Obamacare, NOT so affordable after all !!

[Misshotndeep]

Likewise your ignorance.

Why don't you educate us and define liberalism.

Belief in the value of social and political change in order to achieve progress.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

*facepalm* Universal health care is universal healthcare. The name does not change the intent. Call a rose a rose. Weather it's Obamacare or Medicare. It's universal health coverage we are discussing. think of it as different flavors of ice cream. They are all ice cream just different colors and flavors. Still are dairy made. Still by definition ice cream.

but you used the incorrect term. obamacare is a fresh pile of steaming shit. always shit, will always be shit

 

[NeverEndingMe]

what the fuck are you smoking? political chance ... is that another term to steal from working Americans so that the lazy can live a life of luxury?

obamacare needs to be 86'd and when Trump gets in office we can end this obama welfare bullshit

Belief in the value of social and political change in order to achieve progress.

 

[Misshotndeep]

what the fuck are you smoking? political chance ... is that another term to steal from working Americans so that the lazy can live a life of luxury?

obamacare needs to be 86'd and when Trump gets in office we can end this obama welfare bullshit

That is Websters definition. Don't like it call them. lol It was a link to the page by the way.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

you realize that socialism is a mental disorder, right?

the obama political change ... was a lie. lots of people fell victim for that lie

That is Websters definition. Don't like it call them. lol It was a link to the page by the way.

 

[Misshotndeep]

PS... did you just bring up Trump??? Seriously.... LMFAO you are either joking or a candidate for a Darwin award.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

for those that voted for that obama; pumpkin, are mentally defective. are you one of those?

Trump would make a great POTUS, obama is a joke. a sorry excuse

Trump gets shit done. obama whines
Trump gets shit done ....

tell me more about this obama, this ferry tail

PS... did you just bring up Trump??? Seriously.... LMFAO you are either joking or a candidate for a Darwin award.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Here's the real issue with this nonsense (aside from insurance companies getting tons of free money): Obamneycare in no way will help or make people healthy, thus ensuring costs will continue to rise.

If the idea is for people to become healthy by having access to healthcare, why are smokers, alcoholics, drug users and the obese not forced to change their ways? All they are doing is driving up the cost for everyone else because they continue to lead unhealthy lives.

No personal responsibility, no need to change because someone else gets to pick up the tab.

Not only am I forced to hand over my money to a private company by edict of the government, I can't even get the most bang for my buck because all of the above continue on without a care in the world. Explain how any of this is supposed to keep costs down.

P.S. I only see a doctor every three or five years. It costs me and my employer $3K to insure me per year. Thus, when I do visit a doctor it costs $9K to $15K. Anyone who claims paying insurance is a good deal is living in a fantasy world.

 

[Misshotndeep]

you realize that socialism is a mental disorder, right?

the obama political change ... was a lie. lots of people fell victim for that lie

You are just spouting silly shit now. In no medical journal in the world is socialism a mental health condition. I hope you know the difference between socialism and communism too.
Plus many very democratic countries all over the world have universal heath care. Don't be dim.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

those like RobdownSouth must be forced to go on a diet ...

but President Trump will end obamacare and Rob's kind will be forced to get a job and health insurance (and pay for it on their own, not stealing money from their neighbor)

Here's the real issue with this nonsense (aside from insurance companies getting tons of free money): Obamneycare in no way will help or make people healthy, thus ensuring costs will continue to rise.

If the idea is for people to become healthy by having access to healthcare, why are smokers, alcoholics, drug users and the obese not forced to change their ways? All they are doing is driving up the cost for everyone else because they continue to lead unhealthy lives.

No personal responsibility, no need to change because someone else gets to pick up the tab.

Not only am I forced to hand over my money to a private company by edict of the government, I can't even get the most bang for my buck because all of the above continue on without a care in the world. Explain how any of this is supposed to keep costs down.

P.S. I only see a doctor every three or five years. It costs me and my employer $3K to insure me per year. Thus, when I do visit a doctor it costs $9K to $15K. Anyone who claims paying insurance is a good deal is living in a fantasy world.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

many people drive a car off a cliff, would you?

(why is it that your kind brings up 'very democratic countries all over the world have universal heath care' ?? that a stupid point

sweetie, Canada is like America in the 1950's if you compare health care to health care.

the issues is we have the obama kind overly milking the system

You are just spouting silly shit now. In no medical journal in the world is socialism a mental health condition. I hope you know the difference between socialism and communism too.
Plus many very democratic countries all over the world have universal heath care. Don't be dim.

 

[Misshotndeep]

many people drive a car off a cliff, would you?

(why is it that your kind brings up 'very democratic countries all over the world have universal heath care' ?? that a stupid point

sweetie, Canada is like America in the 1950's if you compare health care to health care.

the issues is we have the obama kind overly milking the system

Oh I agree it is a cluster fuck. You must have missed my earlier post.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Oh I agree it is a cluster fuck. You must have missed my earlier post.

yeah, I missed what you said before.

While in the end I want what most people want, good health care at a reasonable costs. Sad that our system has been hijacked by obama, lawyers, and Enron aka corporate America.

anyone with common sense knows it.

the only way to drive down costs is to put it in the free market. get government out of it. have insurance companies compete nationwide. end hospital monopolies as they are even more corrupt.

 

[Misshotndeep]

yeah, I missed what you said before.

While in the end I want what most people want, good health care at a reasonable costs. Sad that our system has been hijacked by obama, lawyers, and Enron aka corporate America.

anyone with common sense knows it.

the only way to drive down costs is to put it in the free market. get government out of it. have insurance companies compete nationwide. end hospital monopolies as they are even more corrupt.

See the problem with that plan is that insurance companies would set the rates and the lowest would be un reachable for the masses. As was the past practice. What needs to happen is that the medical system needs to stop charging 40$ for a aspirin, 120$ for stitches. The whole industry is greedy and more about profits then taking care of its patients. I understand that they need to make money but it should not be at the experience of care. Before many simply did not go to the doctors because they could not afford the bills. At least now more people are going. It's killing their budgets, but they are going. It baffles me how we are the riches country in the world and there are still people who don't have health coverage or basic needs meet.