Incest Advice

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

Hi all,
For those of you who are into real life incest, I would like to ask you for some advice. I have recently started the 'Language of Lust" and "Text the Romance Back" programs and I'm wondering if they would work for incestous situations. I'm 20 and have a crush on my aunt, who is 55. At her age, she's very beautiful and very sexy (pretty face, not a lot of wrinkles, big breasts, and an amazing ass). She's also a very sweet women who does a lot for others and is very nice to me all the time. She doesn't like sex, most likely because she hasn't had a man that was very interested in her sexual needs. I want to help her discover what turns her on and feels amazing to her in bed so I can do these things for her. She's very conservative and has been conditioned by society and church against sex outside of marriage, let alone incest. I know it would greatly benefit her if she let me improve her sex life, it's just a matter of breaking through the barriers and getting her to want to open up to me. I've been studying the programs for the past couple weeks and can see how they'd work for getting out of the friendzone, or wooing a girl you just met. For those of you who are familiar with these programs, do you think the techniques would work in my situation? And should I tailor my approach to start out with the less obvious ones to get her comfortable and get her to open up to me, then gradually try to turn the relationship in a more intimate direction? I wanted to post my story and my questions on the website, but felt more comfortable doing so here due to the taboo nature of my situation. Ive also been asking one of my cousins for feedback and although she's very supportive, she's not very knowledgeable on this particular matter. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks for reading!

 

[atariblue]

I'm not familiar with those programs, so I'm just gonna go on a whim here. Compliment her casually, remark how pretty she is in that dress, maybe she just got her hair done? See how she reacts. If you're not close build up the relationship between you and her until you feel comfortable talking about her love/sex life. Judge her reactions to these questions and then you can talk about your desires, what each of you and her are looking for on a partner. If she reciprocated in a positive way to this then you lead your way into your feelings for her.

Hope that works. Good luck.

 

[TomPal]

Just into porn

 

[PegMeKatePlease]

You don't say if there is an uncle in the picture, that would complicate things.

Or a 'special friend' who is of the same gender as your aunt?

I'm curious though. If you've talked to a female cousin about this, why aren't you thinking of seducing her? Seems as if you've already laid out the groundwork and she may be more receptive.

Pamphlets, 'sure to get her into your bed' guides etc. have been around as long as there have been printed material. Sort of a 'grain of salt' situation I would think.

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

You don't say if there is an uncle in the picture, that would complicate things.

Or a 'special friend' who is of the same gender as your aunt?

I'm curious though. If you've talked to a female cousin about this, why aren't you thinking of seducing her? Seems as if you've already laid out the groundwork and she may be more receptive.

Pamphlets, 'sure to get her into your bed' guides etc. have been around as long as there have been printed material. Sort of a 'grain of salt' situation I would think.

It would be nice to have a friend like that. I'm assuming by special friend, is there a mutual friend who we're both close to that could help me seduce her? And it's kind of complicated with the uncle thing. Not that their relationship is complicated, there's just complicated things involved. They're divorced, I live with him and his new wife and she has been, for the most part, staying with her sister, whom I visit once in awhile. I've been trying to get my cousin to hep me come up with ideas, but she can't think of anything. It's still nice to talk to her because she's cool about it and the taboo of the situation makes it hard to find people that will listen and try to help me. I'm still trying to learn how to woo women and I'm trying to see if there's anything I can do to warm her up to the idea so I can slowly lead her into it. The idea is scary to me, because of the taboo. In her mind, the world around her says she can't be with a man outside of marriage, and probably more so that she can't be with a relative. But I have a feeling that she has a lot of suppressed sexual desires that she has been trained to think are slurry and wrong. I ome heard my uncle tell his friend that he's had plenty of nights where they'd go to bed and she would refuse to have sex with him. I think this is because he didn't make the experience enjoyable for her. One question, when you commented on my speaking with my cousin about this, who was the "her" referring to when you said, "why aren't you thinking of seducing her? ... and she may be more receptive." Were you still referring to my auntie or were you suggesting that I may have better luck with my cousin?

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

I'm not familiar with those programs, so I'm just gonna go on a whim here. Compliment her casually, remark how pretty she is in that dress, maybe she just got her hair done? See how she reacts. If you're not close build up the relationship between you and her until you feel comfortable talking about her love/sex life. Judge her reactions to these questions and then you can talk about your desires, what each of you and her are looking for on a partner. If she reciprocated in a positive way to this then you lead your way into your feelings for her.

Hope that works. Good luck.

Thanks for the advice! It makes a lot of sense to me, and feels the most comfortable when I think about it, to try to build up the intimacy in a way that would seem more natural to her at first so she would be less suspicious until I can find out how to turn her on.

 

[PegMeKatePlease]

It would be nice to have a friend like that. I'm assuming by special friend, is there a mutual friend who we're both close to that could help me seduce her?

No, I meant that your aunt might have a female friend with whom she has a 'special' relationship with and isn't wanting the world to know about.

And it's kind of complicated with the uncle thing. Not that their relationship is complicated, there's just complicated things involved. They're divorced, I live with him and his new wife and she has been, for the most part, staying with her sister, whom I visit once in awhile.

Let me put it this way. Don't shit where you eat. You live with the ex-husband of the aunt? This is sounding as if you really want an exciting life. At this point I'd be looking for another place to live before I made any moves on his ex-wife.

I've been trying to get my cousin to hep me come up with ideas, but she can't think of anything. It's still nice to talk to her because she's cool about it and the taboo of the situation makes it hard to find people that will listen and try to help me.

Sigh. Your cousin is cool about the taboo aspect of this? Sounds like she's on the same wavelength maybe? Maybe your cousin wants to check this taboo out further?

I'm still trying to learn how to woo women and I'm trying to see if there's anything I can do to warm her up to the idea so I can slowly lead her into it. The idea is scary to me, because of the taboo.

Substitute Aunt here in your mind with Cousin. Trial run?

In her mind, the world around her says she can't be with a man outside of marriage, and probably more so that she can't be with a relative. But I have a feeling that she has a lot of suppressed sexual desires that she has been trained to think are slurry and wrong.

Your aunt has at least thirty years of cultural assimilation over you in regards your lifetimes. There are two very strong bars you've brought up here and I'm going to guess both have strong religious bases.

I ome heard my uncle tell his friend that he's had plenty of nights where they'd go to bed and she would refuse to have sex with him. I think this is because he didn't make the experience enjoyable for her.

There may be a lot of reasons why people don't have sex with one another and your Uncle may not be forthcoming as to why.

One question, when you commented on my speaking with my cousin about this, who was the "her" referring to when you said, "why aren't you thinking of seducing her? ... and she may be more receptive." Were you still referring to my auntie or were you suggesting that I may have better luck with my cousin?

You got it. She's in a conversation with you about having incestuous sex and she's cool with it using your words. I'd say you would have a lot better luck with her! And less chance of your family getting into a horrible bad no good situation when, not if, things blow up if you try to make a move on your aunt.

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

Yeah, its kind of complicated. I do have a thing for my cousin, so I may try that out at some point. Her sister also, but she is happily married with a child so I'm hesitant with that. It just worked out that way as far as the living arrangements go. It was easier for me since I had a room and everything and got a job down the street from my house. There was a time when we didn't talk for a few months, but we made up. I may have to move at some point, depending on what happens in the future.

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

I don't know about her having a "special friend." I doubt it, but I guess it could be possible. And I'm sure the marital problems leading up to the divorce also influenced my aunt to refuse to do it, the point I mentioned about her not being satisfied just seemed to be the easiest one to work with.I'm not sure how to explain it, but it's like I was getting some kind of a vibe from them that felt like that.

 

[langleyr28]

I'm in a 14 year relationship with my sister. there was no seducing, it was two people of like mind and feelings. you can be supportive of her, but don't expect her to change 55 years of living and thinking. there is no such thing as coming around to your way of thinking. the person must have a proclivity for it to work. if you are changing everything in that persons way of thinking and living, can you expect them to be happy? I would leave it be.

 

[bunny4med]

leave it at the crush stage.

 

[PegMeKatePlease]

Yeah, its kind of complicated. I do have a thing for my cousin, so I may try that out at some point. Her sister also, but she is happily married with a child so I'm hesitant with that.

Seems like the better route if this is what you (and your cousin) have a desire to do.

The sister thing? Awesome fantasy but if she's happily married probably not gonna happen.

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

Yeah, I think I'll just wait it out as long as possible before I lay all my cards on the table. It makes the most sense to try all the non-flirtatious techniques I'm reading up on first and see how they work out. Basically, just creating an intimate relationship where she feels comfortable with me. The ones that are more flirtatious are dependant on the other ones working, so I can move step by step and gauge her responses. If everything goes well, I should be able to start revealing my feelings for her. Otherwise, we'll just have a closer relationship that's more "normal." The key is, the techniques that are more for getting the girl to want you are dependant on some attraction, even if it's suppresed. So, say she has a secret crush on me, I can get her to be comfortable with her feelings. I need the feelings to work with, though. My younger cousin is open, so that may be well worth a shot. Open to my aunt and I being in a relationship, or whatever could happen. But the only way to accomplish anything, I think, would be to take it one step at a time and keep plugging away at it till something comes out of it. And ad for the sister fantasy, I think that would be dependent on me having sexual superpowers where women would be unable to resist me. So that would be pretty far fetched.

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

Update

Hey all, just to let everyone know, we're moving in the right direction. A small step, but a step nonetheless. I flirted with her a little bit last night and she was very warm towards me and rubbed my back for a few seconds while I was flirting with her. It was innocent flirting and completely unintentional, but I could tell she liked it. Not to say that I turned her on, just that I made glow.

 

[nowat41]

Wow this is so beautiful.
I really look forward for the sweet and beautiful affair you are going to have. The ages are so sweet. A 20 year boy and a 55 year woman. You will look so sweet.
Good luck dear. Let's hope a good and long lasting romance between you two.

 

[CaptainBigSchmitty]

Thank you, always nice to find support! & I think she may be a little older than 55, but she looks younger than 50. I want to still be doing romantic things for her in 20 years even if she stops wanting to get frisky.

 

[StrongMaster7]

My two cents.

This brings to mind a time when I was younger (but legal!) and was consumed by horniness and lust. One object of my attention was a divorced aunt. Another was a Swedish flight attendant neighbor.

You must understand that although you are focused on this woman and see her in a highly sexual light, she may not see you in this way at all. It can be easy to mistake friendliness and platonic love for sexual attraction. Sometimes there can be physical admiration, but that may not translate AT ALL into actionable sexual attraction!

If you must you can try the gentle, subtle, hints and look for positive response. But you should always leave yourself an "out" so that if she suddenly becomes shocked, hurt, angered, or confused, you can back-pedal and say she mistook your "innocent comments". In the "real world", many women are not highly sexualized. Society, religion, upbringing and the times and families they were brought up in have created huge, strong walls of taboo. And unlike porn films, these walls will not crumble with a glass of wine and a clever come-on.

Always consider the risk/reward balance. Think of the worst thing that could happen. If she is offended and cuts off all communication with you forever and the whole family finds out and the word gets out into the community and everyone knows that you tried and failed to have sex with her, can you live with that? Imagine the biggest scandal, public exposure, embarrassment, etc. And don't forget the internet. Imagine having your reputation smeared with this online. Still ok with it?

And also consider the reward side. You may be imagining a wonderful sexual journey with this woman that will last a long time and be fun and fulfilling and on your terms. What if it's not as wonderful as you imagine? Or what if emotions like jealousy and possessiveness get involved? What happens when one of you wants to move on and the other doesn't? This isn't some gal at a bar that you can dump easily. This is a family member.

Sometime fantasies are best left as fantasies. But, it's your life. You are young. That is the time to be bold and experiment (safely). But there is something to the "don't shit where you eat" logic. Maybe you can find another older lady to whom you are not related. Maybe that would be a better place to start.


p.s. I dated a girl (of legal age!) and one summer she spent a few weeks with her grandmother and had a little romance with an older male "family friend". I was jealous when I found out and blew the whistle on him. I wrote the grandmother and told her everything. This family friend was a local lawyer and it caused a bit of a scandal. It affected his business and his personal life and he was no longer a "family friend". So, word can get out. Consequences can be ugly.

Good luck.