smoothg103rd
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I don't have one. But I think I might study.
What's your thoughts on religion?
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smoothg103rd
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I do know that I'll never be a Christian, if I was to get a religion.
smoothg103rd
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Idk what the hell that is. But it doesn't matter, because I'm not white.
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Religion is essentially a sincere, heartfelt belief in a God or spiritual force that operates in a manner that we could only reasonably describe as "supernatural." The most powerful "evidences" for these beliefs seem to be held by those who claim to have directly witnessed or been the object of those supernatural forces.
Thus, it could be fairly said that one does not typically "get" religion through the study of others' experiences as much as religion is far more likely to get YOU, and in a manner that is undeniably compelling.
Far be it from me to discourage anyone's spiritual quest, but given the already substantial pressures on your shoulders, I think your time would be better spent by studying the many other life altering nuts-and-bolts details which you need to put in place to get where you want to go.
Religion could provide a significant motivating force for that change, but only most likely if it resides deep within your core.
Thus, it could be fairly said that one does not typically "get" religion through the study of others' experiences as much as religion is far more likely to get YOU, and in a manner that is undeniably compelling.
Far be it from me to discourage anyone's spiritual quest, but given the already substantial pressures on your shoulders, I think your time would be better spent by studying the many other life altering nuts-and-bolts details which you need to put in place to get where you want to go.
Religion could provide a significant motivating force for that change, but only most likely if it resides deep within your core.
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I have a few quotes from one of my favorite authors that sums up my thought on religion and God pretty well.
The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by H.Sapiens is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of his creations, that he can be persuaded by their prayers, and becomes petulant if he does not receive this flattery. Yet this ridiculous notion, without one real shred of evidence to bolster it, has gone on to found one of the oldest, largest and least productive industries in history.
- Robert Heinlein
Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.
- Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything... just give him time to rationalize it.
- Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man. But it is a lovely work if you can stomach it.
- Robert Heinlein: Lazarus Long, Time enough for Love
and this one, from my signature:
"God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time." - Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett, "Good Omens"
The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by H.Sapiens is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of his creations, that he can be persuaded by their prayers, and becomes petulant if he does not receive this flattery. Yet this ridiculous notion, without one real shred of evidence to bolster it, has gone on to found one of the oldest, largest and least productive industries in history.
- Robert Heinlein
Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.
- Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything... just give him time to rationalize it.
- Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man. But it is a lovely work if you can stomach it.
- Robert Heinlein: Lazarus Long, Time enough for Love
and this one, from my signature:
"God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time." - Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett, "Good Omens"
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Beco
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Its all a fairy tale
smoothg103rd
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Church? I can't have belief in a forced religion.
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I gave it up for Lent.
smoothg103rd
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What's Lent?
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thør
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They can do a lot of networking at church.....
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Something about how you're supposed to suffer because some omnipotent being screwed up when it created everything then impregnated another man's wife to have its kid who it then let be murdered in a brutal fashion to correct the mistakes it made.
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I think he's more the Onanist type.
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Man seems to have an inherent drive to awe and spirituality.
The basic question is this:
Is God a perfect being on a plane of existence that we cannot access or comprehend and are we, then, just poor images of a higher state (Plato)?
or
Is God created by man's proclivity to think in terms of what if the human form, mind and spirit were perfected (Socrates)?
The former leads to religion, the latter to rational thought.
The basic question is this:
Is God a perfect being on a plane of existence that we cannot access or comprehend and are we, then, just poor images of a higher state (Plato)?
or
Is God created by man's proclivity to think in terms of what if the human form, mind and spirit were perfected (Socrates)?
The former leads to religion, the latter to rational thought.
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Not Dialectic Materialism?
No. 10 syllables. Way too many.
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Nailed it.
I've got nothing against religion. I just don't agree with much of the common doctrine of most Christian faiths.
Keep in mind that Faith and religion are nothing at all alike. Religion is following a doctrine based on some long dead man's interpretation of various passages in the bible (or Koran or Dianetics or Atlas Shrugged). Faith is a core belief in a guiding power.
I have trouble believing in Fake Invisible Guy In The Sky and that an all-knowing, all-powerful being would have to resort to filicide in order to engender more devout worship.
Couldn't this being simply appear in such a magnificent manner that we mere mortals would worship in awe? You know, like a movie star guest appearance at the Saturday Ruritans meeting?
And what the fuck is this shite about his own chosen people refusing to believe the divinity of his own son anyway? Can't he even impress his wonder on his faithful?
The basic tenet of my faith is Wormshite. Because that's the universal truth of the human condition. We all end up there no matter how important we are. That's why we created God, Heaven and Hell - because Wormshite isn't the future we hoped for when we completed 22 years of education and started our own families.
Keep in mind that Faith and religion are nothing at all alike. Religion is following a doctrine based on some long dead man's interpretation of various passages in the bible (or Koran or Dianetics or Atlas Shrugged). Faith is a core belief in a guiding power.
I have trouble believing in Fake Invisible Guy In The Sky and that an all-knowing, all-powerful being would have to resort to filicide in order to engender more devout worship.
Couldn't this being simply appear in such a magnificent manner that we mere mortals would worship in awe? You know, like a movie star guest appearance at the Saturday Ruritans meeting?
And what the fuck is this shite about his own chosen people refusing to believe the divinity of his own son anyway? Can't he even impress his wonder on his faithful?
The basic tenet of my faith is Wormshite. Because that's the universal truth of the human condition. We all end up there no matter how important we are. That's why we created God, Heaven and Hell - because Wormshite isn't the future we hoped for when we completed 22 years of education and started our own families.
