Your grandfather drove drunk at least once

[renard_ruse]

How can you support laws against drunk driving?

 

[parodyluvr75]

My grandfathers never drank and one never drove. What did I win?

 

[Hypoxia]

My grandparents smuggled booze during Prohibition. Small-scale. They drove from Canada into Michigan with gallons of wine under the Model-T Ford's seat, hidden by Grandma's dress. And Grandpa, a freight-train conductor, drove drunk as often as possible. He fed us kids beer, too. Well, it was Rainier Ale if you want details. Much better than Olympia.

 

[Everyday_Man]

My grandfathers never drank and one never drove. What did I win?

You win the: We're surprised your grandfathers got laid award.

Well done!


Edit: One of your grandpas drove ... we might have to void that prize.

 

[Noor]

Neither of mine drank alcohol.

 

[Everyday_Man]

Both mine were heavy drinkers but to their credit, they never used heroin.

 

[parodyluvr75]

My grandparents

Bootlegging as American as apple pie.


You might like this?

http://www.rodauthority.com/news/moonshine-runners-and-their-role-in-the-history-of-hot-rods/

 

[Noor]

My grandfather's company's backhoe operator was often drunk.

 

[parodyluvr75]

My grandfather's company's backhoe operator was often drunk.

Haha, I laughed out loud.

 

[Hypoxia]

"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather.

Not screaming in terror like his passengers."

 

[parodyluvr75]

"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather.

Not screaming in terror like his passengers."

A good goal.

Haha!

 

[Not Normal]

I have little doubt that both my Grandfathers drove drunk.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Everyday_Man]

I'm thinking this was just a topic to get everyone to talk about drunk driving and how often THEY do it, cause you know, I have never driven drunk.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

He was a Quaker.



Not one drop his whole life. Nice fallacy though...



I hope you're just trying to burst it.

 

[Lancecastor]

I used to date a grrl who turned out to be a drunken backho.

 

[oggbashan]

How can you support laws against drunk driving?

I drove drunk more than once.

But then I'm older than some GB people's grandfathers.

What was socially acceptable 50 years ago isn't acceptable now. If cars were on the streets after ten pm then many would be being driven by someone who had been drinking, so we all made allowances for that.

When driving drunk I would drive VERY SLOWLY and carefully, typically at twenty mph instead of my usual forty. Everyone else drove relatively slowly as well and there were few vehicles around.

I knew it was wrong, but I wasn't dangerous except to myself.

Since then traffic speeds have increased significantly. Alcohol content of beer has increased. Drinking alcohol and taking drugs is common. Fifty years ago one took drugs or drank alcohol, very rarely both, and wouldn't be in a fit state to do anything after both. Walking might be difficult; driving impossible.

Modern cars are easier to drive. Fifty years ago if one could drive a car when drunk your impaired ability would have to be greater than that needed now.

Modern drunk drivers kill. Fifty years ago that was less likely.

Modern vehicles are much faster than they were fifty years ago. Then, if a drunk driver drove off the road at twenty miles an hour he/she could climb out of the vehicle and stagger off home. Now, if a drunk driver drives off the road at 60, 70, 80 mph the car is wrecked and people are killed or injured.

Drunk driving was wrong 50 years ago. Drunk driving today can kill many people - so laws are needed.

 

[philos]

My grandfather never learned to drive

 

[Lancecastor]

Good job romanticizing drunk driving, Ogg!

Yes, drinking and driving used to be more common..... My father taught me to slow down for green lights after midnite, for example, because drunk drivers on their way home from bars were more likely not to see or stop for red lites.

And that is still good defensive driving advice in most urban downtowns.

But cars today are much safer, and today's driver is less likely to be drunk or high.

Those two facts have contributed to a HUGE reduction in road deaths per driver versus 30, 40 or 50 years ago.

The older cars were death traps, not the new ones.

I drove drunk more than once.

But then I'm older than some GB people's grandfathers.

What was socially acceptable 50 years ago isn't acceptable now. If cars were on the streets after ten pm then many would be being driven by someone who had been drinking, so we all made allowances for that.

When driving drunk I would drive VERY SLOWLY and carefully, typically at twenty mph instead of my usual forty. Everyone else drove relatively slowly as well and there were few vehicles around.

I knew it was wrong, but I wasn't dangerous except to myself.

Since then traffic speeds have increased significantly. Alcohol content of beer has increased. Drinking alcohol and taking drugs is common. Fifty years ago one took drugs or drank alcohol, very rarely both, and wouldn't be in a fit state to do anything after both. Walking might be difficult; driving impossible.

Modern cars are easier to drive. Fifty years ago if one could drive a car when drunk your impaired ability would have to be greater than that needed now.

Modern drunk drivers kill. Fifty years ago that was less likely.

Modern vehicles are much faster than they were fifty years ago. Then, if a drunk driver drove off the road at twenty miles an hour he/she could climb out of the vehicle and stagger off home. Now, if a drunk driver drives off the road at 60, 70, 80 mph the car is wrecked and people are killed or injured.

Drunk driving was wrong 50 years ago. Drunk driving today can kill many people - so laws are needed.

 

[Riles]

It isn't that 'he' did which bothers me most; it's that 'he' raised a generation to think it was okay.

Alcoholism runs through and down family trees.

 

[thør]

My grandfather never learned to drive

Never stopped mine from getting a license. I think Sears Robuck sold them mail order.

 

[Laurel]

How can you support laws against drunk driving?

My dad drove drunk all the time. With us kids in the back, often without seatbelts.

Was that supposed to make me pro-drunk driving? Because it actually did the opposite.

 

[Everyday_Man]

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[oggbashan]

Good job romanticizing drunk driving, Ogg!

Yes, drinking and driving used to be more common..... My father taught me to slow down for green lights after midnite, for example, because drunk drivers on their way home from bars were more likely not to see or stop for red lites.

And that is still good defensive driving advice in most urban downtowns.

But cars today are much safer, and today's driver is less likely to be drunk or high.

Those two facts have contributed to a HUGE reduction in road deaths per driver versus 30, 40 or 50 years ago.

The older cars were death traps, not the new ones.

Romanticizing? I was reflecting attitudes 50 years ago which regarded drunk driving with less disgust. As has been said many times "The past is a different country".

Attitudes have changed for the better. Some of it, in the UK at least, is by deliberate government propaganda, but most by changed social feelings about drunk driving. THEN - almost every country public house would be surrounded by cars and very few of the drivers would not drink. The car park of my local suburban public house would be full Friday and Saturday nights and the patrons would drive away drunk.

It was worse in the 1930s. Road Houses were built on many major roads. People drove to them to drink all evening and then drive home.

Now? Surviving rural pubs survive on food sales, not large quantities of alcohol.

I do NOT drink and drive and I haven't since I married 43 years ago. Before then I preferred to avoid driving when I had been drinking and sometimes I was the designated alcohol-free driver. But I used to drink and drive in my early twenties.

I agree that modern cars are much safer but speeds are much higher. Drunks can reach excessive speeds that would have been impossible fifty years ago.
A collision with a stationary object at 20 mph then was probably less damaging than one in a modern car at 50 mph now, even with seat belts and air bags.

In the UK, deaths per 100,000 miles driven have been dropping since the 1920s and 30s (with an increase during the blackout of WW2). The reasons are various - improved roads, better in-car safety, but most of all more skilled medical intervention after an accident.

When I visit any local restaurant I see people drinking with their meals and then driving away. Unless I have walked, or arrived by taxi, I never drink alcohol because I will be driving. But I seem to be the exception. Some groups have a designated driver. Most don't appear to have one.

The quantities of alcohol drunk with a meal exceeds almost anything I used to drink 50 years ago because the alcohol content of beer and lager is much higher, and the size of wine glasses has increased. A 'standard' wine glass now holds two or three times a wine glass of 50 years ago. A single 'large' wine glass now can hold enough alcohol to put a woman and many men way above the drink drive limit.

Most local road deaths in 2015 have been caused by drivers well above the drink drive limit. Those who drink and drive don't seem to care that they have drunk massive amounts.

If I have to drive after 10 pm I assume that I will encounter at least one drunk driver.

 

[chillywilly2]

Romanticizing? I was reflecting attitudes 50 years ago which regarded drunk driving with less disgust. As has been said many times "The past is a different country".

Attitudes have changed for the better. Some of it, in the UK at least, is by deliberate government propaganda, but most by changed social feelings about drunk driving. THEN - almost every country public house would be surrounded by cars and very few of the drivers would not drink. The car park of my local suburban public house would be full Friday and Saturday nights and the patrons would drive away drunk.

It was worse in the 1930s. Road Houses were built on many major roads. People drove to them to drink all evening and then drive home.

Now? Surviving rural pubs survive on food sales, not large quantities of alcohol.

I do NOT drink and drive and I haven't since I married 43 years ago. Before then I preferred to avoid driving when I had been drinking and sometimes I was the designated alcohol-free driver. But I used to drink and drive in my early twenties.

I agree that modern cars are much safer but speeds are much higher. Drunks can reach excessive speeds that would have been impossible fifty years ago.
A collision with a stationary object at 20 mph then was probably less damaging than one in a modern car at 50 mph now, even with seat belts and air bags.

In the UK, deaths per 100,000 miles driven have been dropping since the 1920s and 30s (with an increase during the blackout of WW2). The reasons are various - improved roads, better in-car safety, but most of all more skilled medical intervention after an accident.

When I visit any local restaurant I see people drinking with their meals and then driving away. Unless I have walked, or arrived by taxi, I never drink alcohol because I will be driving. But I seem to be the exception. Some groups have a designated driver. Most don't appear to have one.

The quantities of alcohol drunk with a meal exceeds almost anything I used to drink 50 years ago because the alcohol content of beer and lager is much higher, and the size of wine glasses has increased. A 'standard' wine glass now holds two or three times a wine glass of 50 years ago. A single 'large' wine glass now can hold enough alcohol to put a woman and many men way above the drink drive limit.

Most local road deaths in 2015 have been caused by drivers well above the drink drive limit. Those who drink and drive don't seem to care that they have drunk massive amounts.

If I have to drive after 10 pm I assume that I will encounter at least one drunk driver.

I think you are talking 80 years ago Ogg, 50 years ago was the 60's and any decent automobile would do 120 MPH