Lincoln And Grant Rejected Swaps

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/19/us/andersonville-funeral-for-13000-civil-war/

After Ulysses Grant took command of all Union forces he stopped prisoner swaps because swaps helped the South. Plus blacks were slaves and Lincoln couldn't swap slave soldiers for free soldiers. It was his decision not to swap black prisoners.

There were few black prisoners because they didn't last long in Southern hands. Black troops had a bad habit of carrying black 'no quarter' flags into battle. Lee's men were lethal at their best and worst, and took no prisoners when they saw the black flags. AND black soldiers were notorious for murdering white prisoners. One of my kin surrendered to black troops near Appomattox Court House, and all were murdered. About a dozen white men. Florida troops, always the most dangerous, drowned their black guards.

Andersonville was no worse than any of the union prisons.

 

[ishtat]

I'm not the civil war student you are James but I believe that Southern troops not only killed black prisoners but also their white officers - punishment for cultural betrayal I suppose.

Lee is the great hero of the South but to my mind Jackson's accidental death was the greatest loss to the South. He would have sacrificed men for his objectives, but Lee, like Rommel and Patton in a later war was a great field officer - brilliant in particular battles, but not enough of an utter bastard (to his own men) to win the whole war.

Civil wars show consistent behavior. When Cromwell took Drogheda he only executed one in ten of the enlisted Irish defenders but he slaughtered all of the officers. The surviving Irish defenders were sold as white slaves in the then American colonies.

 

[Ishmael]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/19/us/andersonville-funeral-for-13000-civil-war/

After Ulysses Grant took command of all Union forces he stopped prisoner swaps because swaps helped the South. Plus blacks were slaves and Lincoln couldn't swap slave soldiers for free soldiers. It was his decision not to swap black prisoners.

There were few black prisoners because they didn't last long in Southern hands. Black troops had a bad habit of carrying black 'no quarter' flags into battle. Lee's men were lethal at their best and worst, and took no prisoners when they saw the black flags. AND black soldiers were notorious for murdering white prisoners. One of my kin surrendered to black troops near Appomattox Court House, and all were murdered. About a dozen white men. Florida troops, always the most dangerous, drowned their black guards.

Andersonville was no worse than any of the union prisons.

There is NO documented evidence of that occurring, period.

Ishmael

 

[Boxlicker101]

There is NO documented evidence of that occurring, period.

Ishmael

It's documented that Grant refused prisoner exchanges, but I don't know about the rest.

 

[Ishmael]

It's documented that Grant refused prisoner exchanges, but I don't know about the rest.

I highlighted the pertinent text.

Ishmael

 

[juttjaw]

There is NO documented evidence of that occurring, period.

Ishmael

Is there ever in any of his posts? Not being a dick, but they are all batshit crazy...

 

[Ishmael]

Is there ever in any of his posts? Not being a dick, but they are all batshit crazy...

Not all, but most times it's like standing behind a goats ass with a sieve waiting for a diamond.

Ishmael

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Not all, but most times it's like standing behind a goats ass with a sieve waiting for a diamond.

Ishmael

Heehee In college I wrote a paper about how the South won the war by losing it. The teacher, an authority of the war with numerous books published, scored it A minus. Its thesis is true.

I've studied the war for almost 55 years. I'm a ways beyond Bruce Catton and Shelby Foote and Ken Burns.

Blacks weren't worth shit as soldiers. They've never impressed real soldiers. Lincoln sold many of them, murdered a few, used some as teamsters, and filled the Provost Marshal Service with many. Its all documented in memoirs or you gotta collect all the circumstantial evidence where no witness testimony exists. Just like at a real evidentiary hearing at a court house. Real historians understand the process.

 

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