UK Muslims Throw Excrement At British Soldier For Wearing His Military Uniform In Pub
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Hey, busybody, you got a link to that?
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Hey, busybody, you got a link to that?
A credible link?
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A hospital employee made a stupid mistake.
Where are the Muslims in this story?
Where is the excrement?
Where is the Soldier in a Pub?
Why should Muslims be in a pub anyway? Most of them don't drink alcohol.
Soldiers, sailors and airmen have been abused when in uniform long before there were any significant numbers of Muslims in the UK. I can remember them being banned from some public houses fifty years ago.
There was usually a reason e.g. soldiers banned from a pub used by Marines because if they mixed someone always wanted to 'prove' that their service was tougher.
There are arseholes who don't respect any uniform. Arseholes don't have to be Muslim.
Where are the Muslims in this story?
Where is the excrement?
Where is the Soldier in a Pub?
Why should Muslims be in a pub anyway? Most of them don't drink alcohol.
Soldiers, sailors and airmen have been abused when in uniform long before there were any significant numbers of Muslims in the UK. I can remember them being banned from some public houses fifty years ago.
There was usually a reason e.g. soldiers banned from a pub used by Marines because if they mixed someone always wanted to 'prove' that their service was tougher.
There are arseholes who don't respect any uniform. Arseholes don't have to be Muslim.
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I think it's likely that there were refugees in the hospital, and the sight of a soldier would be a psychological trigger for them.
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Exactly this, Ogg. Except I wouldn't call it arseholes. I'd call it a healthy disrespect for a standing army in peacetime, and it's a tradition that goes back centuries. Redcoats used to be spat at in the 18th and 19th centuries, as I'm sure you know. Frankly, I find it more worrying to be living in times where love of the military is more or less a requirement - red poppy essential wear for everyone on TV and nary a white one in sight, help for heroes plugged at every sporting event, etc. Don't get me wrong - I don't hate our army or wish them ill. But distrust of the military is long-standing and healthy. Despite what the Mail and other paper-thin patriotic cheerleaders try to tell us, Britain is not, at heart, a militaristic nation.
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The story was a non-story. I've used that hospital many times but their accident and emergency department has too many drunk and drug fuelled idiots attending - like many A&E departments.
I'm sure the staff member's idea was to move the uniformed person out of the way of the arseholes but they weren't very tactful about it.
Now ALL the A&E staff, and the whole hospital are receiving vitriolic abuse. That is unnecessary because they do their best under difficult conditions.
As for red and white poppies? I think compulsory wearing of red poppies is offensive. It should be a personal choice, whether you are in public office or not.
I don't like white poppies. They have too many overtones for me of appeasement and avoiding reality. I don't see a white poppy as an alternative to a red poppy but as a political statement of views I don't accept. The red poppy is supposed to be a peaceful symbol, not a militaristic one. It should be for remembrance and for a determination to avoid unnecessary conflicts because it should remind us that war has a bloody price.
From the White Poppy website:
The White Poppy symbolises the belief that there are better ways to resolve conflicts and embodies values that reject killing fellow human beings for whatever reason.
The White Poppy movement seems to ignore the reality that there are people in the world who want to kill other people, and will continue killing if not stopped, and they are not amenable to reason.
I wouldn't insult anyone for wearing or not wearing a red poppy. I wouldn't insult anyone for wearing or not wearing a white poppy, but a white poppy makes me feel sad at the lack of understanding shown by the wearer.
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Where are the Muslims?
There aren't any in the linked story.
That makes you a liar - again.
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Yes. Hazbeen has come back as the liar he was.
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