White people who did this kind of thing would probably be charged wth incitement

[Boxlicker101]

But this guy gets away with it.

http://unfilteredpatriot.com/farrakhan-calls-for-murder-rise-up-and-kill/

And some of the posters here apparently agree with him.

 

[Publius1990]

But this guy gets away with it.

http://unfilteredpatriot.com/farrakhan-calls-for-murder-rise-up-and-kill/

And some of the posters here apparently agree with him.

You're right Boxlicker. For some there is a perverse double standard. Unfortunately the black community does not have a leader like Martin Luther King, a rational, peace advocating person that could bridge social divides. Instead, there is Farrakhan and race baiters like Sharpton.

 

[phrodeau]

First Amendment sux.

 

[Boxlicker101]

First Amendment sux.

There are limits to the First Amendment, and this seems to exceed them:
http://freespeechdebate.com/en/case/the-brandenburg-test-for-incitement-to-violence/

Here is more on the same case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You're right Boxlicker. For some there is a perverse double standard. Unfortunately the black community does not have a leader like Martin Luther King, a rational, peace advocating person that could bridge social divides. Instead, there is Farrakhan and race baiters like Sharpton.

http://media.tumblr.com/94c3fa480aa7e94194b8f515152993b2/tumblr_inline_n05nm1HDel1srurt1.gif

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If it were that binary-thinking simple to just have a magical unicorn for ANY race or ANY group of people in this privileged-first society, we'd have a world government by now signing peace treaties with the Klingons and Romulans.

By the way, speaking of "bridging social divides," please don't let me have to teach you HOW Martin Luther King ended up, or WHY he got that way. Because that's the road y'all never ever want to go down.

 

[jdc38]

Posted in wrong board.

 

[Publius1990]

http://media.tumblr.com/94c3fa480aa7e94194b8f515152993b2/tumblr_inline_n05nm1HDel1srurt1.gif

http://33.media.tumblr.com/b7e079a17671239142c6b98132a3db64/tumblr_nnemkuKeOe1sqia6ao1_250.gif

If it were that binary-thinking simple to just have a magical unicorn for ANY race or ANY group of people in this privileged-first society, we'd have a world government by now signing peace treaties with the Klingons and Romulans.

By the way, speaking of "bridging social divides," please don't let me have to teach you HOW Martin Luther King ended up, or WHY he got that way. Because that's the road y'all never ever want to go down.

Dude really? I mean this is a fucking bulletin board on the Internet. I think we all get that the issues discussed here are far more complex. I don't have the time or inclination to post a doctoral dissertation.

The point of my post was to draw a distinction between men like Martin Luther King versus those like Farrakhan or Sharpton. What? Are they your heroes?

And I don't need you to lecture me on anything. Yes, I know how Martin Luther King ended up. News flash, he was assassinated. How he "ended up" (you couldn't just say assassinated) does not change the point I was making. He was a true leader versus a hate monger.

Was it too nuanced for you?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Well the part where you think there are hate mongers leading the black community is a bit retarded yes.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Well the part where you think there are hate mongers leading the black community is a bit retarded yes.

There are, but I'm sure they are strictly a small percentage. Just as the KKK represents only a miniscule percentage of white people. But both groups are given credence, by the news media, far beyond their numbers.

 

[Sean Renaud]

There are, but I'm sure they are strictly a small percentage. Just as the KKK represents only a miniscule percentage of white people. But both groups are given credence, by the news media, far beyond their numbers.

Honestly I don't even think of the KKK like at all. If you're numbers are low enough that you can be safely utterly ignored then you only exist in the most technical sense. I mean if we look hard enough I'm sure we could find folks who think we should get the south west back to Mexico.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Dude really? I mean this is a fucking bulletin board on the Internet. I think we all get that the issues discussed here are far more complex. I don't have the time or inclination to post a doctoral dissertation.

That's not my problem, Pub.

You wrote something that's supposed to be taken as a facet of truth and verity about the black community, but it was hilariously simplistic and completely, horribly wrong if not merely outdated in being the personal opinion and viewpoint of someone who is not a black person born in America.

It's a lazy sell, Pub. Explain further if you want to be understood better. Or don't, if you really don't care. Cards will be pulled when in the wrong either way.

The point of my post was to draw a distinction between men like Martin Luther King versus those like Farrakhan or Sharpton. What? Are they your heroes?

Where you messed up was thinking that any of them were polar opposites of each other and that any of them were the end-all-be-all Holy Grails for a community.

You don't know any other names besides those, do you?

http://38.media.tumblr.com/0946e0de23df59b59311e235ab6565b7/tumblr_niuv84pOpN1rtcb3ho1_500.gif

And I don't need you to lecture me on anything. Yes, I know how Martin Luther King ended up. News flash, he was assassinated. How he "ended up" (you couldn't just say assassinated) does not change the point I was making. He was a true leader versus a hate monger.

No, the mistake you made is making him to be a unicorn that's an easy-peasy Black People Leader Solution© to follow in the here and now versus whomever it is you think is wrong.

Who assassinated him?

Why was he assassinated?

If this subject is more than just a blurt on an internet forum for you, connect the dots you missed on the menu and bring a better platter to the table.

Was it too nuanced for you?

You never threw down any nuance to begin with. Trust me on that.

Well the part where you think there are hate mongers leading the black community is a bit retarded yes.

To say the least.

There's a chasm of cognitive dissonance between who certain white people view as actual "hate mongers" versus those making pro-Black noise that they "don't like."

Guess who gets a bullet either way?

http://38.media.tumblr.com/1926094dd2c4cc272d3f4bf1e5fd82db/tumblr_nbipn2Gc971rrx588o1_500.gif

 

[Boxlicker101]

Honestly I don't even think of the KKK like at all. If you're numbers are low enough that you can be safely utterly ignored then you only exist in the most technical sense. I mean if we look hard enough I'm sure we could find folks who think we should get the south west back to Mexico.

They are called La Raza.

 

[Publius1990]

That's not my problem, Pub.

I never implied it was your problem. I'm sure you have many problems and I wouldn't want to impose another.

You wrote something that's supposed to be taken as a facet of truth and verity about the black community, but it was hilariously simplistic and completely, horribly wrong if not merely outdated in being the personal opinion and viewpoint of someone who is not a black person born in America.

Interesting paragraph. I never claimed it was supposed to be "a facet of truth and verity." Why do you assume it was supposed to be that? In fact, as you say in the last sentence it was opinion. 99.99% of what it said on this board is opinion. And how do you know I'm not black. Excuse me, have we met?

It's a lazy sell, Pub. Explain further if you want to be understood better. Or don't, if you really don't care. Cards will be pulled when in the wrong either way.

Ok, I'll explain exactly the premises of my original post. 1) MLK was a great leader in the black community. 2) the black community needs more leaders like him, and 3) Farrakhan and Sharpton are two examples of poor leaders.

All the shit about simple solutions and unicorns, and me thinking there is an easy solution is you reading more into the post than was said. I never said or implied any of those ideas. Rather than read into and take issue with what I didn't say, why don't you specifically comment on what I did say. So with premise 1, you don't think MLK was a good leader and bridged divides ( yeah I know he got assassinated) but one deranged motherfucker doesn't mean he didn't accomplish very good things.

You like Farrakhan and Sharpton. Fine, speak up and say why you think I am wrong in saying they are hate mongers and race baiters.

Where you messed up was thinking that any of them were polar opposites of each other and that any of them were the end-all-be-all Holy Grails for a community.

No, I'll call you on that one. MLK and Farrakhan and Sharpton are opposites. Just read their works

You don't know any other names besides those, do you?

Yeah, I'll give you another name. That piece of shit Mayor Rawlings-Blake. Another poor black leader. Encouraging folks to have room to destroy - their own neighborhood

No, the mistake you made is making him to be a unicorn that's an easy-peasy Black People Leader Solution© to follow in the here and now versus whomever it is you think is wrong.

I never made MLK to be a unicorn or an easy-peasy solution. Once again that is you reading words into my post. I simply stated that the black community could use more leaders like him. Never said it fixes everything but it does start with good leaders.

If this subject is more than just a blurt on an internet forum for you, connect the dots you missed on the menu and bring a better platter to the table.

I don't mean to burst your bubble but I don't have to try harder for you. If you don't like what I say move on. There are plenty of other posts you can parse and reply with your large and bolded font.

There's a chasm of cognitive dissonance between who certain white people view as actual "hate mongers" versus those making pro-Black noise that they "don't like."

Read the OPs post again and the article he referenced. That's not hate mongering? Ok, I respect your opinion. But it is to me.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

What in the...

http://38.media.tumblr.com/8e1900e70bcd5a3e01d2decbc055767e/tumblr_mjiyyvxUzB1ql5yr7o1_400.gif

Fix your craptastic quoting if you want me to reply to points. As much as you don't have time or inclinations for dissertations, I don't have likewise wherewithal to quote then reverse-engineer your strands from mine and re-parse that for clarity. Even a Times editor wouldn't deal with all that grey mass, guy.

Having said that, if you read that as a case of "moving on" and this thread sinks to the bottom of the river from neglect or indifference and we miss our bonding window of opportunity, never fear...there'll be lots of other "black related" threads like this from the OP and/or other likewise schmucks. Trust me.

 

[Publius1990]

What in the...

Fix your craptastic quoting if you want me to reply to points. As much as you don't have time or inclinations for dissertations, I don't have likewise wherewithal to quote then reverse-engineer your strands from mine and re-parse that for clarity. Even a Times editor wouldn't deal with all that grey mass, guy.

Having said that, if you read that as a case of "moving on" and this thread sinks to the bottom of the river from neglect or indifference and we miss our bonding window of opportunity, never fear...there'll be lots of other "black related" threads like this from the OP and/or other likewise schmucks. Trust me.

You mad bro?

I read it as moving on. Looking forward to crossing paths in other "black related" threads. See you then.

- Publius

 

[phrodeau]

You mad bro?

I read it as moving on. Looking forward to crossing paths in other "black related" threads. See you then.

- Publius

Your first 26 posts don't do you much credit. You should study the options and styles available, and try the preview for practice. You'll thank me later.

 

[Publius1990]

Your first 26 posts don't do you much credit. You should study the options and styles available, and try the preview for practice. You'll thank me later.

Thanks for the unsolicited advice. Why don't you email me the style guide and I'll study it post haste.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You mad bro?

I read it as moving on. Looking forward to crossing paths in other "black related" threads. See you then.

- Publius

Hey, this summer is much too sexy for moi to be mad at someone else getting blackness wrong! I'm just helping out.

Seriously, next time you reply to someone who has more than a few individual points to address and you plan on responding to them one by one, the considerate form to avoid a wall of grey blob is to break the quotes up in their own quote containers. This makes it more pleasant to read and easier on the eyes to follow along, but the best reason is because when (or if) they answer you in return, all they need to do is hit reply, which will isolate just what you wrote. Which makes a back-and-forth conversation all the mo' betta. Not only that, it makes it completely idiot proof for others reading it, in case they wanna chime in as well.

 

[dan_c00000]

There are limits to the First Amendment, and this seems to exceed them: These Republicans Aren't Sure What Motivated A White Guy To Kill 9 Black Churchgoers, But It Wasn't Racism

It sure does.

 

[Boxlicker101]

It sure does.

I have no idea what this post has to do with this thread. Farrakhan and others of his ilk get away with inciting to murder and trying to start a race war. Roof apparently murdered nine black people, got caught and will probably do life in prison, which he deserves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting

If Roof had advocated mass murder of black people that would have been a different matter.

 

[dan_c00000]

Roof advocated mass murder of black people Hate-filled manifesto supposedly by alleged Charleston shooter Dylann Roof declares he had ‘no choice’ but to kill black churchgoers

He did advocate that AND he followed through on it. I'm sorry you're both wrong and racist but that's just reality, bro.

 

[Boxlicker101]

He did advocate that AND he followed through on it. I'm sorry you're both wrong and racist but that's just reality, bro.

What I m saying, and what I said in the opening post, is if he had advocated hate and murder and not acted on it, he would still be in prison where he belongs. Somebody like Farrakhan, however, can get away with the most provocative of hate speech.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I have no idea what this post has to do with this thread. Farrakhan and others of his ilk get away with inciting to murder and trying to start a race war. Roof apparently murdered nine black people, got caught and will probably do life in prison, which he deserves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting

If Roof had advocated mass murder of black people that would have been a different matter.

Nobody is trying to start a race war. Not Sharpton, not Farrakhan, nobody of any prominance is trying to do anything of the sort.

Don't really give a shit about Roof.

What I m saying, and what I said in the opening post, is if he had advocated hate and murder and not acted on it, he would still be in prison where he belongs. Somebody like Farrakhan, however, can get away with the most provocative of hate speech.

The dude gets shat on for breathing. Get away with ? Please.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

What I m saying, and what I said in the opening post, is if he had advocated hate and murder and not acted on it, he would still be in prison where he belongs. Somebody like Farrakhan, however, can get away with the most provocative of hate speech.

Unless you have private, exclusive space you personally own and can set specific rules to, it's all free speech underneath the Great Apple Pie American Freedom umbrella of the Constitution until you act upon it. There's technically no double standard going on here until the police get to be extrajudicial arbiters. Then people like you get all the fucking cookies.

That's why some white people here on this very site just loooooove talking shit on black people any nilly-willy way they wanna. Let's just get alllll that frustration and micro-aggro out of your system, where it's safe and sound and nobody's gonna bash your head in with a lead pipe.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Nobody is trying to start a race war. Not Sharpton, not Farrakhan, nobody of any prominance is trying to do anything of the sort.

The dude gets shat on for breathing. Get away with ? Please.

Did you read the link about Farrakhan in the OP? If that isn't advocating a race war by a person of prominence, then what is?