month on insurance I hardly use instead of paying for it as I needed it...in cash, at a reduced rate because they didn't have to pay a clerk to bill insurance.
I should be happy my dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can go get exams and birth control...isn't that what planned parenthood is for? Isn't that what county medical services are for, based on your income?
To say that people DIDN'T have access to health care is a lie.
Guess my brother should have done better and gotten a better job so the rest of us didn't have to carry him through life.
Thanks, Rob.

You're welcome. Most people are not as responsible as you are and we have to aim for a society that works for the majority of people and that includes the stupid. Yes you should be happy your dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can get exams and birth control. That is part of what Planned Parenthood does. The majority in fact. But ideally they could go anywhere. County medical is a joke.

No, it's not a lie to say that people didn't have access to health care based on their income. That's a simple fact. Your brother getting a better job would be nice but we should still cover his healthcare.
 
You're welcome. Most people are not as responsible as you are and we have to aim for a society that works for the majority of people and that includes the stupid. Yes you should be happy your dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can get exams and birth control. That is part of what Planned Parenthood does. The majority in fact. But ideally they could go anywhere. County medical is a joke.

No, it's not a lie to say that people didn't have access to health care based on their income. That's a simple fact. Your brother getting a better job would be nice but we should still cover his healthcare.

Why should we? It's not my business to educate him. If he chooses to be a loser, why should it fall on society to care for him and his family? Maybe, if things were harder, he would have tried harder to do right by his family, instead of coming to his relatives and society to do it.

Maybe that's the problem today. People expect their hard working neighbors to do everything for them, but don't dare tell them 'your dumb ass should have gotten a better job.'
 
Why should we? It's not my business to educate him. If he chooses to be a loser, why should it fall on society to care for him and his family? Maybe, if things were harder, he would have tried harder to do right by his family, instead of coming to his relatives and society to do it.

Maybe that's the problem today. People expect their hard working neighbors to do everything for them, but don't dare tell them 'your dumb ass should have gotten a better job.'

Well that would be politically incorrect barefoot girl.
 
Why should we? It's not my business to educate him. If he chooses to be a loser, why should it fall on society to care for him and his family? Maybe, if things were harder, he would have tried harder to do right by his family, instead of coming to his relatives and society to do it.

Maybe that's the problem today. People expect their hard working neighbors to do everything for them, but don't dare tell them 'your dumb ass should have gotten a better job.'

Ultimately because he's part of society and if things were harder maybe you wouldn't have suceeded either and other people would be caring for you.

Telling them they should have gotten a better job is ultimately stupid because reality doesn't actually function that way. We can't all run businesses and not just because we're not all smart enough. Someone has to do the busy work because the busy work MUST get done.
 
Thanks alot, Rob.
Now, I have to pay hundreds of dollars a month on insurance I hardly use instead of paying for it as I needed it...in cash, at a reduced rate because they didn't have to pay a clerk to bill insurance.
I should be happy my dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can go get exams and birth control...isn't that what planned parenthood is for? Isn't that what county medical services are for, based on your income?
To say that people DIDN'T have access to health care is a lie.
Guess my brother should have done better and gotten a better job so the rest of us didn't have to carry him through life.
Thanks, Rob.

Why should we? It's not my business to educate him. If he chooses to be a loser, why should it fall on society to care for him and his family? Maybe, if things were harder, he would have tried harder to do right by his family, instead of coming to his relatives and society to do it.

Maybe that's the problem today. People expect their hard working neighbors to do everything for them, but don't dare tell them 'your dumb ass should have gotten a better job.'
If you had a better job, your employer would pay for your health insurance. How about it?
 
If you had a better job, your employer would pay for your health insurance. How about it?

I didn't want to WASTE money each month for flipping insurance when I could save it myself and use it as needed! Be wise with your money, and you'll have it when you need it. I'm paying flipping insurance for two minors, who haven't needed a doctor in atleast two years...except the chiropractor, that I pay for myself.

The only people benefitting is those raking in the insurance premiums and being sent dividend checks.
 
How can you claim inroads when the government is forcing people to hand over their money to a private company whether they want to or not?

Forcing people to do something they don't want to do is not a victory.
 
I didn't want to WASTE money each month for flipping insurance when I could save it myself and use it as needed! Be wise with your money, and you'll have it when you need it. I'm paying flipping insurance for two minors, who haven't needed a doctor in atleast two years...except the chiropractor, that I pay for myself.

The only people benefitting is those raking in the insurance premiums and being sent dividend checks.

That's all good and well but most people are not as wise as you are. Most people aren't smart enough to do what you are capable of and we have to account for that. When tech gets to the point where we can quickly idenfity people we'll let people like you opt out on the condition that if you can't pay we simply watch as you die.

Yes, those in the insurance business are making bank. I don't really care that they are making money though. They are not the only people benefiting though.

How can you claim inroads when the government is forcing people to hand over their money to a private company whether they want to or not?

Forcing people to do something they don't want to do is not a victory.

Because people need insurance so yes it is a victory, certainly not the one many of us wanted but a victory nonetheless and you don't always get a choice in things nor should you.
 
Oh teh noes! You never met anybody with a good job who is poor! I've never met a poor doctor, lawyer, policeman, banker, fire fighter or professional athlete.
 
And when ISIS starts lobbing biological weapons into the US, you will suddenly be very grateful for those money-grabbing insurance companies.
 
And when ISIS starts lobbing biological weapons into the US, you will suddenly be very grateful for those money-grabbing insurance companies.

I could've sworn the Ebola was supposed to destroy this entire country based off of the yelling and screaming going on way back when, but I suppose our dastardly socialist freedom-denying government dipped its overreaching Big Brother fingers into our freedoms and destroyed the virus before it could take hold. :mad:

Damn our government! We should've allowed that virus to develop itself in our country naturally without interference!!! Why should I pay taxes for our government to overstep its boundaries and save other people from deadly viruses who aren't me? It's my money, dammit!!!! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Thanks alot, Rob.
Now, I have to pay hundreds of dollars a month on insurance I hardly use instead of paying for it as I needed it...in cash, at a reduced rate because they didn't have to pay a clerk to bill insurance.
I should be happy my dead-beat brother's wife and teenage daughters can go get exams and birth control...isn't that what planned parenthood is for? Isn't that what county medical services are for, based on your income?
To say that people DIDN'T have access to health care is a lie.
Guess my brother should have done better and gotten a better job so the rest of us didn't have to carry him through life.
Thanks, Rob.

Oh my, what a delightful whiner you are!

I always enjoy you bootstrappy type telling me you don't need none of that socialmalistic "health insurance" coz you gots RESOURCES.

I posted about this the last time someone (VatAss in this case) lectured us 'bout his immense financial reserves. LINK

The link I posted tells of a bootstappy Murican, someone JUST LIKE YOU, who didn't need no "nigger insurance". He had 10 grand...TEN GRAND...put aside for medical murgencies. He was PREPARED....

and then...
and then.....

He got optic nerve cancer.

As the noted philosopher Gomer Pyle once said, "Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!".....all that negotiatin' and stuff, and his TEN GRAND nest egg was gone in two months.

Unfortunately, what WASN'T gone in two months was teh cancer.

And now Mr. Bootstrappy is going blind.

Tell us, little lady, how much is in YOUR rainy day medical murgency fund?

Next up, your fantastic claim that "To say that people DIDN'T have access to health care is a lie."

Not sure where you were during the past 30 years prior to the ACA, but people can and were routinely denied access to medical care due to those pesky "pre-existing conditions".

Normally, this is where your type bring up the "but...but....emergency rooms!" trope, which is true but "emergency medicine" is a subset of "medical care in general". Please don't insult us with that common deflection.

Finally, maybe you can tell us what YOUR clever plan is when your medical condition is dire and your financial reserves are exhausted. Who should pay your bills then? Hmmmm?
 
I'm a cancer survivor, Democrat, and political campaign professional. Just to head off the "of course a Republican would say that" garbage.

There is a difference between being insured and having access to health care. (Ask the citizens of MA how Romneycare worked out for them.)

Is your network organized in such a way that you could realistically use it in the event you need it? In most cases, no.

Is your local general practitioner taking new patients or accepting some of plans under the ACA? In most cases, you're fucked by at least one horn of this dilemma.

Is a plan that adequately covers you actually "affordable" under the Affordable Care Act? In most cases, no.

Are most people at all qualified to shop for their own insurance and does the resources the government provide a satisfactory appraoch to even addressing this problem? No and no.

Due to these problems, have people stopped using the ER as a first resource rather than a last resort? As under Romneycare in MA, national ER rates have not been dented by the ACA.

What we needed was a single or all-payer program, like literally every other advanced country on the fucking planet. What we got instead was a long, degrading sloppy blowjob for Big Pharma, the insurers, and the medical device manufacturers that masquerades as "reform." (Also, the trade agenda of the administration that they rushed through congress in the least transparent way possible does a lot to gut the things actually made more effective by the ACA, i.e. Medicaid and Medicare.)
 
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