Republicans vow to fight ISIS with all the forces necessary

Oh, Lord. I don't have to prove anything to you. I was there in 2008. And I even was here on the Literotica forum discussing of these things in 2008. I voted for Obama both times. He grabbed for the position before he had the experience to do it, and we've all suffered the consequences.

Doesn't change one iota that there's nobody better and more ready for the presidency stepping up to run for it now than Hillary Clinton.

And I don't give a shit whether you or anyone else agrees with me on that point. I have the experience in the U.S. government myself to call that one.
 
What glitzy, wild ass promises did Obama make?

Comprehensive HC reform....

Ending the wars....

GMO product labeling....

More transparency in the whitehouse and congress....

Should I go on or actually look up a list of verified quotes/lies?

There are plenty of websites with hundreds of them you can easily google. Hope and change was a fuckin' lie.

(Just like a lot of folks didn't pay attention that, at the time, he was saying he'd put more boots on the ground in Afghanistan--and he did--and what people were hearing was that he was going to withdraw troops from the region.)

“If we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home, we will end this war. You can take that to the bank.”-Obama 2007

Nothing about Afghanistan in that promise or any of the several other quotes where he essentially says the same thing....the guy just point blank lied, or was super slow to get to a semi war compromise, to get into office. Deal.

So you read through all 500 campaign promises?

I'm 100% not joking. There's NO way he knew the depths of the obstruction that he would face.

Yea....most of them were bullshit.

And his ignorance doesn't mean most of his "hope and change" wasn't a total pant load.
 
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If you're still wondering whether Ben Carson could lead as president, you're already a lost cause. What in heaven's name qualifies a neurosurgeon who can't enunciate an actual plan on anything and admits to believing crazy things to be president of the United States?

It's possible that Biden could out-president Hillary Clinton, but he's not running, is he? He also doesn't think before saying something a tenth as well as Hillary Clinton does. I'd love for someone better than her to be put up by either/any party, but it just isn't happening. I was in the U.S. government for thirty years and there's just no getting around that, in making campaign promises, no one running can/does make promises that they have any ability to back up like Hillary Clinton does, from experience--not just from offices she held and exercised, but also because she wasn't making cookies those years Bill Clinton was in office--she was on the policy team. You don't hear her making wild-ass promises for good reason. (And she basically lost to Obama when they ran against each other because he made uninformed wild-assed promises that he didn't/couldn't back up and she refused to--with the result that dumb American voter went for the glitzy promises).

And on the Bushes. Bush Sr. did a better-than-average job as president. Bush Jr. had his heart in the right place, but his mind was controlled by Cheney and Rumsfeld, to the tune of disaster. (And I can believe all that from being in the intelligence community and on the inside for all those people.)

Who would have thought an actor could have become president? Or a community leader? I want someone who has character and the strength to stand against pressure because it's the right thing to do.

Hillary is a politician, she is great at the game but will people want to follow her? As unfair as it seems she isn't very likeable. Can she stand up for what she believes if people go against her? She doesn't listen to the will of the people. This is what the government is supposed to do. It doesn't belong to them, it's our government but that isn't the way it works anymore. Does she truly believe that it's "we the people", I don't think any politician does which is why I might consider Carson. I haven't made up my mind for or against him yet.
 
and we have the obama, on its back, skirt up, and 'fighting' ISIS


obama is just a boy in a skirt

Putin, sadly Putin is schooling obama and making obama look like a bigger ignorant jackass
 
ending the wars? did you go from smoking pot to crack?





Comprehensive HC reform....

Ending the wars....

GMO product labeling....

More transparency in the whitehouse and congress....

Should I go on or actually look up a list of verified quotes/lies?

There are plenty of websites with hundreds of them you can easily google. Hope and change was a fuckin' lie.



“If we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home, we will end this war. You can take that to the bank.”-Obama 2007

Nothing about Afghanistan in that promise or any of the several other quotes where he essentially says the same thing....the guy just point blank lied, or was super slow to get to a semi war compromise, to get into office. Deal.



Yea....most of them were bullshit.

And his ignorance doesn't mean most of his "hope and change" wasn't a total pant load.
 
You must be joking.

He said he could unite us. Have you noticed how that worked out? Better yet, how easy has it been for him to do anything we wanted to do--after spinning out the "lets just get along" strategies long after he should have seen the writing on the wall? I'm not saying it's his fault necessary work hasn't been done--that's on the Republican-controlled Congress that didn't even come up with solutions of their own. I'm saying he promised what he knew he couldn't deliver--or would have known if he'd waited until he actually had the preparation to do the job. He knew what the opposition would be like--and if he didn't, he wasn't ready for the job yet.

The specific one that really steamed me, since it was in my expertise box, was in saying he'd go anywhere and talk to any foreign entity on anything. Hillary Clinton refused to say that. That don't work; he found that out; and he changed his tune--after he was elected and saw what the world inside the White House and international affairs was really like--something Hillary Clinton knew all too well, as she wasn't baking cookies the eight years she lived in the White House and, even on the domestic issues, she had the scars to show for how being the executive was really going to work in Washington through the health care wars she fought then.

If you didn't see that Obama was promising pie in the sky in the Dem primary that he didn't deliver and that Hillary Clinton wasn't, you weren't paying attention.

(Just like a lot of folks didn't pay attention that, at the time, he was saying he'd put more boots on the ground in Afghanistan--and he did--and what people were hearing was that he was going to withdraw troops from the region.)

I do not specifically remember the second one. I don't think anyone knew how hard the wall was going to be that he hit, except the people that were in on the building plans.
 
how could you vote for that obama?

drugs?

help me understand.

Hillary, so you believe in lies and corruption. why not the leadership of Enron? oh wait, Enron has more morals



Oh, Lord. I don't have to prove anything to you. I was there in 2008. And I even was here on the Literotica forum discussing of these things in 2008. I voted for Obama both times. He grabbed for the position before he had the experience to do it, and we've all suffered the consequences.

Doesn't change one iota that there's nobody better and more ready for the presidency stepping up to run for it now than Hillary Clinton.

And I don't give a shit whether you or anyone else agrees with me on that point. I have the experience in the U.S. government myself to call that one.
 
Comprehensive HC reform....

Ending the wars....

GMO product labeling....

More transparency in the whitehouse and congress..
One I really liked, made me think about actually voting for him, was no hiring/appointing former lobbyists. That didn't last long.


Who would have thought an actor could have become president?
An actors are the perfect candidates to convince people to vote for them.
 
Rubio is just another automaton off the Republican assembly line.

He'll send in the military, but how will he pay for it?

Grandma will be eating catfood while she waits to die from poverty and disease. Just the way Republican Jesus likes it.

"Republican Jesus" - you should tradmark that.

Just think of all the memes attributable to Republican Jesus.
 
how could you vote for that obama?

drugs?

help me understand.

Hillary, so you believe in lies and corruption. why not the leadership of Enron? oh wait, Enron has more morals

Republican Jesus cries every time you vote for that obama.
 
I just flipped off CNN that was running a discussion on what the terrorists could do to make it even harder to get to them before they've run up the kill count. This is so typical of Americans' need to know everything even when it shoots them in the foot.
 
That's the point, and you're supposed to be an intellectual?:rolleyes:

There should be a sarcastic emoticon. For the pseudo-intellectuals. And the psycho/sociopaths who can't detect it. Most folk need visual facial cues or intonations of voice the detect it. We really do need a sarcastic emoticon. Eye rolling isn't bad to get point across. I think the smiley face threw him.
 
There should be a sarcastic emoticon. For the pseudo-intellectuals. And the psycho/sociopaths who can't detect it. Most folk need visual facial cues or intonations of voice the detect it. We really do need a sarcastic emoticon. Eye rolling isn't bad to get point across. I think the smiley face threw him.

Wouldn't have worked, with that asinine second sentence, indicating that there was something to run for again (not to mention that, with the Republicans running for the office, he probably would be elected a third time if he could run).
 
Wouldn't have worked, with that asinine second sentence, indicating that there was something to run for again (not to mention that, with the Republicans running for the office, he probably would be elected a third time if he could run).

As a registered Illinois voter, I would gladly return him to the Senate if he were to run. I doubt that he'll be interested but I suspect he would win handily if he chose to engage at that level.
 
There are lots of offices he could run for; there's just almost no reason why he would.
 
There should be a sarcastic emoticon. For the pseudo-intellectuals. And the psycho/sociopaths who can't detect it. Most folk need visual facial cues or intonations of voice the detect it. We really do need a sarcastic emoticon. Eye rolling isn't bad to get point across. I think the smiley face threw him.

Our Pilot has no sense of humor, he's easy to troll if you know how. :D
 
Our Pilot has no sense of humor, he's easy to troll if you know how. :D

I don't think the first part is true, and why would you be such an ass as to want to do the second part?

Don't be stupid and suggest that you posted your mishmash on voting for Obama to troll me. It's quite possible you were trolling someone else, though.
 
What glitzy, wild ass promises did Obama make?

obama is the biggest jack ass pile of shit ever!

at least with Bush, you know he was a proud American. Obama is just a boy in a skirt dancing around with lipstick drawing pretty lines in the sand

Putin schooled that cunt, obama
 
Rubio is just another automaton off the Republican assembly line.

He'll send in the military, but how will he pay for it?

Grandma will be eating catfood while she waits to die from poverty and disease. Just the way Republican Jesus likes it.


then maybe your grandma should of had a job, and not lived off welfare. I say fuck her, fuck you, and enjoy that tasty catfood
 
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