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Ribisi appears to be one of those longtime low-level Scientology drones who haven't been read into all the really weird shit.

How long people like that are going to be able to continue clinging to ignorance will be interesting to see. The high-level "secrets" about Xenu and body-thetans and such getting outed in the public sphere, and more importantly the cult's weird-assed micro-totalitarian practices going public along with them, seems to have doomed the Church to decline as the semi-official celebrity pseudo-religion... but with all of its members carefully trained to reject inquiry and keep their ignorance intact, it could linger for a good long while yet.

(There's still a fair number of celebrity Scientologists I wouldn't have suspected -- Beck? But a lot of the really surprising ones turn out to have been raised in the Church.)
 
CyranoJ said:
Ribisi appears to be one of those longtime low-level Scientology drones who haven't been read into all the really weird shit.

How long people like that are going to be able to continue clinging to ignorance will be interesting to see. The high-level "secrets" about Xenu and body-thetans and such getting outed in the public sphere, and more importantly the cult's weird-assed micro-totalitarian practices going public along with them, seems to have doomed the Church to decline as the semi-official celebrity pseudo-religion... but with all of its members carefully trained to reject inquiry and keep their ignorance intact, it could linger for a good long while yet.

(There's still a fair number of celebrity Scientologists I wouldn't have suspected -- Beck? But a lot of the really surprising ones turn out to have been raised in the Church.)
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And Beck is married to Ribisi's sister.
 
CyranoJ said:
Oh yes.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/RobertDobolinaEsq/tumblr_mkwkx68be11qzprlbo1_500.gif

One of my favourite scenes in any movie. Someone posted the translated version which is also pretty great. ("Cut cut cut cut cut! God, I'm begging you.")
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pointless said:
i liked it, but i haven't watch it in years and have no real plans to. thanks for the butt, though.
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Laurel said:
Yes!

The movie is very interesting on many many levels.
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It's not a bad movie as an adequately-directed movie doing adequately-directed movie things. It looks good. I went to see it when it came out and initially thought it was alright.

When I watched it a second time much later outside of all the hype that had surrounded it, though...nnnnghhh... After reading some critical discourse over this film that couldn't understand the insane amount of praise it was given, I had to agree with most of them. The gist of it is that Translation is a weakly written, would-be French New Wave character film that uses Japan to say very little about Japan when it could've said many things outside of exaggerated stereotypes that we hadn't heard before.

Let's put it this way. There's a reason why Sofia Coppola isn't doing movies anymore. She couldn't do another Virgin Suicides and needed another "in" thing to keep her momentum going. You can only get away with using a foreign country in Asia as an easy background prop once in your career and 2003 was around the best time during the Hipster Age to do it in. This movie would very likely tank if it were made now.
 
In the midnight hour she cried- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell she cried- "more, more, more"
In the midnight hour babe- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell- "more, more, more"
More, more, more.​
 
23% of men said bacon was their favorite fragrance.

Take note, ladies. A little bacon grease #5 behind the ear should do the trick.
 
CyranoJ said:
Ribisi appears to be one of those longtime low-level Scientology drones who haven't been read into all the really weird shit.

How long people like that are going to be able to continue clinging to ignorance will be interesting to see. The high-level "secrets" about Xenu and body-thetans and such getting outed in the public sphere, and more importantly the cult's weird-assed micro-totalitarian practices going public along with them, seems to have doomed the Church to decline as the semi-official celebrity pseudo-religion... but with all of its members carefully trained to reject inquiry and keep their ignorance intact, it could linger for a good long while yet.

(There's still a fair number of celebrity Scientologists I wouldn't have suspected -- Beck? But a lot of the really surprising ones turn out to have been raised in the Church.)
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Billy fucking Sheehan? :(
 
pointless said:
i like how giovanni ribisi is a worthless asshole.

also, he plays one in that movie.
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I think I read that since LiT is based on Sofia Coppola's life, then ScarJo = Sofia, Giovanni = Spike Jonze (her ex), and Anna Faris = Cameron Diaz.

And some people claim that "Her" is Spike Jonze's revenge on Coppola for LiT:
http://clarissaexplainsfuckall.com/2014/03/13/spike-jonzes-her-a-lost-in-translation-revenge-movie/

IrezumiKiss said:
It's not a bad movie as an adequately-directed movie doing adequately-directed movie things. It looks good. I went to see it when it came out and initially thought it was alright.

When I watched it a second time much later outside of all the hype that had surrounded it, though...nnnnghhh... After reading some critical discourse over this film that couldn't understand the insane amount of praise it was given, I had to agree with most of them. The gist of it is that Translation is a weakly written, would-be French New Wave character film that uses Japan to say very little about Japan when it could've said many things outside of exaggerated stereotypes that we hadn't heard before.

Let's put it this way. There's a reason why Sofia Coppola isn't doing movies anymore. She couldn't do another Virgin Suicides and needed another "in" thing to keep her momentum going. You can only get away with using a foreign country in Asia as an easy background prop once in your career and 2003 was around the best time during the Hipster Age to do it in. This movie would very likely tank if it were made now.
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All her movies are based on her experiences/perspective as an exceptionally privileged and connected young woman. She's surrounded by/related to amazing minds and talents, but at the end of the day I have trouble connecting to her films. Bill Murray carries LiT. He was fun to watch. But I just don't empathize with pretty young rich ScarJo - traveling the globe, oh so lonely in 5-star hotel rooms. It's just not my life. I'm not saying that you have to literally be living the same life as the director to enjoy their movies. I'm saying that her stuff just somehow doesn't (to me) touch on life as I know it. I can watch Francois Ozon movies and fully empathize & enjoy, even though I'm not a gay Frenchman.

TBH I have the same problem with Lena Dunham. I watched "Tiny Furniture" - it was quirky and watch-worthy, but the movie is just full of horrible characters, people who were not only empathetic but plain repellent. It's a nightmare of vapid entitled idiots. From what little I've seen of "Girls", I just know watching it would give me a headache. It's not because Dunham's inept at communicating how she see things. Quite the opposite - she does it very well. It's just that how she sees things is so completely off from how I see things. I don't mean to slight her because she's just doing what artists do - sharing the view from her perch - but wow, the vapid entitlement.
 
Yanno, I think Lost In Translation was the only Sophia Coppola flick I've ever seen and I didn't love it. I prefer her dad's work.


Minus GF3, of course. That pile of shit should never have been made.
 
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