Human Inbreeding: Risky or not?

[MyRubiLips]

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Moderator's note: In a thread about cum swallowing in stories, the below post spawned a tangent discussion regarding incest and procreation.

The original thread may be found here:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=891006

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There is nothing more intimate than swallowing! Except maybe getting pregnant.

However, getting pregnant by a close family member is rude and unhealthy for the kid who didn't ask to be born with birth defects or other complications.

 

[georgerb]

chuckles...this is going to be interesting....`

 

[The_reluctant_wordsmith]

chuckles...this is going to be interesting....`

Oooooooooh yes, thread subscribed: check. Lemme get the popcorn.

 

[lovecraft68]

However, getting pregnant by a close family member is rude and unhealthy for the wjo didn't ask to be born with birth defects or other complications.

Not that I support family members getting each other pregnant, but you do realize you're perpetuating a myth. Birth defects from incest take generations to happen.

 

[nymph817]

However, getting pregnant by a close family member is rude and unhealthy for the wjo didn't ask to be born with birth defects or other complications.

Ditters. Glad I'm not the only one seeing this.

 

[MyRubiLips]

Not that I support family members getting each other pregnant, but you do realize you're perpetuating a myth. Birth defects from incest take generations to happen.

I would call Psychology Today a pretty reliable source. Article.

[Snipet]

A group of genetic counselors reviewed the research on the biological consequences of sex between relatives (consanguineous relationships) (here(link is external)). They found a surprisingly small increase (about 4 percent) in birth defects among the children of married cousins. Incest between first degree relatives, however, was a different story. The researchers examined four studies (including the Czech research) on the effects of first degree incest on the*health*of the offspring. Forty percent of the children were born with either autosomal recessive disorders, congenital physical malformations, or severe intellectual deficits. And another 14 percent of them had mild mental disabilities. In short, the odds that a newborn child who is the product of brother-sister or father-daughter incest will suffer an early death, a severe birth defect or some mental deficiently approaches 50 percent.

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To clarify, I don't condem adult consensual incest. I've done it. But I won't carry my father's child. (Hell, being nearly forty my child would already have an increased chance at birth defects...then to add another with whom I share 50% of my DNA???)

 

[lovecraft68]

I would call Psychology Today a pretty reliable source. Article.





To clarify, I don't condem adult consensual incest. I've done it. But I won't carry my father's child. (Hell, being nearly forty my child would already have an increased chance at birth defects...then to add another with whom I share 50% of my DNA???)

I'll go with the track record of royal families inbreeding for generations in Europe and other places in the past to keep pure bloodlines. Sure you got the occasional feeble one, but it took a long time to get there and in the meantime a lot of helathy children were born.

Psyche journals are based on researching people who often lie and are skewed towards whatever theory they really want it to uphold because its theirs. The average person writing those things has had their nose in books their entire life and wouldn't know real life if it bit them in the ass.

After all look at the westermarck theory which claims we are conditioned in the damn womb to never be attracted to siblings/parents

Now ask yourself how many cases of incest there are in the world and how many hundreds of thousands of people come here to indulge that fetish and why mom/son is an extremely popular trope in video porn these days(actors of course, but the people who watch them have that kink)

I'll help you out, so popular milf actress Jodi West who specializes in those types of scenes won an AVN award for them.

Shrinks and professors play by man's rules and "god's laws" just proving what narrow minded idiots most of them are.

So I take what see and read among real people over Professor "I need to write a paper to get my degree"

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I would call Psychology Today a pretty reliable source. Article.





To clarify, I don't condem adult consensual incest. I've done it. But I won't carry my father's child. (Hell, being nearly forty my child would already have an increased chance at birth defects...then to add another with whom I share 50% of my DNA???)

Its a pop psychology rag.

 

[MyRubiLips]

Its a pop psychology rag.

If you say so, JBJ.

 

[Hypoxia]

What is the opposite of incest? Outcest? C'est la vie!

 

[nymph817]

What is the opposite of incest? Outcest? C'est la vie!

Actually I think what you mean is that if you have sex with your inlaw it makes you an outlaw, especially in Colorado.

 

[MrHappy212]

You should always read more than one source before quoting science.

In that article you quoted those tested and reported with birth defects came from two parents who carried dormant traits in their dna...any just about anything can be called a defect. how many people do you know with two different colored eyes but are completely healthy?

as for serious medical issue type defects, well look at the dna....it is no different then two complete strangers having the same dormant traits and having a child together, that child will have a 70% chance of having those previously dormant traits become active.

do you also condone adults with down syndrome, or the traits for it, from having children?

only about 1 out of 100 children born from incest actually have any medical issues and those are because the traits literally run in the family. Chances are that same child could have been born from complete strangers and still have defects.

don't believe me? google it and try reading something not biased next time. most of you see is either For or Against, dig deep and you might be surprised, I know I was.

 

[Hypoxia]

don't believe me? google it and try reading something not biased next time. most of you see is either For or Against, dig deep and you might be surprised, I know I was.

Quite. Such defects most likely appear among 1) strangers with incompatible DNA or 2) at least several generations of inbreeding. But don't believe me. Check with professional breeders of livestock, other food animals, and pets. Us hoo-mans is animals too. We follow the same biological rules as Herefords and Alsatians.

Which reminds me of an old dog breeder up on the Mendocino coast I knew long ago. I asked him how tough the dog breeding business was. "T'ain't nothing," he said. "I let the dogs loose in the yard and they fuck. I just sit back in the porch swing, drink me some whiskey, smoke cigars, and watch'em. Not tough at all."

 

[PervOtaku]

There are a good number of health problems that stem from having two copies of a "flawed" recessive gene. What that means is that if you have a good copy of the gene and a flawed copy of the gene, the good copy will be dominant and you will not have the problem.

If two parents are healthy carriers of the flawed gene, their children have a one in four chance of inheriting two copies of the flawed gene and therefore having the health problem through their entire life.

These flawed recessive genes are fairly rare, so instances in the general public of a child ending up with the health problem are not very common. However, within a family line that does carry the gene, an incestuous pairing is far more likely to be a circumstance where both parents are carriers, putting any child at the one-in-four risk.

An incestuous couple with no flawed recessive genes between them aren't particularly at risk for an unhealthy child. At that point the only issue is the squick factor.

 

[lovetoread]

WTF?

Why is this thread here?

 

[Noor]

I'll go with the track record of royal families inbreeding for generations in Europe and other places in the past to keep pure bloodlines. Sure you got the occasional feeble one, but it took a long time to get there and in the meantime a lot of helathy children were born.

It was more than occasionally, but they had the means to hide them away.
There were also an unusual amount of "stillbirths."

 

[Noor]

Quite. Such defects most likely appear among 1) strangers with incompatible DNA or 2) at least several generations of inbreeding. But don't believe me. Check with professional breeders of livestock, other food animals, and pets. Us hoo-mans is animals too. We follow the same biological rules as Herefords and Alsatians.

True, but you know what breeders do to unhealthy livestock and pets? If you think they would be willing to admit that some of the stock has been unhealthy, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

 

[Debbie]

WTF?

Why is this thread here?

gb does not stand for garbage bin - Laurel, Manu forgot to take the trash out again.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Dippy shitheads.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

WTF?

Why is this thread here?

In order to answer the question as to why it is here, we first have to deduce where it came from originally.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/f8fc837dc76b783a3457c06817ebd9fb/tumblr_nib2tnXFZr1t40qf3o1_500.gif

The game is afoot!

 

[Que]

Before considering inbreeding it is worth noting that that Nymph817 and MrHappy212 sure seem like kissin' cousins there in Texas.

 

[Disgustipated]

WTF?

Why is this thread here?

gb does not stand for garbage bin - Laurel, Manu forgot to take the trash out again.

Garnate is the Yugo of the Lit mods. Not because she's cheap and small, because... well, ok. That IS the reason.

 

[pointless]

look at all the fucking creeps.

 

[Disgustipated]

Thank you.

 

[pointless]

in my old hometown there was a dude still driving around a yugo at least eight years ago. it was in excellent shape.

not that that has anything to do with this. you just made me think of it.

you bastard.