half a million UK citizens vote to ban Trump

[gotsnowgotslush]

half a million UK citizens vote to ban Trump


Half a million signatures on the petition to ban Trump


A petition launched in response became the most signed currently hosted on the Parliament website, with just over half a million signatures as of 5am this morning.

Accepting the endorsement of the New England Police Benevolent Association, a local police union representing more than 4,000 officials, Trump issued his latest legally-murky commandment on Thursday night.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a6768856.html


Meanwhile, in the USA, a group of policemen in New Hampshire endorse Trump for a nomination.


I watched a video clip, of the supporters of Trump's nomination.
The majority consists of overfed old white men.

There are a few token women and minorities mixed in.
The New England Police Benevolent Association is overwhelmingly white and male.
The police organization has been overwhelmingly white and male.
What other profession supports the white male ethos better than a position of authority, force and guns ?

It's the ultimate in an example of a macho Old Boy's club.

The same club that has favored the Right Wing since...
was there ever a time, when the police did not favor the ruling class, and the ruling powers ?

Here, is to all of the times a white male policeman's baton smashed the face of an American Left wing protester! /end gsgs sarcasm

 

[phrodeau]

There are plenty of old white men who don't endorse Trump. Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Lindsay Graham, John Kasich and Rick Santorum for example.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Peggy Noonan just made the point, that the politicians seeking to become president, do not give voice to the concerns of some Republican voters.

According to Peggy Noonan, Trump is filling the void, between what has been felt by Republican voters, and issues that have not been addressed by leading Republican figures that are hoping to win over all segments of the population.

For goodness sake! The election promises from Republicans were more jobs, less taxes, and a better life with more economic security.

It is Obama that did the work to get these things for the American people.
(Despite being blocked and fought against, every step of the way, by Republicans.)

The Republicans spent their time fighting for corporations, fighting women's rights, denying people health care, taking food out of the mouths of poverty stricken children, and denying unemployment benefits.

What the Right Wing has done, is a very good job of sleight of hand.
The Right Wing politicians support every need and want of corporate America, and fight people who work for a living. And yet, Republican voters are convinced that immigrants, minorities, and women who need health care are to blame for their distress.

gsgs comment-

Trump is scraping waste from the floor of the horse barn, carting it to their dinner tables, and filling their dinner plates with it. He tells them to their faces that what is on their plates is steak, bread, and butter. With bacon! And they eat it up.

The people who support Trump, are in such a trance, or are in such need, that they refuse to see what the reality is, of what they are consuming ?

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Peggy Noonan's article


"...a longtime GOP operative underlined her comments on infrastructure, but from a different angle: “Trump intuits that the Republican base loves this country and yearns for an American restoration. The GOP once was a party of industry—bricks and steel—and Trump, the builder, connects with that narrative.”

Some Trump anomalies that have to do with the tropes people use to categorize others:

He was born to wealth and went to Wharton, yet gives off a working-class vibe his supporters admire. He’s like Broderick Crawford in “Born Yesterday”: He comes across as self-made. In spite of his wealth he never made himself smooth, polite. He’s like someone you know. This is part of his power.

His father, a buyer and builder of real estate, was wired into New York’s Democratic machine and its grubby deal making. Donald knew the machine and its players and went on to give political donations based on power, not party. Yet his supporters experience him as outside the system, unsullied by it. He’s a practical man who did what practical men have to do.

He never served in the military yet connects with grunts. He has lived a life of the most rarefied material splendor—gold gilt, penthouse suites—and made the high life part of his brand. Yet he doesn’t come across as snooty or fancy—he’s a regular guy. A glitzy Manhattan billionaire is doing well with evangelicals. That’s a first.

His rise is not due to his supporters’ anger at government. It is a gesture of contempt for government, for the men and women in Congress, the White House, the agencies. It is precisely because people have lost their awe for the presidency that they imagine Mr. Trump as a viable president. American political establishment, take note: In the past 20 years you have turned America into a nation a third of whose people would make Donald Trump their president. Look on your wonders and despair.

Mr. Trump’s supporters like that he doesn’t in the least fear the press, doesn’t get the dart-eyed, anxious look candidates get. He treats reporters with courtesy until he feels they’re out of line, at which point he calls them stupid, and not because his supporters have any animus for Mr. McCain. They just saw it as more proof Mr. Trump will take the bark off anyone.

They’re not nihilists, they’re patriots, and don’t experience themselves as off on a toot but pragmatic in a way the establishment is not. The country is in crisis, we can’t keep doing more of the same. “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.” We have to do something different. He’s different. If it doesn’t work we’ll fire him.



Trump’s power is not name ID. He didn’t make his name in this cycle or the last, he’s been around 35 years. He’s made an impression.

His ideological incoherence will not hurt him. His core supporters don’t prize him for his intellectual consistency. He has called himself pro-choice but so are some of his supporters, and no one sees him as a ponderer of great moral issues. In the past he has described himself as “quite liberal” on health care. That won’t hurt either. An untold story right now is that everyone was “right” about health care. The Republicans were right that ObamaCare would not and will never work. Democrats—though they haven’t noticed because they’re so busy clinging to and defending ObamaCare—were right that America would support national health care, but not as they devised it. We’ll get out of ObamaCare by expanding Medicare.

Most of America, after the trauma of the past five years, won’t mind.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-voters-see-in-donald-trump-1438301641


The people that support Trump, are the same people that are huge fans of Sarah Palin ?


Arrrggghhh! He is a liar, a fake, an ignoramus, a clown, a buffoon, an ego on legs, a fabulist, a narcissist, a grifter.

He cannot deliver anything, but more horse barn waste and hot air.


Just ask the people who looked to get an honest deal from him in real life, and ended up trading something for nothing from Trump. They were forced to take the issues to court.

Trump's answer to his victims ? Suckers ! I have become wealthy and famous because of trusting and hopeful people like you.

The system is rigged. Too bad for you!

(As if lawyers, money and interdependent alliances and agreements, have nothing to do with anything. Trump has made it his business to hire people who have knowledge about these things, for all of his life. He is the corporation.)

 

[Boxlicker101]

There are plenty of old white men who don't endorse Trump. Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Lindsay Graham, John Kasich and Rick Santorum for example.

Don't forget Bernie Sanders and Bill Clinton.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Peggy Noonan just made the point, that the politicians seeking to become president, do not give voice to the concerns of some Republican voters.

According to Peggy Noonan, Trump is filling the void, between what has been felt by Republican voters, and issues that have not been addressed by leading Republican figures that are hoping to win over all segments of the population.

The way to get places in politics is to get in front of a popular issue. For Donald Trump that issue is immigration. A lot of the opposition to immigration is ethnocentric. Lots of white folks do not like people who look and sound differently from them. They dislike the sight and sound of foreign languages.

Nevertheless, immigration is an economic issue. Immigrants compete for jobs and lower wages.

 

[phrodeau]

Don't forget Bernie Sanders and Bill Clinton.

Sure, and that Boxlicker101 guy.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The way to get places in politics is to get in front of a popular issue. For Donald Trump that issue is immigration. A lot of the opposition to immigration is ethnocentric. Lots of white folks do not like people who look and sound differently from them. They dislike the sight and sound of foreign languages.

Nevertheless, immigration is an economic issue. Immigrants compete for jobs and lower wages.

Immigration CAN lower wages if low skilled labour in large amounts are brought in. Immigration DOES NOT lower wages if skilled people are brought in. The idea is to appear open to immigration and cherry pick the best. Even some tiny market stall guy in the 3rd world will probably do what he knows best and open a convenience store. Paying small business taxes and adding to municipal tax base. Plus have 4 kids, 2 of whom will open businesses.

Not just white folk are xenophobic. We just have a more recent history of being colonial conquerors. We don't actually want colonial types in our prospective home countries. And some of them look at us as Imperialist conquerors. Have a look at Japan's immigration numbers. They have huge pop. and may not need immigration, depending on pop. age. But they don't like to let anyone in. Far smaller percentage of ethnic groups than found in US or Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan

An old German guy I know was an orphan refugee after WW2 and was sent to live in Brazil with relatives. He relates stories of being discriminated against. Is sure he was held back in a spelling bee because he was white. He hates blacks because of his upbringing. Now mind you his people were shovelling people they did not like into ovens, previously. So he got of light on the prejudice end of the stick. I doubt a family of blacks in a white town would have faired better in 1948.

 

[Iceprincess12]

Didn't realize the Brits counted for anything.

They do know tea and murder mysteries though, guess that makes them better than Canadians.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

so what .... like you people can even afford to purchase his book

 

[DeYaKen]

Didn't realize the Brits counted for anything.

They do know tea and murder mysteries though, guess that makes them better than Canadians.

Well, you may be right, Perhaps we had better remember that the next time you get involved in a war. I seem to remember the last one you fought without us didn't go too well. Viet Nam, wasn't it?

 

[RawHumor]

Half a million signatures? In a country that has a population of under 70 million?

How many of them are registered democrats from Illinois?

 

[DeYaKen]

Half a million signatures? In a country that has a population of under 70 million?

How many of them are registered democrats from Illinois?

Only just over 60 million at present.

Since It is a government petition site you have to have a UK address to vote.

The score is about 600,000 now and it hasn't been going a week yet. This is the highest number of signatures for an online petition, meaning that people feel more strongly about keeping Trump out than they did about preventing other radical racists and religious activists from coming here.

The simple fact is we have enough hatred here, we don't need to import it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Sure, and that Boxlicker101 guy.

I don't support anybody yet, and probably won't, judging from the candidates available. In November, I will probably vote for the major party candidate I consider the least bad. Or I might vote for the Libertarian candidate, because I can identify best with him or her. Or I might write in my own name or "None of the Above," just to show contempt for the major party candidates.

I really expect the Dems and the GOP to nominate the worst pair of candidates since I first voted in 1960.