Beards? Sexy or Not?

[Gorza]

Viva Frida! Everyone wants to snog her!

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[Ishkar]

I personally prefer scruffy but, historically speaking, if beards are the thing back then then go for that perspective of sexiness instead. But that would depend on if historical accuracy is more or less important to you than the view of potential readers.

 

[rjordan]

I saw this Chanel advert a little while back, and I wondered at the time what you guys would think.

Is the girl with the moustache sexy?

Better than a van Dyke from too many facelifts, but otherwise, I don't care for facial hair on women.

I'm indifferent to men's appearance, though Paul Ryan looks like a dork trying not to look like a dork no matter what he does or doesn't do.

rj

 

[sr71plt]

Just saw Paul Ryan's beard in the newspaper. Looks good to me.

 

[JackLuis]

2350 BC is around the time that the Akkadians, particularly under Sargon the Great conquered Sumer. The Akkadians including their kings are usually shown on Cylinder seals and bas reliefs as having long flowing beards. However, some older depictions of Sumerians (the black headed people) show them as clean shaven - though what they shaved with is a bit of a mystery because this was a bronze age society and bronze would not give much of an edge.

The consederably older legend of Gilgamesh and Dumuzi says that Dumuzi a wild shepherd was rough and hairy. (note the biblical parallel Esau). Possibly that might infer that sheherds and farmers went unshaven whilst the more 'civilized' upper classes shaved?

As your story will include sex will it also involve the traditional ritual of temple prostitution?

Well that is the attraction to the Akkadian era. However I hope to show that it is not 'prostitution' but the embodiment of the worship of Inanna/Ishtar. There will be "Demi-God's and Goddesses" showing up and perhaps a Priest of Dimmuzi will go to his creator in a burst of smokeless flame. I hope to include many Mesopotamian concepts and fit them into plausible situations.

There will be red headed Elamite witches too.

 

[Gorza]

Well that is the attraction to the Akkadian era. However I hope to show that it is not 'prostitution' but the embodiment of the worship of Inanna/Ishtar. There will be "Demi-God's and Goddesses" showing up and perhaps a Priest of Dimmuzi will go to his creator in a burst of smokeless flame. I hope to include many Mesopotamian concepts and fit them into plausible situations.

There will be red headed Elamite witches too.

I'm loving it, of course.

 

[NaokoSmith]

Well that is the attraction to the Akkadian era. However I hope to show that it is not 'prostitution' but the embodiment of the worship of Inanna/Ishtar. There will be "Demi-God's and Goddesses" showing up and perhaps a Priest of Dimmuzi will go to his creator in a burst of smokeless flame. I hope to include many Mesopotamian concepts and fit them into plausible situations.

There will be red headed Elamite witches too.

OMG, I told you not to feed him the plot bunny . There will be Mesopotamian can can dancers before he's finished with it.


I recently wanted to order a Click and Collect item from John Lewis, value £29.99. But you can only get Click and Collect free on order over £30, so I searched for something in the region of 1p to make my order up. I spotted a chocolate moustache with a sad two star review. The reviewers said it was delicious dark chocolate but had melted by the time it got to them so they knocked three stars off its review.

When I went to collect my order, it was in two separate boxes. I had to have them unpacked to fit them in my shopping bag. The single chocolate moustache was in its own box, completely swathed in bubble wrap. It was in pristine condition. I took it out and held it up under my nose and the whole Click and Collect department fell about laughing. I gave it a 5* review under the title 'Worked for me.'

 

[Handley_Page]

Viva Frida! Everyone wants to snog her!

Are you sure that's a female ?
Photoshop or something ?

 

[NaokoSmith]

Viva Frida! Everyone wants to snog her!

Are you sure that's a female ?
Photoshop or something ?

HP, if you didn't exist, we would have to make you up!


You may be able to find the gorgeous Julie Taymar film Frida, which is about Frida Kahlo, on YouTube. I'm not sure it will be quite your cup of lapsang souchong. The cinematography is really lush, so give it a go.

 

[Handley_Page]

HP, if you didn't exist, we would have to make you up!


You may be able to find the gorgeous Julie Taymar film Frida, which is about Frida Kahlo, on YouTube. I'm not sure it will be quite your cup of lapsang souchong. The cinematography is really lush, so give it a go.

I had a quick look on U-tube, but ll I found was a strange trailer and a tango played by two slim women.
I think I'll pass.

 

[Gorza]

HP, if you didn't exist, we would have to make you up!


You may be able to find the gorgeous Julie Taymar film Frida, which is about Frida Kahlo, on YouTube. I'm not sure it will be quite your cup of lapsang souchong. The cinematography is really lush, so give it a go.

She was Hot to Trotsky!

 

[ishtat]

Well that is the attraction to the Akkadian era. However I hope to show that it is not 'prostitution' but the embodiment of the worship of Inanna/Ishtar. There will be "Demi-God's and Goddesses" showing up and perhaps a Priest of Dimmuzi will go to his creator in a burst of smokeless flame. I hope to include many Mesopotamian concepts and fit them into plausible situations.

There will be red headed Elamite witches too.

Look Forward to seeing this Jack. I thought I was the only one on this site fascinated by this period of history. What got me interested initially was the numerous connections between Sumerian mythology and the stories in the old testament.Then I read Anne Baring/Jules Cashford's The myth of the Goddess and some of Samuel Noah Kramer's work, and I was hooked.

You're right that a young woman's initiation at the temple was not prostitution but unfortunately the Hebrew priests later interpreted it as such and it stuck. Odd that those same writers were uncritical of the incest of their own patriarchs, Abraham, Jacob, Lot, for examples!

Interesting that you are including the Elamites even as witches as they were, at times the only clearly matriarchal as opposed to matrilineal society in the region. Gives a good foundation for powerful female characters.

 

[Tigersman]

What you call a sexy stubble I call nothing a woman wants to deal with daily. The Don Johnson look was good for one thing, chaffing the woman's chin. No woman wants to have to cake on the makeup to hide a chin with beard burn.

 

[49greg]

I saw some documentary about Egypt once, apparently there was a female Pharaoh who is depicted with a beard, and apparently wore a fake one at least for official functions because the Pharaoh was expected to have the 'official' beard.

 

[JackLuis]

OMG, I told you not to feed him the plot bunny . There will be Mesopotamian can can dancers before he's finished with it.


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Really Naoko!
The Can Can isn't really appropriate in this time frame.

Keria, the lead character will dance before her new Lord when she accepts the diadem of concubinage, but it is more of a Belly dancer performance. Mesopotamian music is more drums, chimes, and stringed instruments. I have been wondering about musical scores in that era and if they used a seven step scale, or were penatonic? I did see a article that said the they had musical scores and there was a lady who reconstructed a song and sang it in Akkaddian on Youtube.

One difficult problem is that modern English (American) is so rooted in Greek and Latin that it is difficult to phrase things. I have decided that I'd just let that slide though.

Yes there will be strong female characters, which is sort of the point of the whole story.

 

[beachbum1958]

I saw some documentary about Egypt once, apparently there was a female Pharaoh who is depicted with a beard, and apparently wore a fake one at least for official functions because the Pharaoh was expected to have the 'official' beard.

I think you're talking about Hatshepsut? I once had a tour around her temple at Deir el Bahari on the West Bank of the Nile, and the bloke from the Giza Plateau Conservation team mentioned something about her having to wear a symbolic beard to prove she was the Pharoah, not just a Regent Queen - apparently she even ordered all portraits and depictions of her to show her as a male, complete with Pharonic beard.

 

[Saxon_Hart]

Call me a king. I can grow a beard sitting at a red-light.

I am your polar opposite. I can shave on Sunday and sport a 5 O'clock shadow from Tuesday til thursday, then it's stubble til Sunday. My brother however can shave every fifteen minutes and still be Billy Gibbons. But again, I have a full head of hair while his is all shiny.

 

[Sammael Bard]

All three look like refugees from The Living Dead. Somebody needs to feed them.

Exactly.

Viva Frida! Everyone wants to snog her!

http://www.jaukudesign.com/images/pics/mustache_text/frda.jpg

Sorry, dude, not everyone would like to snog "her". It reminded me of Ryan Gage from The Hobbit, whose asshole of a character is still fresh in my memory.

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[NaokoSmith]

She was Hot to Trotsky!

Really Naoko!
The Can Can isn't really appropriate in this time frame.

Keria, the lead character will dance before her new Lord when she accepts the diadem of concubinage, but it is more of a Belly dancer performance....

Aghhhhhhh!!!!
LOL

 

[JackLuis]

Aghhhhhhh!!!!
LOL

Don't worry Naoko, Keria is a modern Nymph of the Harem of Heaven, know how to read and do her sums and understands fractional banking. Somebody has to keep her young Lord in order. He still counts on his fingers!

 

[NaokoSmith]

Don't worry Naoko, Keria is a modern Nymph of the Harem of Heaven, know how to read and do her sums and understands fractional banking. Somebody has to keep her young Lord in order. He still counts on his fingers!

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I love his plot bunnies! even though for brief periods I sometimes edit for him and have the job of caging the little beasts. Grrrrr - back, back - get back, you bunnies!

 

[JackLuis]

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I love his plot bunnies! even though for brief periods I sometimes edit for him and have the job of caging the little beasts. Grrrrr - back, back - get back, you bunnies!

Speaking of which....

 

[TxRad]

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I love his plot bunnies! even though for brief periods I sometimes edit for him and have the job of caging the little beasts. Grrrrr - back, back - get back, you bunnies!

I have a long handled fishing net you can borrow.