irrelevant SNP

[flyingtinopener]

Thanks to a tory majority the SNP are totally irrelevant, I can imagine Nicola Sturgeon going ballistic when she didn,t hold the balance of power she expected. Bad luck Nicola you are now no more than a noisy but irrelevant sideshow that can be ignored by all. Take Salmon and the rest of you treasons pedlars and head north, your not wanted here.

 

[Scotsman69]

The Tory majority is only 12. It won't stay 12 for five years. The Euro referendum will split them down the middle, with some going to UKIP and maybe some just resigning the whip and standing as independents. Cameron only needs to lose six and he has no majority. And with a revived Corbyn led Labour Party, and 56 SNP MPs working with Labour on many issues... frankly I wouldn't like to be in Cameron's shoes. He's toast long before 2020.

If England votes to pull out of the EU, and Scotland (and maybe Wales and Northern Ireland)vote to stay in, that will trigger a huge constitutional crisis, will pretty much guarantee Scotland becomes independent, and the end of the UK.

And where will England put the Trident base when we kick the weapons out of a free Scotland? Are the people of Cumbria, Cornwall and other places queueing up to host Europe's biggest nuclear target?

Get real pal, and begin to understand how politics works in this state.

Thanks to a tory majority the SNP are totally irrelevant, I can imagine Nicola Sturgeon going ballistic when she didn,t hold the balance of power she expected. Bad luck Nicola you are now no more than a noisy but irrelevant sideshow that can be ignored by all. Take Salmon and the rest of you treasons pedlars and head north, your not wanted here.

 

[Messier82]

I am surprised Nicola Sturgeon hasn't made big waves yet, maybe she's just biding her time. She seems like a smart cookie and I have expectations...

I do think that Corbyn leading the Labour Party could well be the last nail in their coffin; re-privatising the railways, FFS

I do agree, Cameron may have won, but it's not going to be a comfortable ride for him.

 

[Scotsman69]

It says a great deal about what the English think or care about the future of the UK, that this thread has been so quiet.

I am surprised Nicola Sturgeon hasn't made big waves yet, maybe she's just biding her time. She seems like a smart cookie and I have expectations...

I do think that Corbyn leading the Labour Party could well be the last nail in their coffin; re-privatising the railways, FFS

I do agree, Cameron may have won, but it's not going to be a comfortable ride for him.

 

[oggbashan]

It says a great deal about what the English think or care about the future of the UK, that this thread has been so quiet.

No. It shows that most of the people visiting this board don't want to know about anything beyond US concerns.

Scotland is even more irrelevant to them than the whole UK. They're probably more interested in the Spratly Islands.

 

[ishtat]

Scotland is even more irrelevant to them than the whole UK. They're probably more interested in the Spratly Islands.

Of course they are Og, the Spratley's are far more important than a bunch of hairy kneed knobs in skirts.

And even the Japs make better Scotch than the Scots these days.

More to the point, Oil prices have brought home a truth the Scots haven't realized yet - they 'll be bankrupt on day one of independence. Give 'em RBS - it might help!

 

[Scotsman69]

Irrelevant eh? And just who is forcing a Commons debate this week on Cameron's despicable cowardice re Syrian and other immigrants?

Markel and others are opening their borders. If the UK follows it will be because the SNP has forced Cameron's cowardly hand. More than a wee bit relevant, methinks?

 

[oggbashan]

There might be something called public opinion that is helping to change the debate on refugees. What was impossible a week or so ago has become imperative because of one photo.

A week is a long time in politics.

But in terms of Literotica, not just the SNP is irrelevant, but UK politics as a whole. Most people on Literotica don't give a shit what the UK does.

I might regret that, but it is true.

 

[Scotsman69]

Ach Ogg, chin up pal. I read somewhere that just under 50% of Lit members are believed to be US citizens; I have no way of knowing how accurate that is.

But just because UK nationals are a minority on Lit, does not require us to be silent on matters of concern to us, whether or not they greatly interest others.

There might be something called public opinion that is helping to change the debate on refugees. What was impossible a week or so ago has become imperative because of one photo.

A week is a long time in politics.

But in terms of Literotica, not just the SNP is irrelevant, but UK politics as a whole. Most people on Literotica don't give a shit what the UK does.

I might regret that, but it is true.

 

[JackLuis]

I for one, am interested in UK political matters. The US press is very quiet about UK politics, unless an MP shags their Nanny, or something.

I find it entertaining to hear what goes on in the UK and Europe. America tends to think it is a World Leader but I find the World seldom follows precisely. However the US press seldom reports on the degree of deviation.

Show us your deviates!

 

[ishtat]

Ach Ogg, chin up pal. I read somewhere that just under 50% of Lit members are believed to be US citizens; I have no way of knowing how accurate that is.

But just because UK nationals are a minority on Lit, does not require us to be silent on matters of concern to us, whether or not they greatly interest others.

I read somewhere that Americans were 40% of the membership with Indians second at about 12 % and Brits and Germans each about 10%

 

[Scotsman69]

The 'irrelevant' SNP....

led the charge in the Tories' first parliamentary defeat on Monday on the Parliamentary 'purdah' during the forthcoming referendum on EU membership. This followed clear breaches of the 'purdah' by the Coalition Government during the runup to the Scottish Independence referendum a year ago.

It was the first time Cameron has been defeated in the Commons; on other occasions he has backed off prior to being defeated.

As I said above, a Commons majority of 12 guarantees nothing. He will be defeated again, and again. I can't see him lasting until 2020.

 

[Scotsman69]

Aye ishtat, I remember reading the same thing.

I read somewhere that Americans were 40% of the membership with Indians second at about 12 % and Brits and Germans each about 10%

 

[Messier82]

I for one, am interested in UK political matters. The US press is very quiet about UK politics, unless an MP shags their Nanny, or something.

I find it entertaining to hear what goes on in the UK and Europe. America tends to think it is a World Leader but I find the World seldom follows precisely. However the US press seldom reports on the degree of deviation.

Show us your deviates!

Here's one
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Jeremy Corbyn. The new leader of the Labour Party (ie Left wing or Socialist, not quite like the communists but leaning left of centre). A man who wants to reprivatise our rail system, which is the mother of all money pits. A man who's first post-election-to-Party-Leadership speech was at a rally in support of rights for refugees.

A man only surpassed for public-scruffiness-by-a-leading-policitian by previous Labour-loser Michael Foot, that's him on the left, t'uther is (Spawn of Satan) Margaret Thatcher (Ronald Reagan's best mate/dominatrix).
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In US parlance, our main opposition party to the one in government, not content with getting royally butt-fucked by a resurgent Scottish Nationalist Party, has now decided to fuck itself in the ass.

If by some miracle Labour comes to power in 2020, (Jeremy will be 71 by then) I dare say you can kiss goodbye to that famous Special Relationship.

signed
Disgusted Life-long Labour voter

 

[JackLuis]

Thanks, You may have heard of Bernie Sanders our leftist who is gaining supporters as we speak. He is the only one of our pol's who actually talks about doing something to make the world a little better. All the rest are pandering to what they hope is a base that will elect their pustular asses.

 

[oggbashan]

Jeremy Corbyn is that rarely sighted but often feared (by US voters) beast, a genuine socialist.

Whether he is electable as leader of a UK government is doubtful. But what he has achieved is massive - a major and substantial increase in the membership of the Labour Party. Only the SNP, and to a much smaller extent UKIP, have done as well in recruiting people who previously would never have considered joining a political party.

He has genuine democratic backing. Whether his backers are realistic in their ambitions? That's another question.

 

[Messier82]

I can't help feeling there's a story to tell about this dramatic increase in Labour Party membership, JCs elevation works a bit too nicely for the incumbent government...

 

[oggbashan]

I can't help feeling there's a story to tell about this dramatic increase in Labour Party membership, JCs elevation works a bit too nicely for the incumbent government...

There is a story about entryism - joining to vote for the wrong candidate to damage the Labour Party.

But that is minor compared with the massive numbers of people who believe that Jeremy Corbyn represents what they want - an alternative to consensus politics who will challenge the existing order. He has mobilised thousands of people who were previously unhappy with the centrist policies of Labour.

Some even admitted they had previously supported UKIP as a protest. But do not underestimate Jeremy Corbyn's support. Many of them are new to politics, enthusiastic, and ready to change the world.

Do they have realistic ambitions? Are Jeremy Corbyn's policies sensible? Could he lead Labour to victory?

Those questions will haunt Labour, and possibly tear it apart.