Wingnut media will not let the Republicans forget Benghazi

[gotsnowgotslush]

For the love of the light of all possible universes, in existence!

Today, FOX news is feeding the dust of a long dead corpse, to the Wingnuts


All the questions have been answered. Exhaustively.

And yet, the Wingnut media is still continuing to make accusations against Hillary Clinton, concerning Benghazi.

gsgs comment-

Misquoting Doc McCoy

It's dead, Jim.

/end gsgs comment

 

[phrodeau]

Apparently, Hillary once announced that Niger had sold yellowcake to Saddam Hussein.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Hillary's position is untenable and implicates other authority isolating her from the loop. She's either a dolt or not on the memo list.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I imagine Hillary made Obama force Biden outta the race by threatening to spill her guts about Benghazi to the committee.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hillary did pretty well under a marathon session. I wonder if they could have broken it up and questioned her for two days, but kept the sessions to 5 hours.

Here's what I took away.
1. Hillary swore Stevens in...and then never talked to him again. Under questioning, she couldn't point to one interaction between herself and Stevens. He didn't have her private email...obviously.
So she sent her ambassador (employee) into a dangerous situation...and then never checked up on him. Wow!

Do you have any idea how many ambassadors we have or how many are in dangeorus situations? Of course she didn't check up on him, she has people to do that and ultimately it looked like things were okay. (There's also the fairly obvious at thsi point fact that they were doing something shady.)

2. Hillary emailed Chelsea to let her know it was an AQ-style group, but then pushed the video story. Yeah,okay...poliitcs...but then why lie to the families of the victims?

Without a mind reader we don't know that was a lie. It certainly didn't seem to be based on the intelligence then or even now if we're really interested in honesty which I know we're not.

3. 900+ emails on Libya in 2011. 67 in 2012...what? It's not proof of anything nefarious...but just weird...

Without knowing a lot of thigns we don't know that's not even weird. Anybody with email can tell you real quick that two or three people who for whatever reason don't feel like picking up the phone can rack up a dozen or so emails that say nothing.

4. Why didn't the State Department ask for Military Assistance? "No one close enough." Is Bogus. And they didn't know how long the attack would last...why not at least ask....

I'm obviously not a fan of Hillary, but Benghazi isn't the reason...it's just a symptom.

You don't need to know how long the attack will last. You need to be able to make a reasonable assessment of how long it should be and if Military Assistance is even really a good idea.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's because people who believe in facts aren't often swayed by utter horse crap. As I've stated before it doesn't appear she lied, it appears she was classic Clinton and parsed her words very carefully to the public and thus far I haven't seen these emails to her family but there is a difference between the "real" story and the official story fed to the press in everything as well there should be.

Second the supposed lie did her relatively little good all things considered.

But go on with your full on stupid, it's only hurting you.

 

[Boxlicker101]

That's because people who believe in facts aren't often swayed by utter horse crap. As I've stated before it doesn't appear she lied, it appears she was classic Clinton and parsed her words very carefully to the public and thus far I haven't seen these emails to her family but there is a difference between the "real" story and the official story fed to the press in everything as well there should be.

Second the supposed lie did her relatively little good all things considered.

But go on with your full on stupid, it's only hurting you.

The lie didn't do her any particular good at the time, but it helped Obama get reelected. One of his major boasts was something like "Al-Qaida is beaten" and the truth would have proven otherwise.

Anybody who studied the event, and this has been described hundreds of times on this forum, knew it involved military planning and heavy weapons, not an unruly mob.

 

[Boxlicker101]

For the love of the light of all possible universes, in existence!

Today, FOX news is feeding the dust of a long dead corpse, to the Wingnuts


All the questions have been answered. Exhaustively.

And yet, the Wingnut media is still continuing to make accusations against Hillary Clinton, concerning Benghazi.

gsgs comment-

Misquoting Doc McCoy

It's dead, Jim.

/end gsgs comment

This is not an event that should be forgotten, any more than 9-11 or Pearl Harbor should be forgotten.

The questions have been answered, but many of them were answered with lies or by Hilly waving her arms about and asking "Who cares?"

 

[sr71plt]

The questions have been answered, but many of them were answered with lies or by Hilly waving her arms about and asking "Who cares?"

Apparently you didn't pay much attention to the actual testimony (what a surprise! ). At one point Hillary said she cared more than all of those interrogating her did together. And I think she's right. What her interrogators care about is a witch hunt connected to partisan politics and elections, not anything connected to the Benghazi issue. They are all well-informed enough to not be so naive about what happened at Benghazi, why, and what could have been done to prevent it (not much--and certainly not Clinton or State, which weren't given the full information on why the Benghazi consulate was a high-level target).

 

[Sean Renaud]

The lie didn't do her any particular good at the time, but it helped Obama get reelected. One of his major boasts was something like "Al-Qaida is beaten" and the truth would have proven otherwise.

Anybody who studied the event, and this has been described hundreds of times on this forum, knew it involved military planning and heavy weapons, not an unruly mob.

Without a time machine we don't know if it really helped Obama get elected or not but Al-Qaeda was beaten. One attack would not prove otherwise.

Military planning doesn't mean it wasn't an unruly mob. You pretend like these things are separate which I assume just means you are REALLY bad at making plans. If I were in a terrorist group I would have all sorts of plans that say "if X happens do Y it's good" I believe the technical term is "attacks of opportunity" which again this STILL looks like and now is being claimed by at least one of the people who was involved. But of course they want Hillary to be president.

This is not an event that should be forgotten, any more than 9-11 or Pearl Harbor should be forgotten.

The questions have been answered, but many of them were answered with lies or by Hilly waving her arms about and asking "Who cares?"

Both of those events really should be forgotten and the former really is. It's a historical note like "Remember the Alamo" but the reason we're jerks to Mexico is because we're jerks to Mexico, racist and honestly most of it is more about us not giving a shit than any intentional malice. We're cool with the Japanese now and and. . .oh wait we have not forgetting 9/11 to thank for Gitmo STILL being open, for Obama reading our emails and all the other travesties and lost freedoms that came with it.

The questions were answered and you believe they were answered with lies. I don't. But lets say your right. This is a combination of two things and you lose in both. The first is the court of law and it's not what you know it's what you can prove. And all these years later you can't prove she lied. So complete loss. The second (and your true goal) is to win the White House which is about the court of public opinion. Her numbers got a bump from this bullshit so even if you win THIS doesn't appear to be the silver bullet.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Apparently you didn't pay much attention to the actual testimony (what a surprise! ). At one point Hillary said she cared more than all of those interrogating her did together. And I think she's right. What her interrogators care about is a witch hunt connected to partisan politics and elections, not anything connected to the Benghazi issue. They are all well-informed enough to not be so naive about what happened at Benghazi, why, and what could have been done to prevent it (not much--and certainly not Clinton or State, which weren't given the full information on why the Benghazi consulate was a high-level target).

I was not referring to the recent testimony; I was referring to what was said more than three years ago, when the event occurred. It was covered up then by lies, and I'm sure you've heard them, so I won't bother repeating them.

I don't believe a word Hillary says. She probably does tell the truth sometimes, but seldom enough you can never accept anything at face value. I would not call this a witch hunt. Blunders and lies by high-ranking gov. officials should be exposed, and that's what was happening here.

Whatever the reason the consulate was a target, State should have known about it and should have reacted to the pleas of the ambassador. Other Western nations did, and had removed their consular staffs for their own protection. The US could have done the same and/or beefed up security. A platoon of Marines with machine guns can put a damper in the ardor of either a mob or trained militants.

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)
One of his major boasts was something like "Al-Qaida is beaten"

Got a link for this claim? I think it's horseshit.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/06/did-obama-declare-terrorist-threat-gone/

 

[Beco]

Apparently, Hillary once announced that Niger had sold yellowcake to Saddam Hussein.

It's just like you to use the N Word....

 

[Beco]

For the love of the light of all possible universes, in existence!

Today, FOX news is feeding the dust of a long dead corpse, to the Wingnuts


All the questions have been answered. Exhaustively.

And yet, the Wingnut media is still continuing to make accusations against Hillary Clinton, concerning Benghazi.

gsgs comment-

Misquoting Doc McCoy

It's dead, Jim.

/end gsgs comment

Yeah, lets forget Ben-Gazi.....sweep it under the rug in the name of Hillary. Christ sake...as an American, we need to know the damn truth!

 

[Boxlicker101]

Got a link for this claim? I think it's horseshit.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/06/did-obama-declare-terrorist-threat-gone/

Here you go: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-touts-al-qaeda-s-demise-32-times-benghazi-attack-0

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Here is what I took away: The GOP has tried to make the US House of Representative an arm of the RNC, and they have been successful.

That is the the definition of Big Government.

 

[sr71plt]

Here is what I took away: The GOP has tried to make the US House of Representative an arm of the RNC, and they have been successful.

That is the the definition of Big Government.

Not too successful if they are so internally fractured that they can't come up with a Speaker of the House.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Not too successful if they are so internally fractured that they can't come up with a Speaker of the House.

They last time they were this successful at annexing the HoR as an arm of the RNC they looked for a land deal that was designed to launder money and impeached a President for getting a blow job.

And PS, tell that to Speaker Ryan.

 

[sr71plt]

And PS, tell that to Speaker Ryan.

Oh? Did I miss him actually getting the job yet?

 

[phrodeau]

Here you go: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-touts-al-qaeda-s-demise-32-times-benghazi-attack-0

http://votesmart.org/public-stateme...nd-growth-plan/?search=decimated#.ViwjJ2SrT-m

President George W. Bush, 5/5/2003

Al Qaeda is on the run. That group of terrorists who attacked our country is slowly, but surely
being decimated. Right now, about half of all the top al Qaeda operatives are either jailed or dead. In either case, they're not a problem anymore. (Applause.)

 

[Boxlicker101]

http://votesmart.org/public-stateme...nd-growth-plan/?search=decimated#.ViwjJ2SrT-m

President George W. Bush, 5/5/2003

Al Qaeda is on the run. That group of terrorists who attacked our country is slowly, but surely
being decimated. Right now, about half of all the top al Qaeda operatives are either jailed or dead. In either case, they're not a problem anymore. (Applause.)

Here is the rest of what you quoted out of context:

Al Qaeda is on the run. That group of terrorists who attacked our country is slowly, but surely being decimated. Right now, about half of all the top al Qaeda operatives are either jailed or dead. In either case, they're not a problem anymore. (Applause.) And we'll stay on the hunt. To make sure America is a secure country, the al Qaeda terrorists have got to understand it doesn't matter how long it's going to take, they will be brought to justice. (Applause.)

W said the leadership of al Qaeda has been decimated and those who were dead or in prison were not a problem anymore, and that we would get the rest of the terrorists, even if it took us a long time. And he probably would have been right if Obama hadn't removed almost all US forces from the battle zone.

 

[phrodeau]

Quote:

Apparently, Obama is not the first person to make that mistake or to tell that lie, whichever it was.

The mistake is that you don't know the meaning of "decimated".

 

[Sean Renaud]

Or you know the truth. It's not a mistake or a lie. Al Qaeda has been or at least was defeated as much as an enemy with no capital ever can be. You can't really beat an idea and in teh grand scheme of things Bengazi wasn't a big deal. Any reasonable sized group of people with funding could have pulled it off.

Bush was right.
Obama was right.

You (and many others) just hate Hillary to the point of irrational behavior.

 

[about_average]

This is not an event that should be forgotten, any more than 9-11 or Pearl Harbor should be forgotten.

So you remember Adolph Dubs, Francis E. Meloy, Rodger P. Davies, Cleo A. Noel and John Gordon Mein?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not sure how that's relevant. I wish we had someone adding goddamn wiki pages cus none of those names mean shit to moi.